Bill C-6: Senate stage

[MTweet12]

Even if amendments to residency requirements were proposed, I don't see why you're assuming such amendments will surely pass.
The amendments passed so far did not contradict with the essence of C-6, they were extensions to it. But an amendment to residency would be an effort against the core of a government bill and that's why I doubt such amendments would be serious and believe if anything they would be for time wasting as they probably won't even pass the Senate.

 

[spyfy]

Even if amendments to residency requirements were proposed, I don't see why you're assuming such amendments will surely pass.
The amendments passed so far did not contradict with the essence of C-6, they were extensions to it. But an amendment to residency would be an effort against the core of a government bill and that's why I doubt such amendments would be serious and believe if anything they would be for time wasting as they probably won't even pass the Senate.

Also, to add to that: The residency requirement is explicitly stated in the election platform of the liberal party. If the Senate cans an explicit election promise they can be sure that the HoC will not agree to it. And since the bill is full of pet projects by now, Senators actually want this bill to pass.

 

[thejkhan]

Even if amendments to residency requirements were proposed, I don't see why you're assuming such amendments will surely pass.
The amendments passed so far did not contradict with the essence of C-6, they were extensions to it. But an amendment to residency would be an effort against the core of a government bill and that's why I doubt such amendments would be serious and believe if anything they would be for time wasting as they probably won't even pass the Senate.

I don't see why you're assuming such amendments are/will be totally against the core of a government bill. Like the language amendment, residency amendment is also going to be a compromise between both sides.

 

[SufferInCan]

I don't see why you're assuming such amendments are/will be totally against the core of a government bill. Like the language amendment, residency amendment is also going to be a compromise between both sides.

A compromise just means that the liberals failed to fulfill their major election promise, IF it really happens to pass the senate

 

[spyfy]

I don't see why you're assuming such amendments are/will be totally against the core of a government bill. Like the language amendment, residency amendment is also going to be a compromise between both sides.

The language amendment was never in the liberal election platform.

 

[MTweet12]

I don't see why you're assuming such amendments are/will be totally against the core of a government bill. Like the language amendment, residency amendment is also going to be a compromise between both sides.

I'm not assuming. Repealing C-24 was a campaign promise and that means residency requirements going back to 3/5. Any amendment to that is a change to a campaign promise of the elected government.

 

[Confused in Montreal]

I'm not assuming. Repealing C-24 was a campaign promise and that means residency requirements going back to 3/5. Any amendment to that is a change to a campaign promise of the elected government.

Very true!! Even the mandate letter given to John McCallum clearly stated that. The new mandate letter given to Ahmed Hussen is not as explicit. don't loose your sleep over it.

Senate meets again today at 2PM till 415 I assume and C4 and C6 are again up for debate. Another day of fairy tales and blah blah.

 

[spiritsoul]

Also, to add to that: The residency requirement is explicitly stated in the election platform of the liberal party. If the Senate cans an explicit election promise they can be sure that the HoC will not agree to it. And since the bill is full of pet projects by now, Senators actually want this bill to pass.

There was just 2 campaign promises in regards the citizenship: https://trudeaumetre.polimeter.org/

1- A Canadian is A Canadian is A Canadian .... Repeals terrorism clause & Intent to Reside clause
2- Give international students and temporary residents credit for time already spent in Canada.

Reducing the required residency period from 4/6 to 3/5 was never in the campaign, it was however a good point from the government to include it in #C6. Accordingly, there is no guarantee that 4/6 remains (if amendment proposed by Sen. Frum today as the debate was adjourned in her name yesterday, expected) and, if passed, there will be no surprise to be accepted in the HoC as long as terrorism, intent to reside and intl students and temporary residence promises remain untouched!!!

Mccallum was could fight fir it but I don't think Hussen !

ONLY GOD KNOWS

 

[quasar81]

I may get Citizenship 1 year late, but I know which party I will NEVER vote for - CONservatives.

 

[quasar81]

WHERE can I find which Independent Senator voted which way in last few amendments.



Time has come to email/phone Independent Senators NOW/TODAY, and remind that they were appointed by PM Trudeau - who had promised to repeal C-24 in elections and WON those elections on that agenda.

It Trudeau wouldn't have won, these senators would not be there in first place.

 

[monalisa]

There was just 2 campaign promises in regards the citizenship: https://trudeaumetre.polimeter.org/

1- A Canadian is A Canadian is A Canadian .... Repeals terrorism clause & Intent to Reside clause
2- Give international students and temporary residents credit for time already spent in Canada.

Reducing the required residency period from 4/6 to 3/5 was never in the campaign, it was however a good point from the government to include it in #C6. Accordingly, there is no guarantee that 4/6 remains (if amendment proposed by Sen. Frum today as the debate was adjourned in her name yesterday, expected) and, if passed, there will be no surprise to be accepted in the HoC as long as terrorism, intent to reside and intl students and temporary residence promises remain untouched!!!

Mccallum was could fight fir it but I don't think Hussen !

ONLY GOD KNOWS

Amendments for residency requirements is regarding 4/6 3/5 or the pre-pr ?
hope it will be for pre-pr only

Guys who were international students or temporary workers/residence be patient its better to wait 1 year more rather than waiting 1 year more + 4/6 rule

4/6 rule is very hard , i know many here are about to complete 4/6 they can understand me

 

[Redfield]

Lol so International students and foreign workers who have been here for more than 8 years can suck it up as long as you don't have to wait a single more day.

 

[monalisa]

Lol so International students and foreign workers who have been here for more than 8 years can suck it up as long as you don't have to wait a single more day.

Sorry, but only last 2 years to be counted, wait 1 more year better than waiting 2 more years under c24
I understand you very well

https://twitter.com/ratnaomi/status/852163823612170240

 

[Joshua1]

Guys who were international students or temporary workers/residence be patient its better to wait 1 year more rather than waiting 1 year more + 4/6 rule

4/6 rule is very hard , i know many here are about to complete 4/6 they can understand me
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4/6 rule could have been considered fair, if time spent could be counted...

 

[Redfield]

No you don't, this kind of remark shows you're in it for yourself and don't give much considerations to people who have been here wayyy more than any other kind of immigrants. C-24 impacted foreign students and workers the most giving them two additional years of residency to do, that's why Trudeau vowed to repeal that provision and restor the credit. Also 3/5 and 1year pre-pr go hand in hand, HoC will no accept any amendments to this as it is 50% of the Bill