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*BREAKING NEWS* - July 2011 = same 29 NOCs! 500 cap

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lakhvinder.kaur said:
As we all are taking it as a good news but I think, CIC really hasn't done very much. by lowering the cap to 10,000 is not as impressive as it seems, given that, according to its website, since last June 26th, fewer than 14,000 new files were received. In other words, the real increase for languishing applicants is less than 4,000 -- hardly enough to make a dent in the backlog and more importantly, the processing priority remains the same. Thus, those who apply from July 1st onward will be assessed first; then those who applied since last June 26th; then those who applied after 27 February 2007 and finally, those who applied before 27 February 2008. I doubt that the 4,000 spaces will get beyond those who applied since last June 26th.below the I prepared the projected data and it doesn't seem any good.Please have your say
What would be the value in assessing applications post-July-2011 first when the occupation list for post-June-2010 is exactly the same?

Wayne.
 

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Cappuccino said:
What would be the value in assessing applications post-July-2011 first when the occupation list for post-June-2010 is exactly the same?

Wayne.
yes may be they process post june applications at same priority but still backlog can not be eliminated by this ,as they(CIC) claimed that these steps are taken for reducing the backlog but by lowering 4000 app in a year will not improve the processing time for backlog.
 

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Cappuccino,

your thought does make sense. from the press release, CIC intended to clear the backlog. I hope they'd ponder on that.

They have issued around 70,000 visas from the year 2008-2011 January. so I think they have the capability. let us all see what happens.
 

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What would be the value in assessing applications post-July-2011 first when the occupation list for post-June-2010 is exactly the same?

Wayne.
i think what lakh saying might be true. it doesn't matter if the 29 noc list is same, all it matters is the new procedures. as they are saying the details will be given on 1st july, i, personally, think is they are also going to change with the instructions & of course the new point calculation system, and if it happens then they will be definitely giving priority to post july 2011 applicants. this is what my presumption is, and this is what that happened when new rules come after 26july2010.

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lamhey,

with 500 Cap for each nocs, everyone knows that only 3-4 NOC's made it to 1000 from June 2010-June 2011. This time round, the equation is easier than before, comparing to Post June 2011 files they will be half busy with the new applications to be coming to CIC from July 2011.
 

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lamhey,

with 500 Cap for each nocs, everyone knows that only 3-4 NOC's made it to 1000 from June 2010-June 2011. This time round, the equation is easier than before, comparing to Post June 2011 files they will be half busy with the new applications to be coming to CIC from July 2011.
hi,

u might be true, but i'm here talking about the priority. what im presuming is if the instructions and point calculation changes, they are going to give priority to post july 2011, regardless of NOC list.

lamhey
 

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lamhey said:
i think what lakh saying might be true. it doesn't matter if the 29 noc list is same, all it matters is the new procedures. as they are saying the details will be given on 1st july, i, personally, think is they are also going to change with the instructions & of course the new point calculation system, and if it happens then they will be definitely giving priority to post july 2011 applicants. this is what my presumption is, and this is what that happened when new rules come after 26july2010.

lamhey
yes its a possibility, if they alter the ielts, age and experience points for trade occupations then they can put post june,11 applications on priority.
 

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they have clearly mentioned that they will be eyeing most on clearing the backlog. but they havent said to what extent they'd work on clearing backlog, this is what we are waiting to see. we'll see the reflection of that by the forum members' posts.

Changes to economic immigration programs will help further reduce backlogs and improve wait times

what would they give priority to a mere 3000-4000 applicants from July 2011 . lol. VO's in all the missions have dealt with lots more of applications before in 2008-2010 in a single year.
 

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Hi guys I have read a lot of helpfull information and believe me most of my queries are answered already. however, I am applyin for AEO i recvd my aeo letter from HSRDC on november 2010 due to lack of experience im applyin in the month of july 2011 my category is 0631. so will the cap system effect me please reply.

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dreamer87 said:
Hi guys I have read a lot of helpfull information and believe me most of my queries are answered already. however, I am applyin for AEO i recvd my aeo letter from HSRDC on november 2010 due to lack of experience im applyin in the month of july 2011 my category is 0631. so will the cap system effect me please reply.

thank you.
No, AEO cases are exempted from cap.
 

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jnathan said:
they have clearly mentioned that they will be eyeing most on clearing the backlog. but they havent said to what extent they'd work on clearing backlog, this is what we are waiting to see. we'll see the reflection of that by the forum members' posts.

Changes to economic immigration programs will help further reduce backlogs and improve wait times

what would they give priority to a mere 3000-4000 applicants from July 2011 . lol. VO's in all the missions have dealt with lots more of applications before in 2008-2010 in a single year.
i might be misunderstood, but what i've learned upto now is even they say to reduce backlogs (& this is what they exactly said prior the MI II- just applied before 26june2010, & they did put all pre June2010 in backlog), they goona give priority to post july2011, and all the prior application will be backlogged, however will be tackled in the later days, only after the post july2011 application processing.

lamhey
 

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lamhey

youre right. however, with the new strict proposals coming in effect, they won't need to invest more than 20-40% of their capacity dealing with the new files. they will have ample time to deal with the backlog.
 

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lamhey said:
i might be misunderstood, but what i've learned upto now is even they say to reduce backlogs (& this is what they exactly said prior the MI II- just applied before 26june2010, & they did put all pre June2010 in backlog), they goona give priority to post july2011, and all the prior application will be backlogged, however will be tackled in the later days, only after the post july2011 application processing.

lamhey
I am with you on this, the same thing will happen this coming July 1st, all applicants on or after July 1st will be priortized as they will be under the recent MI-3, and both Pre and post June will be considered as backlog...however, post June will still be prioritized before pre June ( including me ). VO looks on the Minesterial Instruction not on the profession. Others might be right that there will be not much effect for clearing the Pre-June as they will be the 3rd on the list to be cleared, but, if you think lesser applicants ( minus 500 each ) for 3-4 occupations due to 500 cap, it will still be a potential positive effect for Pre-June as this will automatically eliminate 2000 applicants that will be on top of their applications. So, whatever angle we look at it, 10,000 applicants is better than 20,000 with regards to clearing the backlog. I JUST HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE TIME LEFT FOR THEM TO TOUCH PRE-JUNE APPLICATIONS.


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lamhey said:
hi,

u might be true, but i'm here talking about the priority. what im presuming is if the instructions and point calculation changes, they are going to give priority to post july 2011, regardless of NOC list.

lamhey
Presumably they will be consistent with their policy of processing applications based on the most recent set of ministerial instructions. so yes I would definitely imagine July 11 applications will have priority. To my mind it doesn't make sense but no surprises in that and that's why i don't expect any news on my application for at least another year.
 

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lloydnina and the fly,

they will actually give priority to the latest ministerial instructions and work on 10,000 capped slot but at the same time its true that they will not get more than 2000-3000 applicants this time from the reduced cap of 500 for each NOC. VO's around the world will soon be able to finish working on Post July 1, 2011 applicants and ponder on Pre June 2011 applicants ( dont forget a good number of this slot have already received their medicals and PPR requests).

So plenty to see in the next few months. i am expressing my speech in parallel with 'the fly', that i am not expecting anything to hear from CIC in the next one year or so. in January, 2011 I was told to wait for around 2 years in the letter issued by my VO; 6 months of which has already gone.

anyone got any idea whats the quota for PR visa issuance in each CHC's for 2011 June--2012 June?