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Can someone apply for ee if experience is in a different noc than education?

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Its for a friend, all work experience is in a total different field than education

Can he apply?
And which noc to choose, education or work?
 

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From what I know, I did my Masters in Electrical engineering and will be applying for NOC 2174 which is Computer programmer for I have worked in the IT industry for 5+ years. Other members can contribute but I read it somewhere that your NOC should match your work experience.
 

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Yes you can. There is no limit or restrictions on the NOC and the degree obtained. They do not have to be related.
 

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Thank you both so much
 

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No. There are no restrictions but it must still make sense. A crane operator cannot be a surgeon for example.
Can you please elaborate on your friend's education and experience.
 

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Studied law
3 years foreign experience in IT or software engineering something like that

Is that fine?
 

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in my opinion i don't think this will work . Law Degree and IT field are two separate things(unless its an entry level IT occupation ) . but i could be wrong
 

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OMG_Chakromakro said:
in my opinion i don't think this will work . Law Degree and IT field are two separate things(unless its an entry level IT occupation ) . but i could be wrong
I studied computer science but worked as a retail supervisor in Canada...
 

aneelkanth

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kryt0n said:
I studied computer science but worked as a retail supervisor in Canada...
Your case is acceptable my friend. You have technical expertise from your education that qualifies you for non-technical and technical work.

In OP's case; his friend studied law and worked as a software engineer. It will be very hard to claim a software eng. or similar NOC
 

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aneelkanth said:
This is acceptable my friend. You have technical expertise from your education that qualifies you for non-technical and technical work.

In OP's case; his friend studied law and worked as a software engineer. It will be very hard to claim a software eng. or similar NOC
Why would it be hard? There is no rule that requires you have to work in a NOC that is related to your study. As long as your NOC belongs to NOC 0, A and B you are eligible to apply.
 

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yeah but you don't need a degree/qualification for being a retail supervisor do you ? i did a diploma for computer networks and have worked at gas stations and it would be stupid if i show experience as a gas attendant in EE .did you apply through LMIA ?
 

aneelkanth

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Alexios07 said:
Why would it be hard? There is no rule that requires you have to work in a NOC that is related to your study. As long as your NOC belongs to NOC 0, A and B you are eligible to apply.

So based on what you are suggesting; a person can have a bachelors/masters in business and apply under let's say NOC 2111 as a physicist.
Well as I mentioned earlier it would be hard to make such a claim and the decision will be solely on the officer discretion.

It has happened here in the past that applicants were rejected based on NOC and the officer's letter specified "lack of relevant education required for this skilled work experience"
 

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aneelkanth said:
So based on what you are suggesting; a person can have a bachelors/masters in business and apply under let's say NOC 2111 as a physicist.
Well as I mentioned earlier it would be hard to make such a claim and the decision will be solely on the officer discretion.

It has happened here in the past that applicants were rejected based on NOC and the officer's letter specified "lack of relevant education required for this skilled work experience"
Of course, to claim work exp for a job not related from your study, it needs to make sense, especially like Physicist, doctor or rocket scientist. IT or software/web dev, on the other hand, can be self-taught.

If you can prove to IRCC that you have the essential skills and knowledge to perform the job you have. Again, there is no rule preventing you from working in a NOC differs from your study.
 

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dan_and said:
So much wrong information in this thread. CIC explicitly states that you do not need to meet the education requirements of the NOC. You absolutely can have a law degree and work in IT.

"In addition, during that period of employment, the applicant must have

performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(b)]; and
performed a substantial number of the main duties, including all of the essential duties, of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(c)].

Note: The applicant does not need to demonstrate that they meet the “employment requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description."


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/econ/fsw/minimum.asp
Thank you so much for the useful info.
 

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dan_and said:
So much wrong information in this thread. CIC explicitly states that you do not need to meet the education requirements of the NOC. You absolutely can have a law degree and work in IT.

"In addition, during that period of employment, the applicant must have

performed the actions described in the lead statement for the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(b)]; and
performed a substantial number of the main duties, including all of the essential duties, of the occupation as set out in the occupational description of the NOC [R75(2)(c)].

Note: The applicant does not need to demonstrate that they meet the “employment requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description."


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/econ/fsw/minimum.asp
This is 100% true. But it is also true that if the VO has any reason to disbelieve that you are capable of performing the work you claimed, they can, and do, refuse applications.

In the OP's (friend's) case - a lot of people are self-taught in IT / software development. So it doesn't matter that the degree is not in IT.

However - imagine the other way around - a degree in IT but claiming to be a lawyer... that would not work. At all. That would in fact be fraud in most countries.