Can electrical engineer apply

[ali786leo]

Every country have different critriea for recuirtment in any field but how can VO neglect OP6 this statment not take into account whether the applicant meets the “Employment requirements” description set forth in the NOC for the occupation(s) listed (R80(3));.

I have PM senior of this forum and below is the conversation and their replies
Dear Ali Bhai,

MSMirza
I don't think that the Visa Officer will reject you because of the reason that you do not have Trade Certificate, if your Job Description matches all the duties in the NOC code then im sure there will be no problem and Insha Allah you will be successful.

Hi Ali,

No employment requirement is not necessary for all NOC's only few those like Doctors, lawyers who need to have the degree to recognized as a doctor etc. This is why i say that its not mandatory to have a degree in the same field, as long as you have 1 yr experience you can apply without having any specific degree related to that job.


Leon
Hello, you have to look at the NOC description at http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/Profile.aspx?val=7&val1=7216 and see if there is a fairly good match with your job duties. As for the employment requirements, it does say you need to be a journeyman in a relevant trade but they may let it slide if the job duties fit. A lot of things are at the discretion of the visa officer.

If it says they will not take into account if CIO has approved, then they will not refuse for that reason

 

[wilson]

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Re: Can electrical engineer apply
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 02:49:46 pm »
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Hello. Please help me.

Can I apply if I have been working as a construction electrician for 1 year. I previously worked as a electrician estimator.
Please note I don't have any diploma related to electrician field. I have bachelor degree in accounting.
Thank you in advance.

Hi, According to HRSDC,Canada:

7242 Industrial Electricians

Industrial electricians install, maintain, test, troubleshoot and repair industrial electrical equipment and associated electrical and electronic controls. They are employed by electrical contractors and maintenance departments of factories, plants, mines, shipyards and other industrial establishments.

Example Titles
electrician, shipyard
industrial electrician
industrial electrician apprentice
marine electrician
mill electrician
mine electrician
plant electrician
plant maintenance electrician



Main duties

Industrial electricians perform some or all of the following duties:

Read and interpret drawings, blueprints, schematics and electrical code specifications to determine layout of industrial electrical equipment installations
Install, examine, replace or repair electrical wiring, receptacles, switch boxes, conduits, feeders, fibre-optic and coaxial cable assemblies, lighting fixtures and other electrical components
Test electrical and electronic equipment and components for continuity, current, voltage and resistance
Maintain, repair, install and test switchgear, transformers, switchboard meters, regulators and reactors
Maintain, repair, test and install electrical motors, generators, alternators, industrial storage batteries and hydraulic and pneumatic electrical control systems
Troubleshoot, maintain and repair industrial, electrical and electronic control systems and other related devices
Conduct preventive maintenance programs and keep maintenance records
May install, maintain and calibrate industrial instrumentation and related devices.

Employment requirements

Completion of secondary school is usually required.

Completion of a four- or five-year industrial electrician apprenticeship program
or
A combination of over five years of work experience in the trade and some high school, college or industry courses in industrial electrical equipment is usually required to be eligible for trade certification.

Trade certification for industrial electricians is compulsory in Prince Edward Island, Quebec and the Yukon, and available, but voluntary, in Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Ontario and Manitoba.

Interprovincial trade certification (Red Seal) is also available to qualified industrial electricians.

Trade certification for marine electricians is available, but voluntary, in New Brunswick.

Trade certification for mine electricians is available, but voluntary, in Nova Scotia

 

[ali786leo]

216 Contractors and Supervisors, Mechanic Trades
This unit group includes heating, refrigeration, air conditioning, millwrighting and elevator installation trade contractors who own and operate their own businesses. This group also includes supervisors who supervise and co-ordinate the activities of workers classified in unit groups within the following minor groups: Machinery and Transportation Equipment Mechanics (Except Motor Vehicle) (731), Automotive Service Technicians (732) and Other Mechanics (733). They are employed in a wide range of establishments; places of employment are indicated in the unit group descriptions.

Example Titles
contractor, heating systems
foreman/woman, air conditioning and refrigeration mechanics
foreman/woman, aircraft mechanics and inspectors
foreman/woman, electrical mechanics
foreman/woman, heating systems mechanics
foreman/woman, heavy-duty equipment mechanics
foreman/woman, printing machine repairers
foreman/woman, railway car repairers
foreman/woman, railway equipment maintenance inspectors
foreman/woman, textile machine mechanics
supervisor, aircraft maintenance engineers (AME)
supervisor, appliance repair shop
supervisor, industrial mechanics
supervisor, motor vehicle repair shop
supervisor, small-engine repair shop

View all titles

Main duties
Contractors and supervisors in this unit group perform some or all of the following duties:

* Supervise, co-ordinate and schedule the activities of workers who repair and maintain aircraft, railway locomotives and cars, industrial machinery and equipment, construction and other heavy equipment, textile equipment, printing machines, heating equipment and furnaces, transformers and other electrical equipment, motor vehicles, air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment, electric appliances and other equipment, such as motorcycles, outboard motors and snowmobiles
* Establish methods to meet work schedules and co-ordinate work activities with other departments
* Requisition materials and supplies
* Resolve work problems and recommend work measures to improve productivity
* Train or arrange for training of workers
* Recommend personnel actions such as hiring and promotions
* Ensure that standards for safe working conditions are observed
* Prepare production and other reports
* May manage the operations of own company
* May also supervise, co-ordinate and schedule the activities of related apprentices, helpers and labourers.

Employment requirements

* Completion of secondary school is usually required.

* Several years of experience as a qualified tradesperson in a relevant trade are usually required.

* Journeyman/woman trade certification in a relevant trade is required
Hi, According to HRSDC,Canada:

7242 Industrial Electricians

Industrial electricians install, maintain, test, troubleshoot and repair industrial electrical equipment and associated electrical and electronic controls. They are employed by electrical contractors and maintenance departments of factories, plants, mines, shipyards and other industrial establishments.

Example Titles
electrician, shipyard
industrial electrician
industrial electrician apprentice
marine electrician
mill electrician
mine electrician
plant electrician
plant maintenance electrician



Main duties

Industrial electricians perform some or all of the following duties:

Read and interpret drawings, blueprints, schematics and electrical code specifications to determine layout of industrial electrical equipment installations
Install, examine, replace or repair electrical wiring, receptacles, switch boxes, conduits, feeders, fibre-optic and coaxial cable assemblies, lighting fixtures and other electrical components
Test electrical and electronic equipment and components for continuity, current, voltage and resistance
Maintain, repair, install and test switchgear, transformers, switchboard meters, regulators and reactors
Maintain, repair, test and install electrical motors, generators, alternators, industrial storage batteries and hydraulic and pneumatic electrical control systems
Troubleshoot, maintain and repair industrial, electrical and electronic control systems and other related devices
Conduct preventive maintenance programs and keep maintenance records
May install, maintain and calibrate industrial instrumentation and related devices.

Employment requirements

Completion of secondary school is usually required.

Completion of a four- or five-year industrial electrician apprenticeship program
or
A combination of over five years of work experience in the trade and some high school, college or industry courses in industrial electrical equipment is usually required to be eligible for trade certification.

Trade certification for industrial electricians is compulsory in Prince Edward Island, Quebec and the Yukon, and available, but voluntary, in Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Ontario and Manitoba.

Interprovincial trade certification (Red Seal) is also available to qualified industrial electricians.

Trade certification for marine electricians is available, but voluntary, in New Brunswick.

Trade certification for mine electricians is available, but voluntary, in Nova Scotia
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[iceboyz]

if he can show strong industrial/vendor training then I think he can apply.

How can I show that I have a strong industrial/vendor training?

 

[jnathan]

iceboyz

only by dragging the past and doing trainings, getting certified.
But I guess we cant go back to our past.

 

[ali786leo]

janathan
every country has different system some doing exp, some trainning etc.

iceboyz

only by dragging the past and doing trainings, getting certified.
But I guess we cant go back to our past.
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[iceboyz]

What would you guys do being in my situation: apply now or wait until getting 2 year of experience as an electrician?

What do you suggest?

 

[jnathan]

if you score 67 then you can apply but I shouldnt say you should apply.
cases like your's largely depend on the minds of the VO's.
I'd still say , you better apply.
who knows after 2 years your NOC might not be in the list.

 

[iceboyz]

I score 68 (I have brother in Canada).
I can get a paper form the university that I am enrolling in part time program "Electrical engineer". however the guide says not to submit other documents that mentioned on the check list.

Do you think they will take into consideration that paper from the university?
What do you advice?

 

[ali786leo]

I agree with my janathan
its all depend on visa officer but I have if the application approves from CIO then will go to visa can they refuse on that point that qualification did not matches with ur experience.
if you score 67 then you can apply but I shouldnt say you should apply.
cases like your's largely depend on the minds of the VO's.
I'd still say , you better apply.
who knows after 2 years your NOC might not be in the list.

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[jnathan]

iceboyz

you can do that but as I said, you should apply now rather than thinking for applying at a later time; as I could see you scored over 67 its time for you to pull the trigger.

 

[iceboyz]

I got you point guys.

It would be great for me to hear people who already gone through with one tear of experience from some profession without special education.

I better threat a new threat for it in the forum with hope to get some responses.

 

[jnathan]

what's your Visa Office?
you can do that ya.

 

[ali786leo]

are u starting a new threat

I got you point guys.

It would be great for me to hear people who already gone through with one tear of experience from some profession without special education.

I better threat a new threat for it in the forum with hope to get some responses.
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[iceboyz]

what's your Visa Office?

It is Kiev visa office.