Been in Canada for 3 yrs, but form shows I've been absent for 1428 days?

[Yourname]

Hey guys,

Sorry for the confusing title, but check this out:
I'm applying for PR Card Renewal. Been in Canada for almost 3 years (2 years 11 months) and so I was filling out the form and saw this and that has be perplexed as to how to proceed:

I mean, my address history shows that I've been here almost 3 years so I know I should be good to go, but this Travel History part gets me all scared since they're making me list it all AND I am over the limit of 1095 days. :/ I also left out periods that went past the 5 year limit. Like before the line 3, there could be a few more lines - but I left it all to keep it simple, especially since they just want to know the 5 year period.

Should I ignore the 1095 days part and just submit it, or do I need to fill the "Period to be assessed" part and do something else?
Thanks so much!

 

[pdo]

You're listing dates back as far as 2009 here. you only need to list the last five years, or since you became a PR. If this is your first renewal, then your period of assessment goes back to the date of your PR landing. If you have been a PR longer, then count back five years from the date of application. Let's say you are sending this tomorrow, then you need to have a period of assessment that goes from 9 august 2011 to 9 august 2016.

If your period of assessment starts on 9 August, according to the below travel history you do not meet the requirements yet. It doesn't matter if you have an address here if you were not physically present in Canada. There are exceptions to that if you were relocated overseas for work or something like that.

When does your PR card expire? If you can wait it out a few months, you will clear the residency obligation days I think.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I also left out periods that went past the 5 year limit.

Might want to brush up on your basic math.

2016 - 5 = 2011.

You've included dates going back to 2009...

 

[Yourname]

Might want to brush up on your basic math.

2016 - 5 = 2011.

You've included dates going back to 2009...

Haha yeah but I did that to avoid overcomplicating by showing exact dates - either way, totally didn't occur to me that the dates got bundled together. I could probably leave the top line and remove the last two and I'm under 1095 days!

You're listing dates back as far as 2009 here. you only need to list the last five years, or since you became a PR. If this is your first renewal, then your period of assessment goes back to the date of your PR landing. If you have been a PR longer, then count back five years from the date of application. Let's say you are sending this tomorrow, then you need to have a period of assessment that goes from 9 august 2011 to 9 august 2016.

If your period of assessment starts on 9 August, according to the below travel history you do not meet the requirements yet. It doesn't matter if you have an address here if you were not physically present in Canada. There are exceptions to that if you were relocated overseas for work or something like that.

When does your PR card expire? If you can wait it out a few months, you will clear the residency obligation days I think.

My card expired in October 2013. And yes, added the bit about the bloated dates above. My mistake.
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Would you guys think my solution would suffice? Oh and that would also mean the "Period to be assessed" remains blank, right?

 

[pdo]

The period of assessment is five years then. So, again, let's say you're sending the application today, your period of assessment is 9 August 2011 to 9 August 2016. That's what you put in that field. However if your PR card expired in 2013, there may be a different procedure. I don't know how they count RO in that situation. Based on what you said here, it looks like most of the time you've spent living in Canada has been after your PR expired.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Would you guys think my solution would suffice? Oh and that would also mean the "Period to be assessed" remains blank, right?

No, the period to be assessed is not left blank. You need to pick the day you are going to finish and sign the app, go back 5 years from that date and put that in for the period to be assessed. For your absences, you only list what is within that 5 year span. There is no need to list absences going beyond that.

However if your PR card expired in 2013, there may be a different procedure. I don't know how they count RO in that situation.

There is no different procedure for those with an expired PR card.

 

[Yourname]

No, the period to be assessed is not left blank. You need to pick the day you are going to finish and sign the app, go back 5 years from that date and put that in for the period to be assessed. For your absences, you only list what is within that 5 year span. There is no need to list absences going beyond that.

Got it. By the way, thanks so much for your help guys.
For my absence, the actual date of absence I was thinking of including earlier was:
2010-10-03 TO 2013-09-25

But if there's no need to list absences going beyond that, and given that 5 year span it would mean I would have to cut up the above period of absence and make it look like:
2011-08-09 TO 2013-09-25

(2011-08-09 because that's the exact date 5 years ago from today, i.e Aug 9, 2016)

Does that look alright guys?
Thanks a ton again!

 

[canuck_in_uk]

But if there's no need to list absences going beyond that, and given that 5 year span it would mean I would have to cut up the above period of absence and make it look like:
2011-08-09 TO 2013-09-25

(2011-08-09 because that's the exact date 5 years ago from today, i.e Aug 9, 2016)

Does that look alright guys?

Yes, that's correct.

 

[Yourname]

Yes, that's correct.

Thanks so very much!
I'm going to put in the application today!

 

[Yourname]

Hey guys,

Soooo... I didn't end up putting in the application that day as mentioned above because of some additional issues I ended up having. Here's my problem:

In the document checklist, it is quite clear on what I need to add (especially secondary ID). But then if I read the instruction guide, it has no mention of a secondary ID. Should I follow the checklist, or the guide?
Oh, and in the guide it also mentions something about
For what it's worth, here is what I was looking to add to the application considering date from today keeps me at 750 days outside Canada (as mentioned above):

• [primary ID] I have my passport from India.
• [secondary ID] Ontario G1 driver's license.
• [proof of residences] Notice of Assessment for 2013 (Tax year says 2013, but Date says Jan 30, 2015... does that matter btw?)
• [proof of residences] Notice of Assessment for 2014
• [proof of residences] Some cellphone bills from 2013, 2014 and 2015.
• [proof of residences] I also got a CBSA traveller history document from CBSA that shows the dates I was in and out that I am planning to include if you guys think it's a good idea

Any thoughts?

 

[Yourname]

Bump..

 

[Yourname]

Hope someone can reply about the IDs

 

[thecoolguysam]

Hope someone can reply about the IDs

As per the following links for PR card renewal, it just asks for 1 primary ID. There is no mention of secondary ID:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5445ETOC.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5644E.pdf

 

[Yourname]

As per the following links for PR card renewal, it just asks for 1 primary ID. There is no mention of secondary ID:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5445ETOC.asp

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5644E.pdf

Wow, you're right. I was looking at the old version of the checklist!!
So that means all I would need is the copy of the passport (and not all pages) and that's all I would need? Or do I include the proofs of residence as well?

For some reason, everything seems to have gotten updated and now I can't seem to find anywhere where it mentioned the copies of all pages in the passport.

 

[thecoolguysam]

Wow, you're right. I was looking at the old version of the checklist!!
So that means all I would need is the copy of the passport (and not all pages) and that's all I would need? Or do I include the proofs of residence as well?

For some reason, everything seems to have gotten updated and now I can't seem to find anywhere where it mentioned the copies of all pages in the passport.

I would suggest you to read the checklist properly and read the guide thoroughly and start a fresh. If you use old forms, cic might delay your application or return it.

I am copying a part of the instruction guide in regards to the passport, rest you can read the whole checklist and the instruction guide properly:

The copy should show:
the document type and number;
issue and expiry date;
your name;
your photo; and
your date of birth

I would recommend you to read the checklist and the instruction guide thoroughly before filling the forms.