Bill C-6: Senate stage

[spiritsoul]

Adjourned!!

 

[marcher]

Adjourned!!

Surprise surprise ..

 

[Hamid khan]

Adjourned!!

does it mean they not talk again about this bill

or they Adjourned!! just for today

 

[qjzhou]

Adjourned by another Conservative Senator Lang. OMG......Never ends

 

[Tonimir]

So it took her a week to prepare 3 paragraphs of speech and thats it? Till next meeting? No actual discussion, no dialog in the hall, just shoot a speech until the next one comes up and does the same? ... This is so outrageous!

Though I do agree with the point for the language, as you must speak one of the official languages in order to integrate with the society. But if you really want to make things move forward, you have to have an agreement between all parties in that meeting on what have to be addressed and altered, send it to the HoC so things move forward.

What we are seeing right here is a true politicization of a bill just for the sake of argument between Libs and Cons!

This is so disappointing ...

 

[marcher]

So Senator Frum finally gave her speech; and as previously predicted, she simply recycled the same arguments. The only addition she made was threaten independent Senators from getting involved in this bill as it is a Lib v Con fight; however, she mistakenly missed that the Libs are not really fighting for this bill in the Senate, they are pretending it doesn’t exist.

I listened to Sen. Frum’s speech, and she brought up the same clauses that are controversial, revoking citizenship to terrorists, and language requirements for applicants. In all honesty, these two clauses make sense. In fact, if C-6 is implemented in its present format, then there will be national outrage on why Libs removed a law that is meant to protect national security.

It sucks for the rest of us on here to be stuck in this mess, as our primary concern is the waiting time to apply, which no one seems to care about nor oppose in both the HoC and Senate.

 

[spiritsoul]

There is no sitting tomorrow so, it's probably sometime next week or end of Jan 2017

 

[marcher]

There is no sitting tomorrow so, it's probably sometime next week or end of Jan 2017

To be more accurate, sometime in the future considering life will continue forever on planet earth

 

[spiritsoul]

Wait and watch Daniel Lang!!!

 

[monalisa]

There is no CIMM Committee in the Senate!! :-X

Dear pls find below the following links, then you can understand the issue, seems every bill has its committee for study it

parl . gc.ca/ Committees / en / List

last time I found the list of members showing cons are around 100 and rest around 25 members, i am not able to find now the web is complicated.

But I am just showing you what I mean

 

[spiritsoul]

Dear pls find below the following links, then you can understand the issue, seems every bill has its committee for study it

parl . gc.ca/ Committees / en / List

last time I found the list of members showing cons are around 100 and rest around 25 members, i am not able to find now the web is complicated.

But I am just showing you what I mean

Again, this link is in the House of Common NOT in the Senate......
Bill C-6 is currently in the Senate, passed the HoC and CIMM already before last summer.

 

[tyl92]

that's for sure and confirmed , nothing won't happen until 2017 and regarding the 3/5 rule , i wouldn't be surprised if it takes an extra year to be applied .And if anyone of you can look at the senate calendar for 2017 , they have lots and lots of break before the big summer break . I hope for those that still have a long way down the road and more concerned now by c6 that senators will roll up their sleeves once and for all and stop joking around .
For all those that are going to qualify next year under current rules , better off relying on the current rules and wait impatiently

 

[monalisa]

Again, this link is in the House of Common NOT in the Senate......
Bill C-6 is currently in the Senate, passed the HoC and CIMM already before last summer.

I know that, i think that the link i found last time was for the committee that studied c24

Question: Do they assign committee members for each bill once its transferred to committee stage and the majority is Liberals?

If yes, then
They are trying to delay the transfer of c6 to committee because they know after committee stage they will vote for second reading and the bill will pass.

What do you think guys?

 

[globalstar66]

The Libs don't give a crap - this was one of the main election "promises", and now that they're the government until at least the end of 2019, they could care less.... If it really was an important bill for them, they would have MADE time to get it heard.... Empty, empty election BS promises. I did not expect anything else from these idiots.

 

[globalstar66]

I understand your frustration, but laying accusations like that after a year of government is unfair and, with all due respect, irresponsible.
Please take into account the following nuancing facts :

- They still have 3 years to fullfill their promises
- They have no partisan control over the Senate
- They campaigned on the very fact of spending taxpayers money to generate growth, and that doesn't measure after a year
- You can't measure job creation while no major bill has passed yet (by the way you need to spend taxpayers money to directly create jobs when you are the government), don't also forget that the Oil price crisis erased a lot of jobs too
- They are not the ones who promised to revoke 3000+ fraudulent citizenships. But still, they carried the promise, because last time I checked, revoking what's fraudulent was the right thing to do

Relax and give them a chance, Real Change doesn't come instantly ...

You can argue anyway you like, but these ARE the facts so far, and they're getting worse as each month passes....

During the election campaign, Trudeau told Canadians that in order to fulfill his election promises, a Liberal administration would record projected deficits of:
$9.9 billion in 2016/17
$9.5 billion in 2017/18
$5.7 billion in 2018/19
and a surplus of $1 billion in 2019/20.

Following the election, when the Liberals presented their first budget in March 2016 (only 4 months later), Trudeau almost tripled his projected deficits, as follows:
to $29.4 billion in 2016/17
to $29 billion in 2017/18
to $22.8 billion in 2018/19,
to $17.7 billion in 2019/20
and to $14.3 billion in 2020/21
With NO mention of a SURPLUS anytime in the next decade....

Then on Tuesday Nov 1st 2016, the Finance Minister, Bill Morneau in his economic update, added an EXTRA $31.7 billion more to the deficits Trudeau unveiled in the first Liberal budget in March (less than eight months earlier).

He also added yet another projected deficit of $14.6 billion in 2021/22, two years after Trudeau promised during the election his government would have a $1 billion surplus in 2019/20.

We will be in serious debt, with no sight of relief, for WELL OVER A DECADE to come.....