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Bill C-6: Senate stage

AliChraim

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fwhitaker

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naturalca said:
Say you come to Canada in 2015 and get your PR in the mid of 2017, you can use 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 to satisfy the 183 days requirement because 2016 has 366 days. In such situation, you can still be eligible after two years PR time.
that's the case if you never left the country. let's say someone leave the country for the holidays (Christmas and new years) than this someone is screwed.
 

richard1234

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fwhitaker said:
that's the case if you never left the country. let's say someone leave the country for the holidays (Christmas and new years) than this someone is screwed.
Can someone explain me business of 365 vs 366? how does 366 make significant difference?
 

naturalca

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richard1234 said:
Can someone explain me business of 365 vs 366? how does 366 make significant difference?
For an entire non PR year, 365/2 = 182.5, 366/2=183. I don't know whether it can be rounded up or not. As far as I know, the answer is yes before C-24. If it can be rounded up and you never travel outside Canada before you become PR, you may be fine even if the amendments are passed.
 

spiritsoul

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fwhitaker said:
that's the case if you never left the country. let's say someone leave the country for the holidays (Christmas and new years) than this someone is screwed.
Even if someone didn't leave the country, assume he/she landed as an immigrant on 1/1/2015.... ON Dec 31, 2017 he/she will complete 1095 day which means eligible in terms of days but he/she must wait until Jul 3, 2018 to satisfy 183 days in the last 4 years.

The other good case/fortunate scenario, you landed on June 30, 2015, never left the country.... you are eligible by Jun 30, 2018 for 1095 days But on Jul 3, 2018 to satisfy 183 days in the last 4 years.

Both of the above are immigrants, bot stayed in Canada but one landed earlier than the other and both are gonna apply together. Eventually, the 1st has wasted almost a half year...........This is a discrimination by law!!
 

richard1234

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naturalca said:
For an entire non PR year, 365/2 = 182.5, 366/2=183. I don't know whether it can be rounded up or not. As far as I know, the answer is yes before C-24.
Why don't we just wait extra day and apply? Is there a big deal?
 

richard1234

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spiritsoul said:
Even if someone didn't leave the country, assume he/she landed as an immigrant on 1/1/2015.... ON Dec 31, 2017 he/she will complete 1095 day which means eligible in terms of days but he/she must wait until Jul 3, 2018 to satisfy 183 days in the last 4 years.

The other good case/fortunate scenario, you landed on June 30, 2015, never left the country.... you are eligible by Jun 30, 2018 for 1095 days But on Jul 3, 2018 to satisfy 183 days in the last 4 years.

Both of the above are immigrants, bot stayed in Canada but one landed earlier than the other and both are gonna apply together. Eventually, the 1st has wasted almost a half year...........This is a discrimination by law!!
Oh I see. In this case, pre-PR time is significantly useful to count 183 days in 4 years clause?
 

fwhitaker

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spiritsoul said:
Even if someone didn't leave the country, assume he/she landed as an immigrant on 1/1/2015.... ON Dec 31, 2017 he/she will complete 1095 day which means eligible in terms of days but he/she must wait until Jul 3, 2018 to satisfy 183 days in the last 4 years.

The other good case/fortunate scenario, you landed on June 30, 2015, never left the country.... you are eligible by Jun 30, 2018 for 1095 days But on Jul 3, 2018 to satisfy 183 days in the last 4 years.

Both of the above are immigrants, bot stayed in Canada but one landed earlier than the other and both are gonna apply together. Eventually, the 1st has wasted almost a half year...........This is a discrimination by law!!
agreed... this amendment is just wrong. if it was out of 3 years, would be less wrong, but still wrong.
 

naturalca

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richard1234 said:
Why don't we just wait extra day and apply? Is there a big deal?
The 183 days requirement is meant for each calendar year of 4 out of 6. It has no direct connection to how long you spent in Canada in total.
 

richard1234

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naturalca said:
The 183 days requirement is meant for each calendar year of 4 out of 6. It has no direct connection to how long you spent in Canada in total.
Then what is the point of being eligible after 1095 if we have to fulfill 183 days of 4 out of 6 after PR requirement? It does not make any sense.
 

spiritsoul

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18-02-2013
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Yeah 28

The amendment is defeated...
 

CANADIANZ

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naturalca said:
The 183 days requirement is meant for each calendar year of 4 out of 6. It has no direct connection to how long you spent in Canada in total.
Thank you for this explanation.

The 183 days requirement is meant for each calendar year of 4 out of 6. It has no direct connection to how long you spent in Canada in total.