Bill C-6: Senate stage

[admontreal]

I think the language requirement is reasonable - and for retired parents/grandparents, it really doesn't make a difference since they won't be physically fit enough to travel that much, so either staying as PR or becoming citizen wouldn't really have much impact on them

That's a very generalizing statement. And Canadian citizenship is not all about traveling with a Canadian passport...

 

[spiritsoul]

In the case of C-24, it was voted for in one sitting and passed on for Third Reading and then Royal Assent. Other bills have been in the committee for a couple of sittings (about 3 average). With C-6, everything could happen, difficult to set a time frame.

C-4 had a one committee session because it went through a few pre-study by the same senate committee. Additionally, it was Harper's command -- Weird --

 

[marcher]

The won't compromise on the Terrorist clause. It's either you treat all the citizens the same way or you don't. You can come up with all the definitions you want, this will never be enough. The Minister said he is open on amendements to add items to the bill, not to remove items. Especially not that one. As per the language requirement, it will go back to the old one. I don't see the point of subjecting kids between 14 to 18 to a language requirement. They need to be welcomed, not tested over and over.

Children between 14 and 18 who have been living in Canada for at least three years should not have language issues. I saw last time on the news that children of Syrian refugees who did not speak a word of English nor French, are already communicating in both a year later. Meanwhile, their parents are still struggling to learn one language.

 

[itsmyid]

That's a very generalizing statement. And Canadian citizenship is not all about traveling with a Canadian passport...

Of course not all about traveling. But if you don't understand English well enough for job and for casting a well-informed vote, what's the point to have citizenship instead of PR? The benefits are pretty much the same when you take out the factor of traveling, voting, and jobs

 

[marcher]

Of course not all about traveling. But if you don't understand English well enough for job and for casting a well-informed vote, what's the point to have citizenship instead of PR? The benefits are pretty much the same when you take out the factor of traveling, voting, and jobs

I am hoping I travel more after I retire

 

[itsmyid]

I am hoping I travel more after I retire

then you would likely have already met the language requirement before you retire from your current work...

 

[marcher]

then you would likely have already met the language requirement before you retire from your current work...

Yes I was kidding because you said retired people don't travel that much. If anything, they would have more time and disposable income to do so than the rest of us.

 

[itsmyid]

Yes I was kidding because you said retired people don't travel that much. If anything, they would have more time and disposable income to do so than the rest of us.

that would most likely be those who worked in Canada and had proven level of English proficiency
I am only talking about those elderly people living with their children and speaking little English
and the language requirement only applies to people under 63(?) anyway, they have plenty of time to get citizenship and travel without having to pass any English test

 

[marcher]

that would most likely be those who worked in Canada and had proven level of English proficiency
I am only talking about those elderly people living with their children and speaking little English
and the language requirement only applies to people under 63(?) anyway, they have plenty of time to get citizenship and travel without having to pass any English test

Oh I totally agree, I do not think the language clause should be in C-6 at all.

 

[monalisa]

I am hoping I travel more after I retire

travel and enjoy life now, when you retire you will not be able to walk youll be old lol

 

[monalisa]

C-4 had a one committee session because it went through a few pre-study by the same senate committee. Additionally, it was Harper's command -- Weird --

you cant tell someone your wrong, even if he is wrong will keep fighting that he is write, same about c24

to be honest, cons senators weren't bad at all, they gave their point of view, they tried to do something good for canada but they found they done mistakes with c24, they didnt resist in senates, they were kind some how they just delayed it. it human being habits.

we are aggressive for 3/5 thats all take it easy guys, will be passed soon .

 

[marcher]

The Edmonton Sun echoed Senator Lang's words about revoking citizenship of terrorists :

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2016/12/15/get-tough-on-dual-national-terrorists-senator-urges

See how media focuses only on that specific clause when addressing C-6? No wonder why the vast public are supportive of C-24.

 

[Amoon]

the coexistence it's a beautiful meaning
for a nation from a different cultures and different languages and different colors ,
( it's called the Magical amalgam )
back in history they used to consider the coexistence between their people as a reason behind the Success which's
(the Magical amalgam ) that will make a great one Culture with amazing National feeling of that one great country with all the differences between languages and colors and backgrounds .
CANADA is a great Example for the sweet Magical amalgam of it's own Nation and Canada will be always great because we are great Canadians with honest National feelings inside all of us ..
it's true that my best friend is Italian and my next door good neighbors are Greeks and that lady with a great smile who works at the post office she's Irish , but how about if we all say that we are Canadians . we belongs here and all of us came over to build together even if the C-24 citizenship residency requirement is destroying the national feelings inside some of the immigrants who been living here since many years waiting and wants to be proud to say that they are truly Canadian Citizens and our country is one country with different Cultures , colors , Languages . and it's the Great Canada with wise Government who consider all their people as Canadians

 

[marcher]

the coexistence it's a beautiful meaning
for a nation from a different cultures and different languages and different colors ,
( it's called the Magical amalgam )
back in history they used to consider the coexistence between their people as a reason behind the Success which's
(the Magical amalgam ) that will make a great one Culture with amazing National feeling of that one great country with all the differences between languages and colors and backgrounds .
CANADA is a great Example for the sweet Magical amalgam of it's own Nation and Canada will be always great because we are great Canadians with honest National feelings inside all of us ..
it's true that my best friend is Italian and my next door good neighbors are Greeks and that lady with a great smile who works at the post office she's Irish , but how about if we all say that we are Canadians . we belongs here and all of us came over to build together even if the C-24 citizenship residency requirement is destroying the national feelings inside some of the immigrants who been living here since many years waiting and wants to be proud to say that they are truly Canadian Citizens and our country is one country with different Cultures , colors , Languages . and it's the Great Canada with wise Government who consider all their people as Canadians

It is a bit ironic that you are praising diversity yet the three different nationalities you list happen to be European ... that is what one calls selective diversity .. as long as they are white and Christian then they are welcome ???

 

[itsmyid]

It is a bit ironic that you are praising diversity yet the three different nationalities you list happen to be European ... that is what one calls selective diversity .. as long as they are white and Christian then they are welcome ???

I don't think he meant that... it just so happened that he works/lives with those people.