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I get that, but because one person of equal skill had parents worldly enough to encourage international study shouldn't give them a higher advantage. Students already have the chance of proving they are good enough by having 3 years of work visa. That's more than the International Experience Canada visas by a year. They already have a year advantage on graduates from other countries with the added benefit of a 'local' degree.Alexios07 said:
I agree that people studying in Canada should have easier pr process but shouldn't clash with non students. A separate stream would be the best choice.
I studied my bachelor's degree and worked in Canada. I probably spend double per year as a worker then I did when I was a student, tuition included. Keep in mind that I had scholarships that the university provided (No external scholarship coming from outside of the university itself) which resulted in my tuition being cheaper than that of a Canadian citizen. A lot of people in this forum claim that international students are attractive since they are young "Talent". If that was the truth then even though the tuition is high these students should be able to secure a pretty good scholarship.
An additional point that I want to add is in regards to the additional points to be added. Adding points based only on Canadian education doesn't make any sense to me. The reason I say that is because I worked as a tutor for close to 6 years, I mostly tutored international students. I've seen some people who graduated who I honestly don't think are qualified at all, some students stretch out a 4 years Bachelor's degree to 6 or 7 years and graduate with no work experience. I've also seen people with very high academic standing graduate with honors but have zero people skills and struggle for years to land a job. Therefore, I think if points are to be added to international student it should come hand in hand with Canadian work experience and/or high skilled and paying job.
Another aspect that sorta bothers me about the EE crs scoring when it comes to educational credentials is the academic standing. An individual with high grades that reflect good on that individual is put on the same level as someone who barely made it through.
An additional point that I want to add is in regards to the additional points to be added. Adding points based only on Canadian education doesn't make any sense to me. The reason I say that is because I worked as a tutor for close to 6 years, I mostly tutored international students. I've seen some people who graduated who I honestly don't think are qualified at all, some students stretch out a 4 years Bachelor's degree to 6 or 7 years and graduate with no work experience. I've also seen people with very high academic standing graduate with honors but have zero people skills and struggle for years to land a job. Therefore, I think if points are to be added to international student it should come hand in hand with Canadian work experience and/or high skilled and paying job.
Another aspect that sorta bothers me about the EE crs scoring when it comes to educational credentials is the academic standing. An individual with high grades that reflect good on that individual is put on the same level as someone who barely made it through.
I understand your point, but since Education sector is a multi-billion industry, so their voices and "concerns" have a big influence on the government.kryt0n said:
doesn't that how the current system work? if you don't have a job offer, your score is below 380 pts.moelaghil said:
Yes and no, points are awarded for educational credentials and Canadian work experience. The problem is that for international students with Canadian work experience (say 1 year) along with perfect language score and a high skilled job. The points given aren't enough to get this individual to be competitive in the EE system.
Take myself as an example, I have an excellent skilled job in my field of study. My field of study is difficult to get an LMIA for, I'm not even sure if it is a feasible route for my company to go through. Also, I personally think the LMIA process in a little convoluted and is prone to making the employer's lie about certain items. I'm already working for the company, the candidate they wanted to begin with, I know their inner workings and integrated with the staff. So the company is expected to post a job posting for my job and then try to prove why I'm the best candidate? It just doesn't strike me as being honest/fair to anyone involved especially candidates that apply to these fake job postings.
So my job counts for nothing other than accumulating work experience when it comes to EE.
I'm hoping that they add more points for international students for having a job offer not necessarily backed by an LMIA. Perhaps compound the points with job experience.
Take myself as an example, I have an excellent skilled job in my field of study. My field of study is difficult to get an LMIA for, I'm not even sure if it is a feasible route for my company to go through. Also, I personally think the LMIA process in a little convoluted and is prone to making the employer's lie about certain items. I'm already working for the company, the candidate they wanted to begin with, I know their inner workings and integrated with the staff. So the company is expected to post a job posting for my job and then try to prove why I'm the best candidate? It just doesn't strike me as being honest/fair to anyone involved especially candidates that apply to these fake job postings.
So my job counts for nothing other than accumulating work experience when it comes to EE.
I'm hoping that they add more points for international students for having a job offer not necessarily backed by an LMIA. Perhaps compound the points with job experience.
Alexios07 said:
yea i read the slide however and he talks about family processing time i understand he is including sibligs, it is possible that provinces will have their own bonus for siblings or open a different EE stream. I dont think it will affect regular EE. They would face more chaos.Elrud said:
well buddy i dont know about you. But yea i would like to see a payhway for siblings if not i will apply to whatever french stream they open or use the ontario french stream. I know what im doing and i confident cuz i have several paths sibling or no sibling points i still have other options. People have to seach different pathways. I trust and i am 95% sure points will be granted to siblings cuz other matters regarding express entry revision have been addressed already others in progress, siblings are not pushing or signing petitions,that s why people hear less about siblings, students are all over the place. desperate would not be the word but optimistic.kryt0n said: