Haha, completely agree , the heavily criticized citizen of convenience through PR- citizenship contributed at least 4 + years of taxes while living in Canada, and those citizen by descendent contribute nothing to Canada yet still want to get all the benefit of a Canadian passportCoffee1981 said:
Born outside Canada to CDN parent who was also born outside of Canada - Clarify?
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Hi, I agree with scylla. From the information you provided, I can't see how you and your cousins were Canadian citizens prior to April 17, 2009. If you and they were not, then none of you in the 2nd generation should have received citizenship certificates. Those who did are lucky that the citizenship officer apparently made a mistake, and if you/they question it, the decision could be reversed.Yazanm said:
If there is a reason that you think that you and your cousins were citizens before 2009, please let us know.
My father is sent his application-documents in Victoria BC for father`s birth certificate. And received a reply: We conducted two separate searches and were unable to locate a record for the birth event.
Please tell me what to do now?
Is possible to apply in embassy for Canadian proof of citizenship only with his Serbian birth certificate?
Because in that document has information that his father was born in Canada.
Please tell me what to do now?
Is possible to apply in embassy for Canadian proof of citizenship only with his Serbian birth certificate?
Because in that document has information that his father was born in Canada.
I think you need a Canadian document that proves your grandfather was born in Canada if your father wants to have any chance of claiming citizenship.Cosmosis said:
My father got two different answers:alphazip said:
First answer: We have received your application and documents in our office on December 20, 2016, your file number is ............. We sent a letter to your address. We conducted two separate searches and were unable to locate a record for the birth event. I have attached a scan of the letter we have mailed out to you. When you receive it in the mail please review the checklist and ensure the information is correct, or call our customer service.
Second answer tommorow : You included your father’s birth and death certificates with your application, showing he was born and passed away in Serbia. As your father was not born in BC, and he did not pass away in BC, there is no document we can provide to you. We can only issue certificates if the birth or death occurred in BC. I will cancel your application and refund you the $27.00 you paid.
Very strange second answer. For both documents my father made official translate on english. Also on both documents: his serbian birth certificate and grandfather's serbian death certificate they could see their relative and that my grandfather was born in Vancouver in Canada. And my father isn't included father`s birth certificate, than his own!?
It was a big family. My grandfather had 3 brothers and 4 sisters. all of them were born in Vancouver. It's not possible that there's no any record...
I found record in Vancouver Public Library for my grandfaher's mother. She was caffe owner in Vancouver 1912.
Before I found record for my grand-grandfather on web site: Explore your family history at ELLIS ISLAND, he left Montenegro for the United States 1906.
Also before I found record for my father's uncle on web site: Veterans Affairs Canada. Canadian Virtual War Memory. In memory of Private. We have letter from house of commons, thanksgiving to our family.
Cumberland museum & archives found records in census of 1901 and in the BC directory of stating that 1916 that he lived 11km from Cumberland. The communites were connected through mining of coal.
Could you please help me what to do now to help my father to get a proof of citizenship?
Hello,
I am new to this forum and find this thread very helpful, since I think it describes my family circumstances.
I am a US citizen, female, born in the US to a Canadian-born father and a US-born mother. I am in the process of completing the application for a citizenship certificate, since I appear to qualify, according to the self-assessment tool on the government website.
My son got married this past summer in Canada to a Canadian woman. They are in the process of moving to Canada. (They had been living/working in Europe, where they met.) Is it likely that he is also eligible for citizenship by descent? If not, would my obtaining my own certificate be likely to at least help his own citizenship application?
I also have a pretty concrete question about the most important document in my application, my father's Ontario birth certificate. He was born in 1922 and this old, yellowing document was issued in 1928, with an official red stamp on the bottom. Do I need to send this original birth certificate in, and never have it returned? Or can I go to a notary here in the US and make a copy and have it notarized, do you think?
Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you!
I am new to this forum and find this thread very helpful, since I think it describes my family circumstances.
I am a US citizen, female, born in the US to a Canadian-born father and a US-born mother. I am in the process of completing the application for a citizenship certificate, since I appear to qualify, according to the self-assessment tool on the government website.
My son got married this past summer in Canada to a Canadian woman. They are in the process of moving to Canada. (They had been living/working in Europe, where they met.) Is it likely that he is also eligible for citizenship by descent? If not, would my obtaining my own certificate be likely to at least help his own citizenship application?
I also have a pretty concrete question about the most important document in my application, my father's Ontario birth certificate. He was born in 1922 and this old, yellowing document was issued in 1928, with an official red stamp on the bottom. Do I need to send this original birth certificate in, and never have it returned? Or can I go to a notary here in the US and make a copy and have it notarized, do you think?
Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you!
What's important in a case like this are dates...the date you were born and the date your son was born. Because your father was born in 1922, I'm going to assume that you were born before 1977. If so, your birth would have had to be registered with Canadian authorities for you to have become a Canadian citizen before April 17, 2009. (See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDeDQpIQFD0) If you were not a Canadian citizen when your son was born, then your son did not inherit Canadian citizenship from you.SusanB said:
No, your being a Canadian citizen will not impact your son's ability to immigrate or become a citizen. He should be able to be sponsored by his Canadian wife and then apply for a grant of citizenship after living here for several (currently four) years.
If you send the original document, it will not be returned. Depending on what state you live in, you *may* be able to have a copy of the birth certificate certified by a notary. Look under "Certification of true copies permitted" here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_copy If you live in a state that does not permit such certification, you can travel to a state that does or visit Canada and have it certified here. Alternatively, you can request a new copy of your father's birth certificate: https://www.orgforms.gov.on.ca/eForms/start.do
Thank you! That also confirms what my son had concluded from his research. That my own citizenship claim seems solid, but I probably can't pass it along to him. But we figure it probably couldn't hurt. And it would certainly make travel and extended visits easier.
Meanwhile, I got some unexpected help with the second part of my question, how to handle my father's birth certificate. At my son's suggestion, I contacted the Canadian Consulate here in SF.
I thought it was a long shot, because their website makes it clear that they do not address questions around immigration and citizenship applications. Their mission is to help Canadians, after all. But my son suggested it was worth a try, since I could argue that I was, in fact, a Canadian. That struck me like begging the question! But it was easy enough to e-mail-them and ask if they had advice about how/if I should get a copy of that old birth record, and if by chance they could help.
I heard back within the hour! Yes, they are able to copy and certify documents like my father's old birth certificate and their "soft seal" is attached to the copy. The cost is modest. Wednesdays, 9-12 only. I just have to make an appointment. So that part of the problem is solved!
Are Canadian officials always this nice?
Perhaps it helped that I explained why I was seeking a citizenship certificate at this late stage in my life: For the family reasons I explained above, and not simply as a reaction to the current political shift in the US. (Although that did play a role in the young couple's decision about where to settle.)
Wish me luck!
Meanwhile, I got some unexpected help with the second part of my question, how to handle my father's birth certificate. At my son's suggestion, I contacted the Canadian Consulate here in SF.
I thought it was a long shot, because their website makes it clear that they do not address questions around immigration and citizenship applications. Their mission is to help Canadians, after all. But my son suggested it was worth a try, since I could argue that I was, in fact, a Canadian. That struck me like begging the question! But it was easy enough to e-mail-them and ask if they had advice about how/if I should get a copy of that old birth record, and if by chance they could help.
I heard back within the hour! Yes, they are able to copy and certify documents like my father's old birth certificate and their "soft seal" is attached to the copy. The cost is modest. Wednesdays, 9-12 only. I just have to make an appointment. So that part of the problem is solved!
Are Canadian officials always this nice?
Perhaps it helped that I explained why I was seeking a citizenship certificate at this late stage in my life: For the family reasons I explained above, and not simply as a reaction to the current political shift in the US. (Although that did play a role in the young couple's decision about where to settle.)
Wish me luck!
Great! And if they will agree to certify YOUR birth certificate also, you won't have to send the original of that either.SusanB said:Thank you! That also confirms what my son had concluded from his research. That my own citizenship claim seems solid, but I probably can't pass it along to him. But we figure it probably couldn't hurt. And it would certainly make travel and extended visits easier.
Meanwhile, I got some unexpected help with the second part of my question, how to handle my father's birth certificate. At my son's suggestion, I contacted the Canadian Consulate here in SF.
I thought it was a long shot, because their website makes it clear that they do not address questions around immigration and citizenship applications. Their mission is to help Canadians, after all. But my son suggested it was worth a try, since I could argue that I was, in fact, a Canadian. That struck me like begging the question! But it was easy enough to e-mail-them and ask if they had advice about how/if I should get a copy of that old birth record, and if by chance they could help.
I heard back within the hour! Yes, they are able to copy and certify documents like my father's old birth certificate and their "soft seal" is attached to the copy. The cost is modest. Wednesdays, 9-12 only. I just have to make an appointment. So that part of the problem is solved!
Are Canadian officials always this nice?
Perhaps it helped that I explained why I was seeking a citizenship certificate at this late stage in my life: For the family reasons I explained above, and not simply as a reaction to the current political shift in the US. (Although that did play a role in the young couple's decision about where to settle.)
Wish me luck!
They really are responsive at the SF Consulate! I e-mailed today to schedule the appointment (which are only done on Wednesdays between 9 and !2) and they wrote back and gave me an appointment for this coming Wednesday at 10.
I already paid for a certified copy of my birth certificate, issued by the state where I was born. I think I'll just send that, rather than a copy.
I already paid for a certified copy of my birth certificate, issued by the state where I was born. I think I'll just send that, rather than a copy.
A follow-up on my Proof of Citizenship application: Canadian consulate people in SF were very nice and efficient. They proposed they certify the copies of everything I had to send, my father's Canadian birth certificate as well as my own US docs (birth, marriage, and ID documents.) So I mailed everything in and according to the US postal service it arrived in that NS office on Jan 20. (Trump's inauguration day, ironically.)
A couple days ago, I finally got the form e-mail letter confirming receipt of the application, giving me Client ID No. and Case No, and saying they will now start to review it and will be in touch if they need anything else.
So now I'm in process, I guess. Nothing shows up yet on the website when I try to track the status. But site says 5 months to get Proof of Citizenship, so I'll just wait and hope for the best.
A couple days ago, I finally got the form e-mail letter confirming receipt of the application, giving me Client ID No. and Case No, and saying they will now start to review it and will be in touch if they need anything else.
So now I'm in process, I guess. Nothing shows up yet on the website when I try to track the status. But site says 5 months to get Proof of Citizenship, so I'll just wait and hope for the best.