CHC High Commission of Depression & Mental Disorder

[mrashid123]

IMO rather than being angry at the CIC, the anger and frustration should be focused on those who commit fraud.

It is ultimately the higher instances of fraud that lead to a longer wait for everyone.

higher instances of fraud DOES NOT justify CIC for doubling tripling wait times.... they need to train their officers better to detect the fraud.... n increase their numbers.... dispatch more officers to the visa offices if they're having a difficult time processing all the applications.... doubling tripling the wait times only hurts us genuine cases.... n I've seen too many relationships break up due to these ridiculous wait times!

 

[gsize]

higher instances of fraud DOES NOT justify CIC for doubling tripling wait times.... they need to train their officers better to detect the fraud.... n increase their numbers.... dispatch more officers to the visa offices if they're having a difficult time processing all the applications.... doubling tripling the wait times only hurts us genuine cases.... n I've seen too many relationships break up due to these ridiculous wait times!

agreed 100%

We can do better ! Im so disappointed to see wait times lasting many years . Things wont change until there is the political will to do so !

 

[jomz]

Another point to note is that Canada is the only "Developed" country in the World that has these ludicrous wait times for spousal sponsorship applications from wut I know.... US/ UK/ Australia/ most of Europe all have processing times less than a year.... If the goal of CIC is family reunification they have completely and utterly failed at this goal!.... n this is completely UNACCEPTABLE!

Ok, so lets say they reduce wait times but introduce minimum income requirements of $40,000 p.annum to sponsor a spouse, $48,000 to sponsor a spouse and 1 child. What would the reaction be ?

 

[gsize]

Ok, so lets say they reduce wait times but introduce minimum income requirements of $40,000 p.annum to sponsor a spouse, $48,000 to sponsor a spouse and 1 child. What would the reaction be ?

this would also be unacceptable. We are supposed to be a compassionate country. We are also supposed to be a 1st world country. Why not hire more staff and add it to the landing fee !

 

[jomz]

this would also be unacceptable. We are supposed to be a compassionate country. We are also supposed to be a 1st world country. Why not hire more staff and add it to the landing fee !

Well there you go. And this is one of the requirements to sponsor a spouse in the UK, the 2nd one is you have to show adeqate housing for you and your spouse. Meaning as a sponsor you cannot be just living in a 1 room rental. You have to prove that you are financially established.

mrashid123 compares CIC's wait times to other countries but does not compare the requirments which vary greatly.

 

[gsize]

Well there you go. And this is one of the requirements to sponsor a spouse in the UK, the 2nd one is you have to show adeqate housing for you and your spouse. Meaning as a sponsor you cannot be just living in a 1 room rental. You have to prove that you are financially established.

interesting, however we need immigration as we are a big country with a small population. England is a small country with a relatively large population. Not sure if its fair to compare nonetheless, interesting

 

[keesio]

this would also be unacceptable. We are supposed to be a compassionate country. We are also supposed to be a 1st world country. Why not hire more staff and add it to the landing fee !

Note that some delays are completely out of CIC's control. For example, even though applicants need to get a police clearance letter for countries they lived in longer than 6 months, CIC will also do further background checks on their own. That means they will contact the country and ask for their records. Some countries provide this information in a pretty timely fashion (like the USA (with all the info sharing they have set up with Canada) and I hear India can be quite good (though very inconsistent)). Some countries are very hard to get info from (Russia, I hear, can be notoriously difficult. So can Pakistan).

With that said, 32 months sounds insane to me - no matter what the excuse. I stick by my 18 months timeline as being acceptable, even for ones with some red flags.

 

[gsize]

Note that some delays are completely out of CIC's control. For example, even though applicants need to get a police clearance letter for countries they lived in longer than 6 months, CIC will also do further background checks on their own. That means they will contact the country and ask for their records. Some countries provide this information in a pretty timely fashion (like the USA (with all the info sharing they have set up with Canada) and I hear India can be quite good (though very inconsistent)). Some countries are very hard to get info from (Russia, I hear, can be notoriously difficult. So can Pakistan).

With that said, 32 months sounds insane to me - no matter what the excuse. I stick by my 18 months timeline as being acceptable, even for ones with some red flags.

anything under 2 years is acceptable. I had to wait 5 years with appeal times in Toronto 2 1/2 years and Montreal at 3 years . I love some of the posts when people say they are tired of waiting so long and I see they are only at 1 year or so.

Or better yet, allow applicant to enter Canada to be with their loved one (if visa required) After all, I don't think people will jepordize their PR

 

[jomz]

interesting, however we need immigration as we are a big country with a small population. England is a small country with a relatively large population. Not sure if its fair to compare nonetheless, interesting

Yes it is interesting, and another point is that UK processes approx 4000 applicants from Pakistan yearly, and Canada 10,000-12,000 yearly.
I think the wait times for some VO's are rediculous, Pakistan being one of them, and Singapore following closely at 30 months. It is true that no one should wait this long, unless of owns fault by not provided CIC with the required information.

Now with respect to the OP, her case does not seem like the straightforward family class sponsorship. She is the mother of the kids that are abroad, why? She escaped as a refugee leaving her kids behind? Probably the case. Was there misrepresentation of not declaring husband and kids? Maybe. I think her case is under family class H & C.

 

[gsize]

Yes it is interesting, and another point is that UK processes approx 4000 applicants from Pakistan yearly, and Canada 10,000-12,000 yearly.
I think the wait times for some VO's are rediculous, Pakistan being one of them, and Singapore following closely at 30 months. It is true that no one should wait this long, unless of owns fault by not provided CIC with the required information.

Now with respect to the OP, her case does not seem like the straightforward family class sponsorship. She is the mother of the kids that are abroad, why? She escaped as a refugee leaving her kids behind? Probably the case. Was there misrepresentation of not declaring husband and kids? Maybe. I think her case is under family class H & C.

and if someones case is denied and appealed, it will add several more years !

 

[uskyoot]

Ok, so lets say they reduce wait times but introduce minimum income requirements of $40,000 p.annum to sponsor a spouse, $48,000 to sponsor a spouse and 1 child. What would the reaction be ?

I work for an immigration lawyer in the U.S. and a minimum income is required to sponsor family. We've had many cases where the sponsor does not meet the requirement and has to try and find a co-sponsor. This can be very difficult as the co-sponsor must include their family size in figuring out the income required. We have clients that are not able to sponsor their family as the do not meet this financial requirement...

 

[MilesAway]

It is an absurdly long wait time, I agree. My VO has an 18 month wait time, so I'll be going through that as well.

A note though, that while the OP states that it is a family case, it isn't a typical family sponsorship. She came as a refugee and is now sponsoring her spouse and children, which I believe is quite a different process from a PR or citizen sponsoring their spouse. I do not know how they differ, but based on other posts here, they do.

 

[Wajea]

I appreciate your all sympathies .
Wajea

 

[Calgary_Man]

Here my question for you...
Say you are on WP and you get married, you spouse can arrive at the same time, get WP and u both and live together..and apply for immigration.
Sounds wierd to apply after you get PR here after struggling and then wait for your spouse for the same scenario yet u are resident..
Wierd LAWS!
Also, in USA, spouse can go along after marriage...why not in Canada?
Few crooks have made it harder for rest of us :-[ :-[

 

[steerpike]

Here my question for you...
Say you are on WP and you get married, you spouse can arrive at the same time, get WP and u both and live together..and apply for immigration.
Sounds wierd to apply after you get PR here after struggling and then wait for your spouse for the same scenario yet u are resident..
Wierd LAWS!
Also, in USA, spouse can go along after marriage...why not in Canada?
Few crooks have made it harder for rest of us :-[ :-[

Exactly, foreigners who come on a WP can bring their wives immediately But Canadian citizens have to wait years. Its ridiculous. Do they WP foreigners even need to go through a lengthy process of proving their wife is really their wife? do they submit all their wedding phoptos and most intimate love letters? I doubt it.

For straightforward cases it should take no longer than 6 months from date of application sent to reciecing the PR card.

As for the person who commented that it takes so long because some countries do slow background checks, i dont believe that is the cause of most delays in the system. But if it is, then a competant VO would recognise that and start working on getting that police clearance right away. I know in my job if i come across something that may take a long time and delay the rest of the project, i get started on that immediately. Its just basic job competance. I wonder why we don't expect that from public servents?