Bill C-6: Senate stage

[spyfy]

Hi spyfy,
Thanks for the info. Though i don't agree on at least one about government not hiring PRs. I myself have appeared for job interviews for OPS and have not faced any issue. Though there might be some jobs which specifically have a citizenship requirement so maybe you are right.

Here is an example of an email that I got after applying for a government job:

If your citizenship status remains the same and will not change by XXXXXXXX to a Canadian citizen:
We regret to inform you that your candidacy cannot be retained at this time given the significant number of applications received from Canadian citizens.
As indicated on the job advertisement, “Preference will be given to veterans and to Canadian citizens, in that order”
Should there be an insufficient number of qualified candidates among Canadian citizens who applied during the current campaign, non-Canadian citizens may be considered.

The regulations are similar for many job postings by the government, particularly the well-paying ones. They finish with the sentence “Preference will be given to veterans and to Canadian citizens, in that order”

 

[pkin007]

Here is an example of an email that I got after applying for a government job:



The regulations are similar for many job postings by the government, particularly the well-paying ones. They finish with the sentence “Preference will be given to veterans and to Canadian citizens, in that order”

Interesting..first time I cam across this. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[spyfy]

Interesting..first time I cam across this. Thanks for clarifying.

There even are some high-security clearance jobs, where citizens are not just treated preferentially, but citizenship is an outright requirement, e.g. work for CSIS.

 

[pkin007]

Yeah knew about that one..and also about the fact that u need about 5 years of post PR time to get a security clearance in Canada unless your employer seeks special exemptions or so i was told. Not digressing from topic on hand though..the way forward is going to take time, time for govt to digest the courts ruling, then to incorporate the same in the bill or maybe they exclude the amendment all together and say that since courts have ruled the need for the amendment is not needed in case of revocations..either way there is still some way to go in my humble opinion and we can keep pressuring the people in power via twitter or facebook they will ultimately take a call once they feel they are ready to discuss and put a credible way forward for the bill in Hoc and subsequently through senate.

 

[VFX_man]

Things to do while waiting . . . study.

Just screen captured the online flashcards and created a hardcopy pdf to print out "real" flash cards from here http://citizenshipcounts.ca/flashcards/

How tricky do people find this test overall? Is it "multiple-guess"? No pressure, but see this note: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=361&top=5

Cheers, M

 

[Whocares]

Interesting..first time I cam across this. Thanks for clarifying.

See eveyone got his/her own reason

Things to do while waiting . . . study.

Just screen captured the online flashcards and created a hardcopy pdf to print out "real" flash cards from here http://citizenshipcounts.ca/flashcards/

How tricky do people find this test overall? Is it "multiple-guess"? No pressure, but see this note: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=361&top=5

Cheers, M

I have heard they gonna even change the book to make it simpler. Am I right?

 

[dindon]

Just a question guys once the bill c6 passed the sena , when does the bill is going to be apprved as a law ? That we can apply and accounting our credit with work permit status before Pr , Any one knows estimation date that will come to action ?

 

[Marooned2]

Just a question guys once the bill c6 passed the sena , when does the bill is going to be apprved as a law ? That we can apply and accounting our credit with work permit status before Pr , Any one knows estimation date that will come to action ?

That's the million dollar question. Check other facts only post on C-6. Nobody knows for sure.

 

[robw]

So unfair! When is their summer break?

July 1st through September 17th.

 

[RanRan]

July 1st through September 17th.

thank you! so we will not see results before 2018, as they will come back in mid September to stretch and yawn until December

 

[RanRan]

There is a lot of posts about this earlier in this thread.
- One of many differences is that the Government hires Citizens before PRs. I was recently refused a government job because I'm not a citizen.
- Also there is elections in Ontario next year which I wouldn't mind being able to vote in.
- Also many jobs require you to travel a lot which is tricky if you have the RO of a Permanent Resident.
- This one doesn't apply to me at the moment, but if you are not a citizen and you are abroad temporarily for a job, if your child is born out of country you would have to sponsor that child for PR. If you are a citizen, your child is simply Canadian.
- Depending on the country of your current citizenship, getting a visa for many countries is much trickier than with Canadian citizenship.

Right,

1- Jobs with 40% travel- go for it
2- No visa's waiting time, disappointment of rejection, and fees
3- A cold week- fly to Dubai, a short vacation of 5 days- spend it in Paris!

 

[sbag_in]

- Jobs with 40% travel- go for it
2- No visa's waiting time, disappointment of rejection, and fees
3- A cold week- fly to Dubai, a short vacation of 5 days- spend it in Paris!

practice medicine in canada.. if i go to the usa to get my degree before my citizenship, my PR will surely expire as i need 6 yrs plus to get the degree.. and canada does not let you practice medicine unless you are a pr/citizen.. many PRs are in the same boat as me.. getting a medical residency in canada is impossible for foreign graduates unless you wanna be a family doc, which I dont.... so many like me and my wife go south, get a degree and come back here.... but without a citizenship you are stuck in a limbo... i am lucky that i will be able to apply soon even with the 4/6 before my medical residency in the usa starts.. my wife needs the 3/5 to qualify.. but at least she can renew her PR indefinitely as long she is with me and i am a citizen....unless of course the tories scratch that too...

every person will have his own reason.. point is 3/5 has served canada well historically.. 4/6 is not making it any better.. so what the heck... just change it back anyway.. everyone wants to get citizenship faster... cant imagine anybody preferring to wait 1 extra year...

 

[spyfy]

Right,

1- Jobs with 40% travel- go for it
2- No visa's waiting time, disappointment of rejection, and fees
3- A cold week- fly to Dubai, a short vacation of 5 days- spend it in Paris!

I have literally no clue what you are trying to say with your post. And I am using the word "literally" in the correct sense here.

 

[alwayspositive]

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/parliament-set-to-burn-midnight-oil-to-pass-new-laws-before-summer-recess/article35142014/?ref=https://www.theglobeandmail.com&cmpid=rss1

 

[Whocares]

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/parliament-set-to-burn-midnight-oil-to-pass-new-laws-before-summer-recess/article35142014/?ref=https://www.theglobeandmail.com&cmpid=rss1

Indeed. Bill C-44 is more important to the government than Bill C-6.