Canadian girl, Turkish guy. New to everything! Help!

[canuck_in_uk]

As such, it can be concluded that implied status still rings true for inland applications, but the procedure for OWP has changed (and whether or not you can keep working like before, I do not know).

That is not Implied Status; that's saying that an applicant can be sponsored by their spouse while in Canada illegally, with no status. I believe that policy was brought in to help long-time illegals, ones that had been living in Canada without status for years with their spouses and children, who didn't want to submit an application because they feared deportation. Implied Status comes solely from submission of the OWP.

Which brings me to a new question: how come they accept applications from Ontario Disability Support Program, yet say that I must be financially responsible for my husband for three years? So both of us have to live off my disability payment of $1100 monthly because they won't allow him to support us? That's a joke. And not logically feasible. Unless we stay at the Salvation Army shelter, and go to food banks! Not the life I envisioned for my family!

Being financially responsible for him for 3 years means that you are responsible for making sure that he has what he needs to live without going on welfare. If he refused to work, you would be required to support him. If he went on welfare in those 3 years, you must pay the government back for it.

Basically, it is to prevent the fraudsters that come to Canada and leave their spouse from living off of Canadians. There have been many cases where PRs have left their spouse as soon as they landed in Canada and ended up on welfare; here's a good example http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/russian-bride-leaves-elderly-man-with-25k-welfare-bill-1.1258077.

For those in a real relationship, it doesn't really mean anything. I'm financially responsible for my partner for another 2 years but he would never expect me to support both of us; we both work and pay the bills together.

 

[MofC2014]

I just answered another post for another forum member and seems the information I posted for her will be relevant to you. She was approved as sponsor, however the VO refused her husbands' PR visa based on financial inadmissibility. There has been quite a few refusals in the last little while based on this. You may want to prepare your application to ensure that the VO does not question how you and your husband will support yourself in Canada.

You and your husband have to prove that although you are on ODSP when your husband is here based on his education and qualifications he will be able to be gainfully employed therefore will be able to provide for you and himself and any children you already have or will have.


Here are some appeal cases that you can review.

https://www.canlii.org/en/search/search.do?text=financial+admissibility&type=decision&ccId=cisr

https://www.canlii.org/en/search/search.do?type=decision&ccId=cisr&text=financial%20inadmissibility

I apologize if i sound harsh, but also as you mentioned you are trying to have baby asap, I think in case where you cannot work and rely only on disability, actually having a baby is quite irresponsible and may actually work against you and your husband in the PR application. You must realize that it may take him 6 months before he finds a job in Canada, so what will happen in the meantime? especially if you have a baby. The VO may fear you will go on social assistance in addition to your disability.

 

[automaton82]

I just answered another post for another forum member and seems the information I posted for her will be relevant to you. She was approved as sponsor, however the VO refused her husbands' PR visa based on financial inadmissibility. There has been quite a few refusals in the last little while based on this. You may want to prepare your application to ensure that the VO does not question how you and your husband will support yourself in Canada.

You and your husband have to prove that although you are on ODSP when your husband is here based on his education and qualifications he will be able to be gainfully employed therefore will be able to provide for you and himself and any children you already have or will have.


Here are some appeal cases that you can review.

https://www.canlii.org/en/search/search.do?text=financial+admissibility&type=decision&ccId=cisr

https://www.canlii.org/en/search/search.do?type=decision&ccId=cisr&text=financial%20inadmissibility

I apologize if i sound harsh, but also as you mentioned you are trying to have baby asap, I think in case where you cannot work and rely only on disability, actually having a baby is quite irresponsible and may actually work against you and your husband in the PR application. You must realize that it may take him 6 months before he finds a job in Canada, so what will happen in the meantime? especially if you have a baby. The VO may fear you will go on social assistance in addition to your disability.

This is a very interesting website, no idea it existed. It's also interesting to note that they are indeed rejecting people due to financial reasons, but I was led to believe from this forum that for family class, it was never an issue.

It would appear that is not the case.

 

[Spikey92]

I apologize if i sound harsh, but also as you mentioned you are trying to have baby asap, I think in case where you cannot work and rely only on disability, actually having a baby is quite irresponsible and may actually work against you and your husband in the PR application. You must realize that it may take him 6 months before he finds a job in Canada, so what will happen in the meantime? especially if you having a baby. The VO may fear you will go on social assistance in addition to your disability.

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking... A Child is expensive! Its like having pets. If you cant give them the care and necessities they need,you honestly shouldnt have any.

 

[Brigitteisveryspecial]

Chill out everyone! I'm not going to have a child without considering the responsible care needed.

Back on topic, please.

My husband is a doctor, which is why I feel critical of the flaws in the system.

I just wanted to understand if I was expected to stretch social services to an extreme, rather than having my willing and able, educated and licensed husband working a high-level career which would make enough money to take care of both of us.

So back to the topic:

In hopes of not having a rejected application, is it best to apply from Turkey, and stay in Turkey until some work approval comes across? This is what it sounds like. At what stage in the 16-month process does the permission to work become available?

 

[Betina]

Chill out everyone! I'm not going to have a child without considering the responsible care needed.

Back on topic, please.

My husband is a doctor, which is why I feel critical of the flaws in the system.

I just wanted to understand if I was expected to stretch social services to an extreme, rather than having my willing and able, educated and licensed husband working a high-level career which would make enough money to take care of both of us.

So back to the topic:

In hopes of not having a rejected application, is it best to apply from Turkey, and stay in Turkey until some work approval comes across? This is what it sounds like. At what stage in the 16-month process does the permission to work become available?

If you apply outland your husband will not be able to ask for a work permit. He will have the right to work when he becomes a PR.

If you apply inland, but for that you have to both be in Canada for the entire duration of the process, he can apply for a work permit after the forst stage - meaning after approximately 10 months.

 

[MofC2014]

We are not attacking you, just trying to give you as much information as possible (based on past experiences). I would say your best option is to apply Outland, the application process will likely take less than the posted times. As you are currently residing outside of Canada in addition to all of the other forms required for an application, you will need to provide CIC with a statement (a plan) showing that once your husband is approved for a PR, you and him will relocate to Canada.

With respect to the ability of your husband's employment. He will indeed be able to work in Canada as soon as he gets a positive decision on the PR and the day he lands in Canada. There is no need for any additional work permits.

Now with respect to his profession, please do your research, and make sure your husband is fully aware that it may take him around 4 years before he will be able to practice medicine in Canada. Because he is a doctor in Turkey does not mean he can practice his profession here right away. He will have to apply to the regulatory body, he will be required to write exams, and he will need to do his residency (internship). I have 2 family friends that are doctors in Canada (previously one was a cardiologist in Egypt (now a family doctor in Calgary) and one was an oncologist in Egypt and now after 4 years finishing her residency in a hospital in northern Canada).

 

[screech339]

Chill out everyone! I'm not going to have a child without considering the responsible care needed.

Back on topic, please.

My husband is a doctor, which is why I feel critical of the flaws in the system.

I just wanted to understand if I was expected to stretch social services to an extreme, rather than having my willing and able, educated and licensed husband working a high-level career which would make enough money to take care of both of us.

So back to the topic:

In hopes of not having a rejected application, is it best to apply from Turkey, and stay in Turkey until some work approval comes across? This is what it sounds like. At what stage in the 16-month process does the permission to work become available?

If you plan on doing the sponsorship from turkey, your husband will be able to work in Canada once he lands in Canada. At no time can he work in Canada prior to the end of the sponsorship process. The only way he can work in Canada is by applying for work visa through LMO if he wishes to work in Canada before he lands.

One of my question I like to ask is this. Will your husband's medical university credential be accepted in the medical association in Canada. He may be required to attend more university courses and/or take residency before his medical degree become accepted by medical association. He has to apply for a provincial medical license to practice in one of the provinces. Something to think about here.

In short, I think you will have a bit of a financial hardship at first once your husband lands, either if you went the outland or inland approach. Your husband will not be able to work in his medical field right away thus you will have to come up with some financial support while your husband attends medical training / residency until he can fully be allowed to practice medicine.

Screech339

 

[Brigitteisveryspecial]

Don't worry about the doctor bit -but thanks so much for making sure I don't have additional pitfalls on the way.

We have well-researched the area of work he is in, and he will be switching to something more academic, not surgery.

I am however, interested in the two Egyptian doctors mentioned above! That is an area we will be tackling once we get our Canada life started.

 

[MofC2014]

Don't worry about the doctor bit -but thanks so much for making sure I don't have additional pitfalls on the way.

We have well-researched the area of work he is in, and he will be switching to something more academic, not surgery.

I am however, interested in the two Egyptian doctors mentioned above! That is an area we will be tackling once we get our Canada life started.

PM me if you have any questions as to the steps they took here in Canada. Anyone trained out of the country, can be successful, it takes hard work and commitment, but everything is possible My friend is now very successful in Canada, he opened his own clinic in Calgary in partnership with 2 other doctors, along with the family practice he is also a doctor on staff in a hospital and is a clinical lecturer at the university. My other friend, she worked as a family doctor, but had to take a leave of absence 2 years ago due to her own health problems, and is currently undergoing cancer treatment.