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Changes in Citizenhip laws, we should react

surgi

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Canada’s proposed new Citizenship Act reeks of mistrust. There’s no other way to put it. It’s an insult to many of the seven million foreign-born people who have settled here, a fifth of the population, and to many of the 250,000 who will arrive this year. Parliament should call the governing Conservatives on this before they ram it into law.
In typical fashion for Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s law-and-order obsessed government, the laws promise to “protect the value of Canadian citizenship” by cracking down on problems that largely don’t exist. The vast majority of new Canadians are loyal, honest, law-abiding citizens. They have contributed enormously to the building-up of this nation. But you wouldn’t know it to judge from the unwelcome mat rolled out this week by Citizenship and Immigration Minister Chris Alexander. It’s all about cracking down on the marginal few who turn out to be treasonous, terrorists, criminals or fraudsters, and raising the bar for everyone else.
At its worst the new law devalues the citizenship of hundreds of thousands of Canadians who hold dual citizenships. Canadians who commit treason by making war on this country already face life in prison; so do those who commit terrorism or espionage. That’s as it should be. But the new law would go a step further and strip Canadian citizenship from dual citizens who commit such crimes. Why? They’re Canadians, after all. Citizenship is a fundamental status, not something that people have to “deserve” in the government’s eyes.
As the Star has argued before, this discriminatory measure creates two categories of citizenship and disenfranchises naturalized citizens. It may well be unconstitutional. What’s next? Will Ottawa one day be trying to strip citizenship from other classes of criminals? Where does it end?
The opposition New Democrats and Liberals should call out the government on this measure, and demand that it be scrapped. The parliamentary record should note that it faced fierce resistance.
Other aspects of the law, while less objectionable, still raise concern.
The new rules would give Alexander and his successors greater unilateral power to grant and revoke citizenships. That power now resides with the federal cabinet. How sturdy is our citizenship if one minister alone can snuff it out?
Moreover, in future Canadian citizenship can be denied not only to people who pose a threat to this country, or who have posed one in the past, but also to those who may pose one in future. That could be invoked to refuse just about any applicant. How does Ottawa intend to justify such a crystal-ball presumption of guilt?
Going forward people charged with or convicted of serious crimes abroad would automatically be denied citizenship. While that might make sense for an American who is serving time for treason or terrorism, it would also apply to people convicted of offences in places where the courts may be politicized or corrupt and the laws unjust. Plenty of Canadians have been railroaded by unjust foreign courts. Would the “ministerial waiver” that Ottawa has in such cases be applied liberally or stingily?
Ottawa has also raised the bar to citizenship by making permanent residents wait longer before they can apply for citizenship, by cranking up processing fees, and by requiring more applicants to pass language and knowledge tests. If there’s some pressing need to make it harder to obtain citizenship it’s hard to see.
The new laws aren’t all bad. They rightly put Canadian military personnel who are permanent residents but not citizens on the fast track to full citizenship. They extend citizenship to the so-called “lost Canadians” who were wrongly denied it, including some war brides and their children. There’s a welcome crackdown on fraud, whether by citizenship consultants or applicants. And to combat passports of convenience permanent residents will have to physically reside here longer before getting citizenship, and file taxes.
Still, the thrust of the new Citizenship Act is that newcomers should be viewed through a prism of suspicion, and that the bar should be higher. That’s discouraging. Absent a wave of treasonous, criminal fraudsters, the Harper government is “fixing” a problem that exists chiefly in its own mind.

source: thestar.com/opinion/editorials/2014/02/07/


First of all when we immigrated to Canada we started a system of immigration and citizenship with well known details. Between these details that after 1095 days of physical stay in Canada we will be eligible for Citizenship application. Based on these informations and laws we arranged our financial,social, and professional situation.Now many between us have only months to be elgble for this right ,if this law is considered all of them have to wait for one more year. As you know all during the first 3 years there are many immigrants who did not work in their profession or even did not work at all. Some of the professional bodies request even if you pass their exams like doctors ,not to be away from practice for a specified period of time which maybe one or two years. So you have to leave Canada to work in your profession for sometime before you apply for licensure. If they deprive us from this right it would catastrophic fr those people who spent part of their lve and money realize their dream of immigration. Also increasing the 1095 days to 1460 will not serve this group of people at all,in contrary it will add worrisome problems to their original difficulties facing since immigration.
If they put conditions or obstacles if you leave Canada after obtaining citizenship,they will hurt you four times. The first one when they promised to come and all facilities will be offered to find a job and integrate in the society ,but finally you found unsurmental obstcales to get a license and offer your knowledge and experience to your new country. The second time when they offered you the honour to be a Canadian citizen but they deprived you from the privilige to find a job in an another place all over the where you can offer your knowledge and experience as long as they are not yet accepted in Canada. The third time when you feel you are allowed to give what you to the Canadian society which oblige you to stay out of work and waiting for the help of somebody for living expenses,while you can be an add to the economy and society if you work elsewhere.The fourth time when they separate your from your family and children who became Canadians and you will not be able to see them and enjoy living sometimes with them or even let them take care of you after you became a retired person.


This is part of the Canadian Constitution :
section 6.

Every citizen of Canada has the right to enter, remain in and leave Canada

Every citizen of Canada and every person who has the status of a permanent resident of Canada has the right (a) to move to and take up residence in any province; and (b) to pursue the gaining of a livelihood in any province.

A. Limitations on Mobility Rights


a) any laws or practices of general application in force in a province other than those that discriminate among persons primarily on the basis of province of present or previous residence; and

b) any laws providing for reasonable residency requirements as a qualification for the receipt of publicly provided social services.



‏I do not believe that there are many immigrants who came just to have the Canadian Citizenship to do something illegal. If those people exist they are very minority which does not need to punish thousands and hunderds of thousandhavegood immigrants because of them. Those who leave either did not have been licensed to work in their original professions., or they have their own social or familial reasons for which they may leave Canada for a while. Still this group is considered a minority.
‏These propositions will devalue many immigrants and make a discrimination not only from Canadians but also from older immigrants . We will see a third class citizens who have less rights than the others, this will initiate all types of haterness and non appropriate reactions and feeling of nonesteem and by consequences violence and terrorism.
‏When we immigrated to Canada we explored many aspects of the immigration process including and not limited to the citizenship status. Even before immigration we know that we have to have a physical presence of 1095 days within 4 years to be eligible for Canadian citizenship. Based on these informations we have arranged our financial , professional,social and familial affairs. Imagine that few months before you are eligible for this citizenship application you are asked to rearrange all your affairs for one year more. This is in the same time you do not have any support to make these changes. It is like a game , because you have the power of the rules you change them at any moment and without any notice or warning. There are many immigrants who lost tens of thousands of dollars, lost many years fighting to obtain a professional license, lost an income which can be added to their lives if they did not immigrate, and will loose their children if this proposed law is applied.You can not in the middle of the contract change any of its articles except after the approval of the two parties.We already started the application for citizenship since the first day we landed in Canada.We try to accomplish all the requirements for citizenship including these 1095 days of physical presence as well as other conditions. It is unfair to change any of these rules on which was based our immigration process.
I open this topic to search support and to organise actions to stop these changes at least for those who already landed in Canada and considered started the process of application since the are landed .Please write to me to organise our actions.
 

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There are already many threads on this topic.

I would suggest that you join the ongoing discussion in this thread:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/new-citizenship-bill-thursday-feb-6th-t184049.0.html
 

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Or this one (it leads with a petition):

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/sign-petition-citizenship-act-bill-c24-discrimination-t184650.0.html
 

surgi

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scylla said:
Or this one (it leads with a petiti
canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/sign-petition-citizenship-act-bill-c24-discrimination-t184650.0.html

this petition is talking on one point only . The countability of days before the status of permanent resident. I would like to participate in a petition which includes several points including do not accept the 1460 days for those are already landed immigants and keep the status of a permanet resident, and against any law which limits the freedom of moving.
 

notafool

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To be honest the Cons will do whatever the want to. They promised to have immigrant friendly policies when they were in a minority. The minute they got into power with a majority they showed their true colors.

Citizenship test requirements, pass scores etcs have changed so many times that I have lost count. Sponsorship processing times have skyrocketed. I can't even believe the Canadian media calls the CONS the party for immigrants.

Instead of complaining about all these changes there is something that will catch the CONs attention very fast. Make a donation to another party for example like the Liberals. Up to 400 dollars you will get back 300 dollars in tax credit, you can also donate another 400 dollars to the riding association and get 300 dollars tax back.

I put my money where my mouth is and donated to the Liberals for the 1st time in my life. CONs won't change. It might not be in their interest to have immigrants become citizens and possibly vote against them. The CON base doesn't have many positive feelings about ethnic minorities or immigrants. You can see it with all the comments in mainstream newpapers about how immigrants deserve to be made to have a hard time getting citizenship or sponsoring their relatives.

The CONs just want your vote and donations but not necessarily you in this country.

Let me be clear the CONS don't care about any objections you have to their immigration changes. So make them care with your money. Election is less then 2 years away.
 

vic48912

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notafool said:
To be honest the Cons will do whatever the want to. They promised to have immigrant friendly policies when they were in a minority. The minute they got into power with a majority they showed their true colors.

Citizenship test requirements, pass scores etcs have changed so many times that I have lost count. Sponsorship processing times have skyrocketed. I can't even believe the Canadian media calls the CONS the party for immigrants.

Instead of complaining about all these changes there is something that will catch the CONs attention very fast. Make a donation to another party for example like the Liberals. Up to 400 dollars you will get back 300 dollars in tax credit, you can also donate another 400 dollars to the riding association and get 300 dollars tax back.

I put my money where my mouth is and donated to the Liberals for the 1st time in my life. CONs won't change. It might not be in their interest to have immigrants become citizens and possibly vote against them. The CON base doesn't have many positive feelings about ethnic minorities or immigrants. You can see it with all the comments in mainstream newpapers about how immigrants deserve to be made to have a hard time getting citizenship or sponsoring their relatives.

The CONs just want your vote and donations but not necessarily you in this country.

Let me be clear the CONS don't care about any objections you have to their immigration changes. So make them care with your money. Election is less then 2 years away.
is it not illegal for non Canadians donating to a political party? It sound illegal to me

The way Harper Govt is changing Canada is scary, I wouldn't be surprise seeing him screaming on TV soon raising his arms higher with a funny moustache!!

Not true, the Cons do not want your vote, they want 70 years old voters preferably white male who long for 1960 era......
 

notafool

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As per what I read permanent residents can donate as well. I am a citizen but am effected by relatives being effected by the CONS immigration and citizenship policies.

If you call the Liberals donation line they can tell you whether you can donate or not and the associated tax credits.
 

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notafool said:
As per what I read permanent residents can donate as well. I am a citizen but am effected by relatives being effected by the CONS immigration and citizenship policies.

If you call the Liberals donation line they can tell you whether you can donate or not and the associated tax credits.
Permanent residents can indeed legally donate.

I am a Canadian citizen or permanent resident of Canada and I am making this donation with my own personal credit card or bank account, and not with a corporate credit card or bank account.

https://www.liberal.ca/donate/
Anyway, I will definitely donate, but I will have to do some research. I'm not that well versed in politics. I have to make sure I'm with them on other political issues as well (than just on immigration policies).
 

vic48912

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u4g5 said:
talk to ur MP, i hope hes a conservatives
This is one potential citizen conservatives have ticked off with all their policy changes that border on xenophobia. Nah I rather talk to Mickey Mouse than look a conservative in the face.....green, ndp or liberals for me moving forward
 

vic48912

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notafool said:
As per what I read permanent residents can donate as well. I am a citizen but am effected by relatives being effected by the CONS immigration and citizenship policies.

If you call the Liberals donation line they can tell you whether you can donate or not and the associated tax credits.
Since 2008 when Harper got majority, there is no year his government have not made drastic changes to our immigration policy. When I originally came to Canada I know of many immigrants that didn't bother to file their citizen application because they know it will always be there, why the rush! Now there is stampede as soon as you reach the qualifying days because no one knows what hurdles those "good for nothing" Harper Cons will dream up.....just read most threads here and see how the uncertainty are stressing immigrants.....you can not make long term plan!!

My sister in States just got her US citizenship, took 4 months to complete.....would have been 3 months because her background check shows she had an inconsequential run in with the law, which was thrown out by the court. In Canada that kind of application would be classified as non routine and dumped in a dustbin to gather dust
 

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Since 2008 when Harper got majority, there is no year his government have not made drastic changes to our immigration policy. When I originally came to Canada I know of many immigrants that didn't bother to file their citizen application because they know it will always be there, why the rush! Now there is stampede as soon as you reach the qualifying days because no one knows what hurdles those "good for nothing" Harper Cons will dream up.....just read most threads here and see how the uncertainty are stressing immigrants.....you can not make long term plan!!

My sister in States just got her US citizenship, took 4 months to complete.....would have been 3 months because her background check shows she had an inconsequential run in with the law, which was thrown out by the court. In Canada that kind of application would be classified as non routine and dumped in a dustbin to gather dust
How long did your sister have to live in the states as a permanent resident (GC) before being eligible to apply for the citizenship? And is it true that if someone only stays a month in the States, the hole year will be counted towards the residency time (someone told me this and I just wanted to confirm)?
 

surgi

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‏‭I am a doctor and I know that one of the great problems that make Canada in need of doctors is that the Canadian doctors go to USA after graduation to live and work there. For long years the balance between doctors who leave Canada for USA and vice versa is in favor of USA. The question is WHY? it is simple ,because USA need doctors, they also recognise the Canadian medical educationl system. Furthermore the doctors in USA gain more money than in Canada, and pay less taxes. The question here was it or not more beneficial for the conservative party to write a bill to oblige the Canadian doctors to sign an intent to stay in Canada before granting the medical degree ? I think it would be more beneficial for Canada to make the Canadian licensed doctors sign such intent more than to let a non-licensed doctor to sign it!!!

Medical Canadian licensing bodies require that you not be away from practice for more than 1 (or in some instances 2) years. Of course, until he has his license, international doctors cannot practice in Canada, a Catch 22 that confronts all too many doctors from abroad. But Most of them had planned to seek practical work overseas as soon as they had the Canadian citizenship, all the while continuing to complete their accreditation requirements here. That way they could meet all of the requirements to be able to practice in Canada in the most expeditious way. Sometimes, their ability to return to work in their field is also critical to their abilities to support their families here in Canada, all of whom have no desire to live anywhere else. Those doctors will return as soon as they have completed their hours of practice.‭


Under this new scenario, many doctors and other permanent residents cannot leave the country to resume their practice for another year, which not only will delay their accreditation here but will also create severe hardship for their families as their savings are running out. They were going to rely on their income from abroad to support them here,as long as they do not allow them to work in their profession.But now they are changing the rules on them mid-stream. That is unfair to them, and it is unfair to Canadians who will benefit greatly from having those doctors practice medicine here as soon as possible.

‭In reality the declared reasons for these changes are widely separated from the proposed regulations. Nobody can imagine that you will strenthgen citizenship by staying one more year,or signing an intent to stay document. Furthermore, those who spent part of their lives working or studying in Canada before being permanent residents, no sense to increase this time allawance by 2 years!!! Many of them were living in Canada for more than 10 years. You will strenthgen citizenship if you work on integration of the new immigrants in the Canadian job market, if you work on the difficult file of licensing bodies to facilitate offering licenses to permanent residents. You will achieve this goal also if you work to integrate the new comers children in schools and the whole family in the social activities around them.There is no system to follow the families of new comer and estimate how they are integrated in the Canadian society. All of a suddent they discover that this family immigrated since few years and now they apply for citizenship.Many other measures should be taken but I do not think that they are willing to take steps in this direction as it is more difficult and require hard working. It would be rather easy to pass such laws in the parliment as they have the majority.

‭According to the statistics, about 80% of immigrants get their citizenship within 2 years. So the whole process takes 3 years of physical presence and 2 years of processing equal 5 years. The minister proposed 4 years of physical presence and one year of processing so the total would be 5 years!!! where is the acceleration here??!!! In fact it will be longer. The backlog may move a little during the transient year where the supposed applicants who finished 1095 have to wait one more year. After that everything will go back to the same point but more long as it will be 4 years of physical stay and 2 or 3 years of preocessing.

‭The minister did not touch the real problems which created this backlog,which include the residency questionnaire. The majority of files which are delayed are processed in a residency questinnaire, which requests so many documents and the time and efforts are wasted in correspondance and checking. Finally, how many cases of frauds discovered? The minister did not give us any informations about the percentage of discovered frauds since the establishement of this residency questionnaire??!! Was it deserving for such major efforts and money spent? What are the efforts done in CIC to change all of this?

‭Well, if the minister would like to move the backlog here one suggestion:

‭1- all applicants must pass the citizenship exam as the language exam before application for citizenship and no need to wait for the file revision before that decision.Actually before I take a decision I would like to know your knowledge about Canada.
‭2- As long as we are fraud obssessed, all applicants must prepare all papers needed as if they were requested a residency questionnaire. These documents must be arranged and numbered in a special sequence,for example from 1 to 25. The citizenship officer will pass through documents from number 1 to 12 and most of the applications which are considred as straight forward will be considered as eligible for citizenship and decision is taken. If the officer is not totally convinced he go further in the file and may be able to take a decision from documents 13 to 21 for example . Those who are not satisfied after the 25 regular documents ,can ask for more documents and I am sure they will be a minority.
‭3- Perhaps some people will say that is too much for all applicants. That is not real, because these extra documents will be prepared by those ,for example, who left Canada during their residency more than a certain period . So, for those who did not leave at all or left for short periods ,they are not requested to do it. If their situation was more complicated they have to prepare more documents,and if it was more simple they have not to add any more documents. So, it is only a little bit burden for some people and believe me they would prefer this and not to stay long months and years in correspondance and waiting with CIC.
‭4- An additional reason is that it would be more human that all people prepared the needed documents, otherwise there are some suspected other who are requested to prepare for a residency questionnaire.
 

vic48912

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surgi said:
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‏‭I am a doctor and I know that one of the great problems that make Canada in need of doctors is that the Canadian doctors go to USA after graduation to live and work there. For long years the balance between doctors who leave Canada for USA and vice versa is in favor of USA. The question is WHY? it is simple ,because USA need doctors, they also recognise the Canadian medical educationl system. Furthermore the doctors in USA gain more money than in Canada, and pay less taxes. The question here was it or not more beneficial for the conservative party to write a bill to oblige the Canadian doctors to sign an intent to stay in Canada before granting the medical degree ? I think it would be more beneficial for Canada to make the Canadian licensed doctors sign such intent more than to let a non-licensed doctor to sign it!!!

Medical Canadian licensing bodies require that you not be away from practice for more than 1 (or in some instances 2) years. Of course, until he has his license, international doctors cannot practice in Canada, a Catch 22 that confronts all too many doctors from abroad. But Most of them had planned to seek practical work overseas as soon as they had the Canadian citizenship, all the while continuing to complete their accreditation requirements here. That way they could meet all of the requirements to be able to practice in Canada in the most expeditious way. Sometimes, their ability to return to work in their field is also critical to their abilities to support their families here in Canada, all of whom have no desire to live anywhere else. Those doctors will return as soon as they have completed their hours of practice.‭


Under this new scenario, many doctors and other permanent residents cannot leave the country to resume their practice for another year, which not only will delay their accreditation here but will also create severe hardship for their families as their savings are running out. They were going to rely on their income from abroad to support them here,as long as they do not allow them to work in their profession.But now they are changing the rules on them mid-stream. That is unfair to them, and it is unfair to Canadians who will benefit greatly from having those doctors practice medicine here as soon as possible.

‭In reality the declared reasons for these changes are widely separated from the proposed regulations. Nobody can imagine that you will strenthgen citizenship by staying one more year,or signing an intent to stay document. Furthermore, those who spent part of their lives working or studying in Canada before being permanent residents, no sense to increase this time allawance by 2 years!!! Many of them were living in Canada for more than 10 years. You will strenthgen citizenship if you work on integration of the new immigrants in the Canadian job market, if you work on the difficult file of licensing bodies to facilitate offering licenses to permanent residents. You will achieve this goal also if you work to integrate the new comers children in schools and the whole family in the social activities around them.There is no system to follow the families of new comer and estimate how they are integrated in the Canadian society. All of a suddent they discover that this family immigrated since few years and now they apply for citizenship.Many other measures should be taken but I do not think that they are willing to take steps in this direction as it is more difficult and require hard working. It would be rather easy to pass such laws in the parliment as they have the majority.

‭According to the statistics, about 80% of immigrants get their citizenship within 2 years. So the whole process takes 3 years of physical presence and 2 years of processing equal 5 years. The minister proposed 4 years of physical presence and one year of processing so the total would be 5 years!!! where is the acceleration here??!!! In fact it will be longer. The backlog may move a little during the transient year where the supposed applicants who finished 1095 have to wait one more year. After that everything will go back to the same point but more long as it will be 4 years of physical stay and 2 or 3 years of preocessing.

‭The minister did not touch the real problems which created this backlog,which include the residency questionnaire. The majority of files which are delayed are processed in a residency questinnaire, which requests so many documents and the time and efforts are wasted in correspondance and checking. Finally, how many cases of frauds discovered? The minister did not give us any informations about the percentage of discovered frauds since the establishement of this residency questionnaire??!! Was it deserving for such major efforts and money spent? What are the efforts done in CIC to change all of this?

‭Well, if the minister would like to move the backlog here one suggestion:

‭1- all applicants must pass the citizenship exam as the language exam before application for citizenship and no need to wait for the file revision before that decision.Actually before I take a decision I would like to know your knowledge about Canada.
‭2- As long as we are fraud obssessed, all applicants must prepare all papers needed as if they were requested a residency questionnaire. These documents must be arranged and numbered in a special sequence,for example from 1 to 25. The citizenship officer will pass through documents from number 1 to 12 and most of the applications which are considred as straight forward will be considered as eligible for citizenship and decision is taken. If the officer is not totally convinced he go further in the file and may be able to take a decision from documents 13 to 21 for example . Those who are not satisfied after the 25 regular documents ,can ask for more documents and I am sure they will be a minority.
‭3- Perhaps some people will say that is too much for all applicants. That is not real, because these extra documents will be prepared by those ,for example, who left Canada during their residency more than a certain period . So, for those who did not leave at all or left for short periods ,they are not requested to do it. If their situation was more complicated they have to prepare more documents,and if it was more simple they have not to add any more documents. So, it is only a little bit burden for some people and believe me they would prefer this and not to stay long months and years in correspondance and waiting with CIC.
‭4- An additional reason is that it would be more human that all people prepared the needed documents, otherwise there are some suspected other who are requested to prepare for a residency questionnaire.
All you said make sense however you forgot these changes been pushed through by conservatives are ideology driven, it's about throwing more red meat to their xenophobic base. It's not about fraud because Canada does not have immigration problem like Europe and USA. Even most of the draconian measure Harper cons are pushing wouldn't pass US congress with the outcry over their immigration level....

I moved from England here 2009, I had only one year to have my UK citizenship, I decline as I felt Canada is better than England for my kids. Transferred my contract here because I work for an international company. Had L1B visa for US to train personnel in Dallas FW but opted to do it on rotation as I preferred to pay tax in Canada, it's the right thing to do since my kids are here schooling and I was done with travelling. I have lots of job opportunities I have turned down just because I choose Canada to bring up my children. Most of us migrate because it will open lots of opportunity for our children, it was not about me, it was all about the quality of life for my kids and I know lots of immigrants share the same story.

Cons will never give you statistics. They don't call Harper govt North Korea of North America for nothing.....Harper is suppose to be contemporary of the Cold War era leader ie Reagan, Margret Thatcher or Pieter Botha of Apartheid South Africa era, is remnant of that era.

Next immigration changes close to election year is about almost non existing birth tourism attached with some other draconian changes to citizenship/immigration rule.....they have just started the ground work to rile up their xenophobic base...
 

vic48912

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farrous13 said:
How long did your sister have to live in the states as a permanent resident (GC) before being eligible to apply for the citizenship? And is it true that if someone only stays a month in the States, the hole year will be counted towards the residency time (someone told me this and I just wanted to confirm)?
She is married to a US citizen. From what she told me it's only 3 years if you are married to the same spouse and physically present 18months out of the 3 year......She moved from Scotland in 2009 married same year to her US bf....she told me all the years she stayed before becoming a Green card holder counted towards are citizenship residency requirement. Otherwise it would have been 5 years wait....

Not sure about the whole year count thing, will have to get back to you on that one