*BREAKING NEWS* - July 2011 = same 29 NOCs! 500 cap

[ADUFE]

Well it's certainly better news than CIC increasing the number of applications it is planning to take in.

Once they've processed the 10,000 July2011+ applications, and the remainder of the 13,800 June2010+ applications - what do you expect them to do for the rest of the year
a) Clear the backlog
b) Twiddle their thumbs



Wayne.

Well it would ave been better news for sure if they had decided to take the 10,000 applicants to be considered for the 2011-2012 visas from the Pre-June 2010 applicants with the in-demand occupations instead taking in yet more applications albeit greatly reduced. This will simply increase the already huge backlog no matter how relatively insignificantly.Besides, what exactly has changed for the Pre-june 2010 applicants since a similar ministerial instruction was issued in June 2010? Most of us were pushed aside to give way for the post June 26 applicants and based on the information given to those who sent CSQs at various visa offices around the world, it's going to take 2 years or more for their cases to be finalised.
Now, I wonder why that should be in light of the greatly reduced FSW applications CIC has received and will presumably receive in the future.Therefore, with regards to your last question, it's quite obvious that option "b" has always been what they've engaged in in the past,and based on the fact that past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour (to quote Dr. Phil, Lol!), there is no doubt that that is what they would most probably be doing in the future too!
Consequently, I really don't see how this new ministerial instruction is going to change things for the better anytime soon, though I stand to be proven wrong which, quite frankly, is exactly what I am praying for!

 

[SUSHMA NOMULA]

HI there, i applied last year and was returned my application form as it reached cic office after the cap was reached. When can i resend my application form? shall i wait unitl july 1st or shalli send my paper work before that. I have my ielts and other paper work ready. Please suggest. thanks

Sushma Nomula

 

[Cappuccino]

Well it would ave been better news for sure if they had decided to take the 10,000 applicants to be considered for the 2011-2012 visas from the Pre-June 2010 applicants with the in-demand occupations instead taking in yet more applications albeit greatly reduced. This will simply increase the already huge backlog no matter how relatively insignificantly.Besides, what exactly has changed for the Pre-june 2010 applicants since a similar ministerial instruction was issued in June 2010? Most of us were pushed aside to give way for the post June 26 applicants and based on the information given to those who sent CSQs at various visa offices around the world, it's going to take 2 years or more for their cases to be finalised.
Now, I wonder why that should be in light of the greatly reduced FSW applications CIC has received and will presumably receive in the future.Therefore, with regards to your last question, it's quite obvious that option "b" has always been what they've engaged in in the past,and based on the fact that past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour (to quote Dr. Phil, Lol!), there is no doubt that that is what they would most probably be doing in the future too!
Consequently, I really don't see how this new ministerial instruction is going to change things for the better anytime soon, though I stand to be proven wrong which, quite frankly, is exactly what I am praying for!

That's a very interesting point.

The problem is that those applications have been assessed against a completely different set of ministerial instructions. Do they have the resource to go through 144,000 applications and see which ones are eligible? Would you want to be the one to sit and manually go through 144,000 applications?

I guess they should be able to get some automated reports to say which applications are for NOCs which are still on the list.

To be honest - what I would do if I were in charge of CIC is completely remove Category 1, no more visas up front without a job. However, I would make it so that jobs in the 29 in-demand occupations are LMO exempt. This means that someone can get a job offer (without needing an LMO from HRDSC) and start working immediately and apply that way. This would work similary to the IT worker scheme which ran for a couple of years, but make it oriented towards permanent residence. This will mean that applicants automatically align with job market needs without this artificial 500 or 1000 per NOC which surely cannot be accurate (to say one NOC needs exactly the same as another 28 NOCs is ludicrous).

But then, what I would do is fairly irrelevant since I am not in charge of CIC

Wayne.

 

[thejackson]

Ladies and Gentlemen
This is indeed a good news. A wonderful news. I must congratulate CIC for taking the bulls by the horn. With only 10,000 applicants/application, Visa Office will then complete their quota from the PRE -JUNE 2010 and the PRE FEB 2008
Thus, if the quota for federal skilled workers is say 35, 000, from the 10000, 8500 might scaled through while the remaining number will be shared between those with job and the pre june 2010 and pre feb 2008

This is a wonderful news. CONGRATS CIC AND BRAVO MINISTER KENNY B

 

[jmora]

No changes @ sad news for IT people again .
OMM

where is that guy who claimed he was sure IT will be in the list?

 

[pittabread]

Dear All!

My analysis is they have limited the number of applicants to 10,000 as they have seen from the past that they can only decide 10,000 applications per year. So this is something to do with their own ease and benefit and will not have much impact on waiting applicants. However if they still get time besides these 10,000 applicants they will pay attention to older applicants. So there is nothing that is much applaudable or rejoicing here...........

This is my sole analysis.

Thanks

 

[anumatri]

This is a wonderful news

 

[Rising Flags]

Dear Cappuccino,

Did u get your DM before PPR ???

 

[Cappuccino]

Dear All!

My analysis is they have limited the number of applicants to 10,000 as they have seen from the past that they can only decide 10,000 applications per year. So this is something to do with their own ease and benefit and will not have much impact on waiting applicants. However if they still get time besides these 10,000 applicants they will pay attention to older applicants. So there is nothing that is much applaudable or rejoicing here...........

This is my sole analysis.

Thanks

Between February 2008 and June 2010, CIC had 144,000 FSW applications left out of the 425,000 they received during that period.

This means they processed around 281,000 over a period of 28 months = approx 10,000 per month.

This makes their annual FSW capacity about 120,000 - NOT 10,000, so I disagree. The 10,000 figure has nothing to do with their capacity but more to do with wanting to clear the backlog of 300,000 pre-June-2010 applications.

Wayne.

 

[jnathan]

Hi pittabread,

your guess does make sense but at the same time I couldnt be rock solid on the thoughts that they can only process 10,000 applications per year, if this was the case then they couldnt be able to process 70,000 cases in 2009-2010. they badly needed more $$$$ into their system from the PR applicants then.

CIC, Minister Kenny, parliament legislators got bombarded by petitions from the backlog applicants to make a decision and the agony applicants were having. Their bombardments have done the trick along with considering the LMO situation.

 

[Cappuccino]

Dear Cappuccino,

Did u get your DM before PPR ???

Yes I got decision made before PPR, although in all likelyhood the PPR are in the post.

Wayne.

 

[Rising Flags]

I got my PPR on 13-June-2011 by e-mail and DM shown at ECASE on 15-June-2011.
Normally it is unusual to receive DM before or immeidate after PPR, Standard pratice is people got DM after sending their orignal PPs to VO.
Is't.

 

[canadaforall]

500 means application to be accepted not visa to be granted.

I agree with you.

 

[Cappuccino]

I got my PPR on 13-June-2011 by e-mail and DM shown at ECASE on 15-June-2011.
Normally it is unusual to receive DM before or immeidate after PPR, Standard pratice is people got DM after sending their orignal PPs to VO.
Is't.

Well our PPRs could be in the post and we could be getting them on Monday.

The only London applicant post-June-2010 we know about to get PPR got his by snail mail, so don't think they'll be sending it by email. I may just depend on the individual visa officer of course. He got "Decision Made" after he got the PPR, but before he'd been to hand in the passports. So "Decision Made" isn't dependent on stamping the visa.

Wayne.

 

[Rising Flags]

From which country did you applied ?
Normally london VO return our passport in what time ??
Any guesses! it should be faster if DM is there with or before issuance of PPR !