CHC High Commission of Depression & Mental Disorder

[Wajea]

The Following Procedures has been done with our Family Case ( In Islamabad ) , As Wife i Sponsored Husband & Three Children ( less than 22 age )

1 2008 Application Filled in E-Case ( We started processing your application on January 20, 2008 )
2 2009 DNA TEST Done,
3 2009-2012 Background Check ( Security Check ) Done,
4 2013 Medical Check Done,
5 2013 Interview Done,
( Medicals Expired in March 2014 )
6 Passport request for Visa Not yet Done,
7 Passport sent for Visa Not Yet Done,
8 Passport received not yet Done,

 

[mrashid123]

Absolutely, it is your choice. I disagreed that her nationality ALONE should be included in her petition. I stated her nationality is NOT the only to suffer these same waits and suffer without their families. My original point is long since lost in this thread because others are busy trying to deconstruct what I've stated while attempting to peg me as someone who doesn't care. The point is quite opposite. I think the OP's petition would have a fantastic chance to perhaps reach the desk of someone who COULD change all of this had she taken the time to not EXCLUDE all of those who are not Pakistani. If you include EVERYONE who suffers these long wait times then the voice is much louder and will be heard.

I was disagreeing with u up until I saw this post.....lol..... I completely agree with u that the voice would b much louder if everyone was included n not one specific nationality.... n since its been posted as a separate thread it would make sense for it to not b nationality specific...

Wajea... just a suggestion but maybe if ur petition cud b more inclusive it would get more signatures...

I don't blame Wajea for feeling like she's being singled out because of her nationality n honestly, being the same nationality, I have also felt the same way.... the fact that Pakistan is the only country at 32 months makes one wonder if there is a reason behind it.... Chris Alexander's recent comments about Pakistan have only added to this sentiment....

Another point to note is that Canada is the only "Developed" country in the World that has these ludicrous wait times for spousal sponsorship applications from wut I know.... US/ UK/ Australia/ most of Europe all have processing times less than a year.... If the goal of CIC is family reunification they have completely and utterly failed at this goal!.... n this is completely UNACCEPTABLE!

 

[SenoritaBella]

It is tempting to think our struggles are the 'same' just because we go through the "same" immigration process but they are not and that does not lessen anyone's struggles either or make one "worse" than the other - it is felt individually by the person wearing those shoes.

I am not Pakistani, so I can not possibly understand what it's like to go through this process being one. Perhaps the OP focused on her home country because fellow countrymen will understand all too well what it's like. That is ok, as anyone can also create a petition for all immigrants if they so wish.

There are many realities of life in Pakistan, particularly for women. People from certain parts of the world have to make tough choices everyday which some of us would not imagine. So while some of us have wonderful suggestions about people moving back to their spouses' home country, etc, we need to be mindful the reality is much different.

@ Wajea... my heart breaks for you. So sorry you have had to wait this long...6 yrs is just mind boggling. Are you able to get your GCSM notes to see where things are at and if there are any issues delaying things? I know this is not much comfort, but please continue to hang in there and know that this process will be completed someday. My thoughts and prayers are with you. *hugs*

 

[mikeymyke]

Hey, Singapore VO has the second longest processing time in the world, Vietnamese family class applications make the majority of the files there, it went from 12 months processing to 30 months in 5 years. Just like Pakistan, Vietnam is also a high marriage fraud country, both countries require biometrics to enter the country as visitors.

We really only have the countrymen to blame for the long processing times, because if they just follow the rules and not make bogus refugee claims, MOC's, everyone else would have better processing times. I don't complain about the times, rather I just try to submit the best possible application I can give, so I can significantly shorten the processing time. And FYI, people would not get anywhere close to the 30 or 32 months processing time if their application wasn't full of red flags, missing documents, etc.

 

[CdnandTrini]

Ridiculous. By that logic they could make everyone wait 10 years. Or 20 years. Or 100 years. Canadian citizens have the right to marry whoever they wish. While it may be necessary to put some restrictions on who is given a PR (criminals, cases of fraud, etc) they should only be denied if they can show some real reason for denying it.

Regardless of that, the applications should always be processed in a reasonable time-frame. Even MASS MURDERERS are guaranteed a speedily trial, but when it comes to simply looking at a police cert, marriage cert, and a few other documents, suddenly its acceptable for the government to take half a decade? Why?

Sponsors pay the full cost of the application process, Canadian tax-payers are not disadvantaged, there is ZERO excuse why it should take so long.

Because of the babyboom the demographics are skewed in Canad and the birthrate is too low to support a healthy economy and society.

From a purely selfish point of view, it is in Canadas best interest to have immigration (especially of younger people who will be starting families).

Every time CIC drags the process along for no reason they are harming Canadians and Canada itself.

+1 & EVEN MORE "WELL SAID"

 

[steerpike]

Steerpike you said You show me where I said that you don't have the right to marry someone of another nationality and sponsor them to come to Canada. I said to be granted a PR visa is a PRIVILEDGE, not a right. I said nothing about the CHOICES you make in whom you marry. Only that you should be prepared to live with the consequences of YOUR actions. Nobody but you is responsible for you.

I made half a dozen points and you only responded to one. I guess you agree with the other points and have changed your view. Well done.

 

[CdnandTrini]

Again, you are all assuming that I don't sympathize with the OP's statement. I never said I did not. I understand and I sympathize. I have also undergone the same trials as everyone else immigrating to another country.

Immigrating from the US to Canada in a year or less does not in my humble opinion equal the "same trials as everyone else". While you may be overall sympathetic unless you have 3 children and a spouse that likely cannot visit and you have been separated from them for such a long time, then your trials may not be quite as harsh as the OP's. And unless she is independently wealthy, being a woman from her part of the world is not a trial I would wish upon anyone, in addition to the stress of immigration. Praying for her to have a positive outcome soon.

 

[hazamc]

I strongly disagree. It is completely unfair that a few people have so much power over so many people's lives. It is people's CHILDREN. It is people's FAMILY. The "it is a privilege and not a right" sentence drives me crazy! Canadian citizens who fall in love with people from other countries are in complete disadvantage... and last time I checked they are free to marry and fall in love with whomever they want. This person has been waiting since 2008! I'm sure if they knew that the process would take this long, their choices would've been different. And I'm pretty sure some people's "choices" are based on their lives being in danger every day living in the country they come from. "Choices" is a matter of perspective.

+1

 

[SenoritaBella]

Well said!

Immigrating from the US to Canada in a year or less does not in my humble opinion equal the "same trials as everyone else". While you may be overall sympathetic unless you have 3 children and a spouse that likely cannot visit and you have been separated from them for such a long time, then your trials may not be quite as harsh as the OP's. And unless she is independently wealthy, being a woman from her part of the world is not a trial I would wish upon anyone, in addition to the stress of immigration. Praying for her to have a positive outcome soon.

 

[Becki567]

IMO rather than being angry at the CIC, the anger and frustration should be focused on those who commit fraud.

It is ultimately the higher instances of fraud that lead to a longer wait for everyone.

 

[Alurra71]

I made half a dozen points and you only responded to one. I guess you agree with the other points and have changed your view. Well done.

I neither agreed nor disagreed nor had a different view of the other statements you made, they had nothing to do with anything that I had said, but OK.

 

[Alurra71]

Immigrating from the US to Canada in a year or less does not in my humble opinion equal the "same trials as everyone else". While you may be overall sympathetic unless you have 3 children and a spouse that likely cannot visit and you have been separated from them for such a long time, then your trials may not be quite as harsh as the OP's. And unless she is independently wealthy, being a woman from her part of the world is not a trial I would wish upon anyone, in addition to the stress of immigration. Praying for her to have a positive outcome soon.

Truly classy.

Yes, I have one of those "MAGIC" Pr's. The ones that just appear when you wish hard enough. Doesn't require any paperwork, evidence or waiting, you just wish really really hard.

 

[keesio]

Truly classy.

Indeed.

CdnandTrini - You are very helpful on this board like Alurra71. So I'm a bit disappointed you would take a shot like that.

In any case I suppose your opinion is the flip side of Soleil2020, who I would guess you also have minimal sympathy for. It would be amusing to get her 2 cents in but then again this thread would devolve to a flame war
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/devastated-at-how-long-its-taking-over-4-months-since-passport-request-t180630.0.html

 

[CdnandTrini]

Indeed.

CdnandTrini - You are very helpful on this board like Alurra71. So I'm a bit disappointed you would take a shot like that.

In any case I suppose your opinion is the flip side of Soleil2020, who I would guess you also have minimal sympathy for. It would be amusing to get her 2 cents in but then again this thread would devolve to a flame war
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/devastated-at-how-long-its-taking-over-4-months-since-passport-request-t180630.0.html

Keesio, an opinion is not a "shot". However Alurra71's response is. My follow up opinion? "It's the hit dog that howls".

I am not familiar with Soleil2020's story but I generally have more sympathy for all bona fide couples that are separated for extended periods of time or have to face appeals, especially if children are involved. Sprinkle in unstable political, economic, cultural and religious factors that exist in many third world countries along with poor or non-existent human/women's rights records........and yes I do believe those circumstances are more difficult than those of us from first world countries. I am not negating the experience of others, simply pointing out that there are varying degrees of "trials".

 

[keesio]

Of course an opinion can be a shot. Fact is usually neutral (it is simply fact). An insult is usually from one's opinion (example: "I think that all <enter demographic> are stupid". That's an opinion that is quite an insult).

In any case Soleil2020 was an example of the reverse. An american sponsored to move to Canada who was venting at her extreme frustration at the wait (which ended up being less than a year when all was said and done) and lashing out at people who said she should be patient and that she has it better than others (much like you are saying). The irony is that myself and (I believe) Alurra was on that thread (among others, esp scylla) trying to signal that her situation is not bad but she would not have any of it. Towards the end some posters gave a neutral stance saying this process is difficult on everyone and it is unfair to say that one has it easier than other (regardless of where they are from) as everyone is different. Overall I think she overreacted but I will heed the advice of the neutral posters and leave it alone (though I didn't appreciate her "FU" message afterwards)