CAIRO VISA OFFICE

[mr.x]

Can any of the recent applicants of the Cairo visa office tell me whether Mississauga -after the sponsorship approval- send the files to Cairo or to Ottawa pilot project .

some time it transfer to cairo office and some time to ottawa

 

[Dr Eng X]

Can any of the recent applicants of the Cairo visa office tell me whether Mississauga -after the sponsorship approval- send the files to Cairo or to Ottawa pilot project .

some time it transfer to cairo office and some time to ottawa

I believe we (he) know(s) this well. We (recent applicants) would like to see if they are still doing that or not. We can only know from recent applicant or officials

 

[shamsuannahr]

Can any of the recent applicants of the Cairo visa office tell me whether Mississauga -after the sponsorship approval- send the files to Cairo or to Ottawa pilot project .

I'm not expecting to hear back on our application transfer until around April 29th, if the 55 days is accurate, but I'll post to the forum when I hear something to let this group know what Mississauga did with our file.

I came back to Canada in January to save some money/start the sponsorship, and only have one month left before I get to go back to Cairo to spend the summer with my husband. The wait has been killing us and I CAN'T WAIT to see him again. (For those of you who have had to wait much longer, I don't know how you do it!! So much respect to you.) Had to share/vent. : D

 

[bondar]

dont worry i got what she mean and we are fine about it .... any way , where is mohamed ?
how come he didn't call or go online ?
tell him i said hi ( ahmed elkasas )

I'm glad everything is fine now. Mohamed is great thank you for asking he is in school full time and is enjoying it. I have just bbm him and told him that you have asked about him. Inshallah you guys will talk soon. I hope everything is going well for you and inshallah you will be here soon. Will you be in Ottawa too?

 

[Dr Eng X]

The Canadian Embassy in Cairo



Those who check the website of the Ministry of Immigration and Citizenship will see lots of images for smiling people including an image of a smiling Muslim woman wearing the traditional headscarf. But many of those who had to deal with the visa section of the Canadian embassy in Cairo know that there is absolutely nothing to smile about! Your experience with the embassy will only leave you feeling humiliated, insulted, and angry.

Many Egyptians have to apply for a temporary visitor visa to visit their family members in Canada for one reason or another. Canada is home to around 300,000 Egyptian Canadians.

It is only natural that many parents would like to visit their children. In other cases, someone is having a surgery or going through tough health time and needs a family member to arrive from Egypt. In other cases, young children would like to visit their cousins in Canada and spend some time with them. In all these cases, the relative in Canada initiates the process by sending an invitation letter in which he vows to cover all the expenses of the visiting family member.

The first thing to get such a visa is to fill an application and attach to it a money order. You are not usually allowed to enter the embassy. Egyptians are left to line up in the street under temperature as high as 50 Celsius for hours. An embassy employee picks the paper and the money order and tells you that you will hear from them soon. In most cases, the next thing you get is a rejection letter with no logical reason. You are not allowed to speak to anyone on why you were rejected. The only thing you can do is apply again and pay that same substantial amount of money one more time only to get another illogical rejection!

Some of these cases really make you feel angry. One such a case is that of a woman who has a daughter and is expecting twins. She suffers from a medical condition and she needs her mother to arrive in Canada to take care of her and her kids while she recovers from the delivery. She attached a note of her medical condition to the invitation letter. Her mother got rejected for no logical reason. In that specific case, the MP representing her riding was able to have the embassy reverse their abusive decision through his contacts. Many were not so lucky.

Another case is for another woman who needed her parents to be with her during her delivery. She has 3 children and is about to deliver the 4th. Her husband is a busy person and may not be available for a long time. So they invited her parents to visit them vowing to cover all expenses. Her parents visited Canada before with no problem.

Unfortunately, they got also rejected for no reason. Her parents are relatively wealthy and they proved proof of their assets in Egypt. The husband tried to get his MP's help. The MP sent several communications to the embassy but they simply ignored him. This family do not know how to take care of the three kids until the mother is home again and capable of caring for them. The wife simply feels angry and betrayed by our Canadian embassy in Cairo.

In the past, Egyptians who held a visa to the US would get the Canadian visa easily. The US does not give its visa without carefully checking every applicant.

Only recently, having a US visa became a reason for rejecting an application for a Canadian visa!

An Egyptian woman who works for an American company in Egypt wanted to visit her brother who is a Canadian citizen. She has a multiple entry visa to the US as she routinely travels to the US to visit the company branch there. She got rejected recently for no reason. The immigration officer indicated in the letter that she was rejected because of the US visa! She was given no chance to understand what this means. The same story was repeated with many who applied for a Canadian visa while holding a US visa.

Even spouses of Canadian citizens did not escape this abuse. A Canadian woman married to an Egyptian man wanted to visit Canada with her husband and spend some time with her brother who is a Canadian citizen. The embassy denied him visa because he “holds no sufficient ties to Egypt”. He showed them that he have a prominent job and have a large sum of money in Egyptian banks in addition to owning an expensive condominium. This all did not matter to the embassy officials.

This abuse also extends to visitors who are entitled to student visas. One Egyptian lady received a scholarship from a Canadian university. The university, in the admission letter, vowed to pay her a sufficient income to live and study. In the past, she would get her student visa immediately. This woman was rejected 4 times! Every time, she had to pay the same application processing fee to get an illogical rejection.

One time she managed to meet the agent and asked her why she was rejected. The agent responded by yelling at her and kicking her out! This Muslim woman who wears a headscarf was about to pay the fees for the 5th time when a nice employee in the embassy recognized her face and asked her why is she there again for the 5th time. She informed him of what happened. He then advised her not to apply that week and wait for one more week until some of the embassy employees who are known for abusing certain applicants will go on vacation! She did exactly that and she received the visa.

The most interesting part is that Egyptians who are residents of other countries receive the Canadian visa in a normal way when they apply from their country of residence. I am aware of many cases where Egyptians living in Saudi Arabia or Kuwait for example were able to get a temporary visitor visa to visit relatives in Canada. It seems that the issue is only localized to the Canadian embassy in Cairo. The applications for immigration to Canada seem to be also processed in a normal way. It is only the temporary visitor visas that have been almost completely blocked!

I call on the minister of Immigration and Citizenship to investigate the abuse of power in the Canadian embassy in Cairo. This issue is very serious because of its social impact. Many complaints were received by Canadian MPs and by provincial governments. This issue can simply escalate into a full blown diplomatic conflict between the two countries given the accusations of discrimination and humiliation. I call on Mr. Jason Kenney to show that the Canadian government does not target Egyptian Canadians and that Canada is indeed friendly to the people of Egypt.

P.S. I can connect anyone interested to many of the families whose loved ones were subject to this abuse in Egypt.

Hi Ana_Mo
The guys are submiting a petition I know that you have passed this stage but we are looking for your legal assistance.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/january-2012-applicants-join-here-t92925.1395.html

I am sure a lot of others will appreciate your help and assistance...

 

[mroliveland]

This explains everything:

We were concerned about this practice of allowing unauthorized staff to finalize applications because the staff involved did not have the legal authority to make the decisions and had not received any certification or training from the International Region. We were also concerned about the extent of this practice that not only involved 1,160 visitor applications in 2003, but had taken place over previous years. We observed that the IPM and one of the locally engaged officers were located on another floor away from the visitor processing staff they were supervising. We also noted that Canada-based officers only made two percent of all visitor decisions in 2003. This suggests that the Canada-based officers had a low involvement in the non-immigrant program as a whole.

The IPM informed us that the processing of visitor visa applications by non-authorized staff stemmed from a lack of resources in peak periods. She communicated proposals to strengthen the visitor program with the International Region through the annual Immigrant Management Plan process. From our analysis, we agreed with the IPM's conclusion that for current output to be maintained, the program may need additional resources. The IPM reported that in Summer 2004, Canada-based and locally engaged officers became more involved in the non-immigrant program, and that her request for a third Canada-based officer had been granted.




http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/audit/cairo.asp

 

[Dr Eng X]

This explains everything:

We were concerned about this practice of allowing unauthorized staff to finalize applications because the staff involved did not have the legal authority to make the decisions and had not received any certification or training from the International Region. We were also concerned about the extent of this practice that not only involved 1,160 visitor applications in 2003, but had taken place over previous years. We observed that the IPM and one of the locally engaged officers were located on another floor away from the visitor processing staff they were supervising. We also noted that Canada-based officers only made two percent of all visitor decisions in 2003. This suggests that the Canada-based officers had a low involvement in the non-immigrant program as a whole.

The IPM informed us that the processing of visitor visa applications by non-authorized staff stemmed from a lack of resources in peak periods. She communicated proposals to strengthen the visitor program with the International Region through the annual Immigrant Management Plan process. From our analysis, we agreed with the IPM's conclusion that for current output to be maintained, the program may need additional resources. The IPM reported that in Summer 2004, Canada-based and locally engaged officers became more involved in the non-immigrant program, and that her request for a third Canada-based officer had been granted.




http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/audit/cairo.asp

Thanks where is Ana_Mo?

 

[sonia5555]

hello..please it's so urgent...after my husband apply to me in canada since 7 months...and after we passed wz all steps and it has been done ...csq...medical...proofs..for a reason or another me and my hubby had disappointment and he send emails t ott_pilot..and embassy say to stop processing my file as he will divorce me...and then we returned back b4 divorce...so he send another email in the next day rightaway explain the situation and ask to make my file going as ordinary and apologize..so anyone have any idea what they gonna do?and my case is (IN PROCESS)

 

[Dr Eng X]

hello..please it's so urgent...after my husband apply to me in canada since 7 months...and after we passed wz all steps and it has been done ...csq...medical...proofs..for a reason or another me and my hubby had disappointment and he send emails t ott_pilot..and embassy say to stop processing my file as he will divorce me...and then we returned back b4 divorce...so he send another email in the next day rightaway explain the situation and ask to make my file going as ordinary and apologize..so anyone have any idea what they gonna do?and my case is (IN PROCESS)

I am not 100% sure. But I am sorry to say "It is not a game one day OK and the very next day he divorces you!! The agreement that you both signed is binding. Once he was accepted as a sponsor you both can NOT go back. The whole thing depends at which stage you are. For example if you are given a Visa then all this non sense is worthless!
See my previous response to your

hello everybody...um new user here i have a very urgent question which anyone help me as um egyptian my husband is canadian and he made me the sponsership to immigrate to him and for some reasons we broke up and he divorced me in the same time i took the visa...so do i have chance to go canada or it is considred refused pease any one help me?

 

[Dr Eng X]

Here it is

You can go to Canada, the sponsorship process is over and apparantly he got approved as you have your Visa (not only this but your immigration application is approved as well). You both have signed an agreement at the begining of the process so techniquely you are sponsored by him. The agreement is binding for 3 years (before the recent change).

 

[mroliveland]

If the problems and disputes have started before moving to Canada, I can only imagine how will be your situation with him there. To send such an email to the immigration reflects lack of good judgment and very moody mentality. I cannot stay with such a person, if I were you. If you are considering moving to Canada regardless of the consequences, I think you can go as long as your visa has been issued and it is on your passport. Remember that if you go on welfare, he has to pay the government all the money because of the sponsorship undertaking he signed.

 

[sonia5555]

If the problems and disputes have started before moving to Canada, I can only imagine how will be your situation with him there. To send such an email to the immigration reflects lack of good judgment and very moody mentality. I cannot stay with such a person, if I were you. If you are considering moving to Canada regardless of the consequences, I think you can go as long as your visa has been issued and it is on your passport. Remember that if you go on welfare, he has to pay the government all the money because of the sponsorship undertaking he signed.

ohhhh thank u so much for u and for dr eng x...
...but i want say that i didn't take my vise yet..and um dealing through Ott_pilote they are the office that my file processing into....
when my hubby send this email of cancelation...he sent it to cpc-missassuga...and also send another email apologize and give them admits that he sponsor me and that we solved the issue...

so he didn't send to embassy or to ott-pilot!!....we are now in a hot water really as we afraid to get refused it will be the death it self we are in this long distance since long ago...ohhh....can i send any email or i should to wait??

 

[mroliveland]

I don't think you can do anything at this point. Just wait and see they will consider it. CPC-M might forward the email to CPC-O or the embassy in Cairo so it is not an issue.

I hope that they will overlook it as long as he managed to fix it very well. It all depends on how he presented this dispute and why he divorced you in the beginning and what the things he or you did to solve the issue. I would just wait and see.

 

[mroliveland]

Since your file went to Ottawa, I wonder what was your timeline?

 

[sonia5555]

Since your file went to Ottawa, I wonder what was your timeline?

he didn't divorce me at all...only he told them he wants 2 withdraw the file as we WILL divorce me and the day next he resend another email apologize ..and i don't know wt does TIMELINE mean?