CHC High Commission of Depression & Mental Disorder

[Wajea]

When you will be effected by a long wait, how will you survive to continue your career ?
WHY PEOPLE SHOULD SUPPORT THIS PETITION?
How would you feel if you took a month off work to travel to another country and get married just to find out you have to wait years to see your husband/wife again? How would you feel raising a child alone for years be it in Canada or the country abroad because you had to wait an astronomical amount of time for your husband/wife to arrive? As of March 2014, Any Canadian citizen or a Permanent Residence of Canada (Landed Immigrant) that marries outside Canada can be subjected to a spousal sponsorship applicant wait time of up to 32 months depending on the country of the applicant.
http://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/chris-alexander-and-citizenship-and-immigration-canada-wait-32-months-to-see-your-husband-wife-because-he-she-is-a-pakistani

 

[Alurra71]

When you married your spouse in another country you KNEW that he/she would need a visa to immigrate to Canada. This was the choice you made for yourself. Many are still waiting to be reunited with their families you are not the only one. While I sympathize with you that you have to wait, just like the rest of us had to or are waiting, again, this was your choice.

We, as Pakistanis, want to be processed urgently as we have been discriminated against and files have been abandoned or neglected.

That quote right there. Pakistanis are NOT the only nationality to be suffering. Your sadness at not being able to be with your spouse in Canada is understandable. If it is too much to bear, you can always return to Pakistan and be with her. Being granted a PR visa is not a RIGHT. It is a privilege. Sometimes those privileges come with a hefty wait. You have to make choices in everything you do in life. You chose to immigrate to Canada, you chose to return to your home country to marry and you chose to file your sponsorship application to bring your spouse/family here to Canada. We all make choices and we all make sacrifices, but at the end of the day, it was our own PERSONAL choices that landed us in the current situation.

Good luck and god speed on your application.

 

[apt2208]

When you married your spouse in another country you KNEW that he/she would need a visa to immigrate to Canada. This was the choice you made for yourself. Many are still waiting to be reunited with their families you are not the only one. While I sympathize with you that you have to wait, just like the rest of us had to or are waiting, again, this was your choice.


That quote right there. Pakistanis are NOT the only nationality to be suffering. Your sadness at not being able to be with your spouse in Canada is understandable. If it is too much to bear, you can always return to Pakistan and be with her. Being granted a PR visa is not a RIGHT. It is a privilege. Sometimes those privileges come with a hefty wait. You have to make choices in everything you do in life. You chose to immigrate to Canada, you chose to return to your home country to marry and you chose to file your sponsorship application to bring your spouse/family here to Canada. We all make choices and we all make sacrifices, but at the end of the day, it was our own PERSONAL choices that landed us in the current situation.

Good luck and god speed on your application.

+1

 

[commonlawsponsor]

Being granted a PR visa is not a RIGHT. It is a privilege. Sometimes those privileges come with a hefty wait. You have to make choices in everything you do in life. You chose to immigrate to Canada, you chose to return to your home country to marry and you chose to file your sponsorship application to bring your spouse/family here to Canada. We all make choices and we all make sacrifices, but at the end of the day, it was our own PERSONAL choices that landed us in the current situation.

Well said.

 

[steerpike]

That quote right there. Pakistanis are NOT the only nationality to be suffering. Your sadness at not being able to be with your spouse in Canada is understandable. If it is too much to bear, you can always return to Pakistan and be with her. Being granted a PR visa is not a RIGHT. It is a privilege. Sometimes those privileges come with a hefty wait.

Ridiculous. By that logic they could make everyone wait 10 years. Or 20 years. Or 100 years. Canadian citizens have the right to marry whoever they wish. While it may be necessary to put some restrictions on who is given a PR (criminals, cases of fraud, etc) they should only be denied if they can show some real reason for denying it.

Regardless of that, the applications should always be processed in a reasonable time-frame. Even MASS MURDERERS are guaranteed a speedily trial, but when it comes to simply looking at a police cert, marriage cert, and a few other documents, suddenly its acceptable for the government to take half a decade? Why?

Sponsors pay the full cost of the application process, Canadian tax-payers are not disadvantaged, there is ZERO excuse why it should take so long.

Because of the babyboom the demographics are skewed in Canad and the birthrate is too low to support a healthy economy and society.

From a purely selfish point of view, it is in Canadas best interest to have immigration (especially of younger people who will be starting families).

Every time CIC drags the process along for no reason they are harming Canadians and Canada itself.

 

[lellen]

That quote right there. Pakistanis are NOT the only nationality to be suffering. Your sadness at not being able to be with your spouse in Canada is understandable. If it is too much to bear, you can always return to Pakistan and be with her. Being granted a PR visa is not a RIGHT. It is a privilege. Sometimes those privileges come with a hefty wait. You have to make choices in everything you do in life. You chose to immigrate to Canada, you chose to return to your home country to marry and you chose to file your sponsorship application to bring your spouse/family here to Canada. We all make choices and we all make sacrifices, but at the end of the day, it was our own PERSONAL choices that landed us in the current situation.

I strongly disagree. It is completely unfair that a few people have so much power over so many people's lives. It is people's CHILDREN. It is people's FAMILY. The "it is a privilege and not a right" sentence drives me crazy! Canadian citizens who fall in love with people from other countries are in complete disadvantage... and last time I checked they are free to marry and fall in love with whomever they want. This person has been waiting since 2008! I'm sure if they knew that the process would take this long, their choices would've been different. And I'm pretty sure some people's "choices" are based on their lives being in danger every day living in the country they come from. "Choices" is a matter of perspective.

 

[Alurra71]

I strongly disagree. It is completely unfair that a few people have so much power over so many people's lives. It is people's CHILDREN. It is people's FAMILY. The "it is a privilege and not a right" sentence drives me crazy! Canadian citizens who fall in love with people from other countries are in complete disadvantage... and last time I checked they are free to marry and fall in love with whomever they want. This person has been waiting since 2008! I'm sure if they knew that the process would take this long, their choices would've been different. And I'm pretty sure some people's "choices" are based on their lives being in danger every day living in the country they come from. "Choices" is a matter of perspective.

And you are absolutely right. He was FREE to marry whom he wished, HOWEVER with that FREE CHOICE he opted to marry someone that requires a visa to enter the country and live legally. It is plain and simple. If a Canadian CITIZEN opts to marry someone from outside of Canada, and they KNOW that person needs a visa to enter the country and they then again OPT to apply for an outland sponsorship, why don't they also OPT or CHOOSE to live in that country with their CHOSEN spouse until that visa is processed?

I simply made a statement that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, chose whom we wanted to marry regardless of the barrier presented to us. I do agree that files should be attended to in a decent time frame, that was never debated nor dismissed. We choose whom to start our family with we are given choices, oh so many choices throughout our lives. It is our jobs to ensure we make the choices that are best for us and that we can live with the consequences of our choices. In the end nobody but YOU are responsible for you happiness. Does the system need an overhaul to be more streamlined, absolutely, but adding a petition to demand your nationality take precedence over that of any others in the world? I think not.


Steerpike you said

Canadian citizens have the right to marry whoever they wish.

You show me where I said that you don't have the right to marry someone of another nationality and sponsor them to come to Canada. I said to be granted a PR visa is a PRIVILEDGE, not a right. I said nothing about the CHOICES you make in whom you marry. Only that you should be prepared to live with the consequences of YOUR actions. Nobody but you is responsible for you.

 

[user828]

FYI - Wajea is a woman who has ONLY waited 6 years for Husband and Kids ( out of the ordinary timeline ), while it's very comfortable to suggest politically correct statements - the person bearing it knows how troubling is it to see other offices get visas way faster. At the end of the day, the sponsor is Canadian who works hard, pays taxes like all other but has to be discriminated with unfair timeline.

In addition, they make it tough for spouses to get visitor visa so atleast they can come and stay with them - how does one expect to leave their jobs in Canada and wait with their spouses for 3-4 years and then come back?

Unless Canadian Govt is hinting at - no thanks, we don't need ppl from that part of the world - then they will succeed in some time as ppl would stop marrying ppl from here

 

[Ellasg]

That quote right there. Pakistanis are NOT the only nationality to be suffering.

And acknowledging one's suffering doesn't automatically cancel someone else's pain. I don't believe they were in any way trying to dimish people who applied through other Visa Offices.

 

[keesio]

Alurra71 - I get what you are saying. And you make some good points. But 32 months is ridiculous. If CIC is gonna reject someone, at least do it in a fairly timely fashion. I know that certain regions will take more time than others due to demand and higher instances of red flags in the application and such. But I think up to 18 months is tolerable. Anything more than that and you really are putting people in limbo since they don't know what is gonna happen. I'm not saying to approve everyone. But make a decision sooner so people can move on with their lives at least.

But yes, being granted a PR is a privilege.

 

[March2014apply]

why don't they also OPT or CHOOSE to live in that country with their CHOSEN spouse until that visa is processed?

I simply made a statement that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, chose whom we wanted to marry regardless of the barrier presented to us. I do agree that files should be attended to in a decent time frame, that was never debated nor dismissed. We choose whom to start our family with we are given choices, oh so many choices throughout our lives. It is our jobs to ensure we make the choices that are best for us and that we can live with the consequences of our choices. In the end nobody but YOU are responsible for you happiness. Does the system need an overhaul to be more streamlined, absolutely, but adding a petition to demand your nationality take precedence over that of any others in the world? I think not.

Because one might not necessarily have the visa or eligibility to live in the country of their spouse just as the spouse doesn't have the same in Canada.

And since you speak about choices, protesting and lobbying for shorter wait times is also a choice, and a choice the thread starter, and others signing and petitioning, are choosing to make. Nothing wrong in that.

 

[Alurra71]

Again, you are all assuming that I don't sympathize with the OP's statement. I never said I did not. I understand and I sympathize. I have also undergone the same trials as everyone else immigrating to another country.

There are obviously many questions surrounding this womans application otherwise it likely would not take this long of a time. They have not progressed on her file, according to her timeline, since January of 2013. How many of you waited a year or more to get an interview because they didn't really believe the relationship and needed to verify it. Her spouse had an interview in Jan 2013. It has now been 15 months since they have been 'actively' processing her application. She gives no information to the entirety of the situation and leaves it to us to try and decipher what she is stating. She apparently filed as a refugee to gain her PR status. Perhaps there were questions that needed to be resolved as to why her entire family was not included.

Ellasg: You said

And acknowledging one's suffering doesn't automatically cancel someone else's pain. I don't believe they were in any way trying to dimish people who applied through other Visa Offices.

Please point me to where I said that her pain should be cancelled or that she doesn't matter or whatever it is that you THINK I inferred with my statement. My statement was in DIRECT relation to the OP's link and the direct quote from her petition that stated

We, as Pakistanis, want to be processed urgently as we have been discriminated against and files have been abandoned or neglected.

No where in that particular statement do I see ANYTHING that says CIC's policies regarding spousal sponsorships are skewed and need to be revamped to bring together families from ALL nationalities quicker. Do you see that in there somewhere?

 

[Alurra71]

Because one might not necessarily have the visa or eligibility to live in the country of their spouse just as the spouse doesn't have the same in Canada.

And since you speak about choices, protesting and lobbying for shorter wait times is also a choice, and a choice the thread starter, and others signing and petitioning, are choosing to make. Nothing wrong in that.

Absolutely, it is your choice. I disagreed that her nationality ALONE should be included in her petition. I stated her nationality is NOT the only to suffer these same waits and suffer without their families. My original point is long since lost in this thread because others are busy trying to deconstruct what I've stated while attempting to peg me as someone who doesn't care. The point is quite opposite. I think the OP's petition would have a fantastic chance to perhaps reach the desk of someone who COULD change all of this had she taken the time to not EXCLUDE all of those who are not Pakistani. If you include EVERYONE who suffers these long wait times then the voice is much louder and will be heard.

 

[Ellasg]

And please point me where I said that you said that her pain should be cancelled.
I was as vague as I could be but I'll explain what I meant:

They are focusing on their suffering (Pakistanis), but never saying "Pakistanis are the ONLY nationality to be suffering" as you emphasized.
And there's nothing wrong with that, they're simply acknowledging their struggle and asking for a change, anyone can create a petition and write letters on behalf of their countrymen.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[Ellasg]

I never implied that you don't care or that you think she doesn't matter, I was simply saying that the fact that the Pakistani are united to sign a petition DOES NOT cancel the suffering of people from other nationalities and you seemed not to like it that they didn't include every visa office in the petition.
And I'm not arguing, just explaining my point.