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Canada Inter company WP - Will it yield any points in Express pool application?

CAPRasiprer

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Jul 19, 2014
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Hi,

Unfortunately, I don't have score >400, thus not sure basis new rule if my employer starts Intercompany WP, will that help me any points?

Also if my spouse gives IELTS, how much many points will it help?

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sivasagi

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CAPRasiprer said:
Hi,

Unfortunately, I don't have score >400, thus not sure basis new rule if my employer starts Intercompany WP, will that help me any points?

You will get extra 50 pts only after you complete 1 year on that closed WP.

Also if my spouse gives IELTS, how much many points will it help? Use the below calculator
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp


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DelPiero07

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Oct 2, 2016
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Yes, you would get 50 or 200 points after working for a full year with that employer and IF you have a valid job offer.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp
 

CAPRasiprer

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Jul 19, 2014
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Thanks, do I need to wait for a year to get those points or I can avail as soon I get WP? Also when you say valid job offer to get the points Will closed WP will help?
 

DelPiero07

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CAPRasiprer said:
Thanks, do I need to wait for a year to get those points or I can avail as soon I get WP? Also when you say valid job offer to get the points Will closed WP will help?
Please read the link that I posted above.

Yes, you have to work for a year in order to claim those points and yes, your work permit must be employer-specific (closed work permit).
 

last_try

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Feb 14, 2017
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DelPiero07,

Is the job offer mandatory to get 50/200 points. My company gives an offer during canada assignment and during extension (for 1 year) they give contract extension letter. at any point of time, the contract extension letter (and WP) will be valid for less than 1 year. Does that enough to get 50/200 points. Or, there needs to be explicit offer letter stating that there will be 1 year of employment after getting PR. I read somewhere that it was either of options a or b. in option a, they didnt mention about 1 year offer letter after PR for intra company transfer. Kindly advice.
 

DelPiero07

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last_try said:
DelPiero07,

Is the job offer mandatory to get 50/200 points. My company gives an offer during canada assignment and during extension (for 1 year) they give contract extension letter. at any point of time, the contract extension letter (and WP) will be valid for less than 1 year. Does that enough to get 50/200 points. Or, there needs to be explicit offer letter stating that there will be 1 year of employment after getting PR. I read somewhere that it was either of options a or b. in option a, they didnt mention about 1 year offer letter after PR for intra company transfer. Kindly advice.
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"A valid job offer has to be:

made by one employer
for continuous, paid, full-time work (at least 30 hours a week),
for work that is:
for at least one year after we issue your permanent resident visa
not seasonal
not on a contract basis, and
in a job that is Skill Type 0, or Skill Levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)"

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp]
 

last_try

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Thanks DelPiero. I was referring the below. In some other form the below was pasted and they thanked you. Based on the below option a, 1 year is not mandatory. Only option b calls out of 1 year of job offer after PR is granted. My understanding/interpretation is based on it.. is it wrong? Kindly advice.

As per the Canada Gazette Ministerial Instructions Amending the Ministerial Instructions Respecting the Express Entry System, 2016-1. It says either (a) or (b).

Qualifying offer of arranged employment
(2) A qualifying offer of employment is one of the following:

(a) an arranged employment as defined in subsection 82(1) of the Regulations, if
(i) the offer is supported by a valid assessment — provided by the Department of Employment and Social Development at the request of the employer or an officer and on the same basis as an assessment provided for the issuance of a work permit — that the requirements set out in subsection 203(1) of the Regulations with respect to the offer have been met,
(ii) the foreign national holds a valid work permit, the offer of employment is made by an employer for whom the foreign national currently works and who is specified on the work permit, the work permit was issued based on a positive determination made by an officer under subsection 203(1) of the Regulations with respect to the foreign national’s employment with that employer in an occupation that is listed in Skill Type 0 Management Occupations or Skill Level A or B of the National Occupational Classification matrix and the assessment provided by the Department of Employment and Social Development on the basis of which the determination was made is not suspended or revoked, or
(iii) the foreign national holds a valid work permit issued under the circumstances described in paragraph 204(a) or (c) or section 205 of the Regulations, the offer is made by an employer who is specified on the work permit and the foreign national works for that employer and has accumulated at least one year of full-time work experience, or the equivalent in part-time work, over a continuous period of work for that employer;

(b) an offer of continuous full-time employment for a total duration of at least one year from the day on which a permanent resident visa is issued in a skilled trade occupation as defined in subsection 87.2(1) of the Regulations that is made to the foreign national by up to two employers, neither of which is an embassy, high commission or consulate in Canada or an employer referred to in any of subparagraphs 200(3)(h)(i) to (iii) of the Regulations if
(i) the offer is supported by a valid assessment — provided by the Department of Employment and Social Development at the request of one or two employers or an officer and on the same basis as an assessment provided for the issuance of a work permit — that the requirements set out in subsection 203(1) of the Regulations with respect to the offer have been met,
(ii) the foreign national holds a valid work permit, the offer is made by up to two employers who are specified on the work permit, the foreign national currently works for one of those employers, the work permit was issued on the basis of a positive determination by an officer under subsection 203(1) of the Regulations with respect to their employment with their current employer, the assessment by the Department of Employment and Social Development on which the determination is based is not revoked or suspended, and the offer is in a skilled trade occupation that is in the same minor group set out in the National Occupational Classification as the occupation specified on the work permit, or
(iii) the foreign national holds a valid work permit issued under the circumstances described in paragraph 204(a) or (c) or section 205 of the Regulations that specifies the employer or employers that made the offer, and the foreign national works for an employer specified on the permit and has accumulated a total of at least one year of full-time work experience, or the equivalent in part-time work, over a continuous period of work for the employers who made the offer.
 

DelPiero07

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"job offers now must be for at least one year, instead of permanent"

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/offer.asp

Is that clear enough?
 

CasioLottoMax

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Feb 2, 2017
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hi, what is the situation if you received your ITA on 16th Nov which is before the introduction of the new "rules" on 19th Nov?

If your ITA and e-apr is based on the conditions in place on 16th No is your job offer fine to show "permanent" or does it need to be updated into "minimum one year" ?
 

last_try

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hi, what is the situation if you received your ITA on 16th Nov which is before the introduction of the new "rules" on 19th Nov?
-- 16th Nov
If your ITA and e-apr is based on the conditions in place on 16th No is your job offer fine to show "permanent" or does it need to be updated into "minimum one year" ?
-- That's ok. Permanent is lot better than min 1 year.
 

CAPRasiprer

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Jul 19, 2014
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Will Intercompany WP doesn't qualify for 50/200 points?

It also has an offer letter from the firm subsidiary in Canada!!!
 

CAPRasiprer

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Jul 19, 2014
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Any suggestions? if Intra company WP will yield any points as soon they get granted, reason I'm confused is if CIC needs a valid Job offer, then intracompany WP also issues a job letter, it might be different that that may be LMIA exempted (as those are intracompany)
 

thinkshady

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CAPRasiprer said:
Any suggestions? if Intra company WP will yield any points as soon they get granted, reason I'm confused is if CIC needs a valid Job offer, then intracompany WP also issues a job letter, it might be different that that may be LMIA exempted (as those are intracompany)
Read this thread, it will help you further.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/anyone-got-ppr-who-applied-with-50-additional-point-ict-cec-inland-t481071.0.html