Be proactive, Please sign this petition.

[kriskris]

https://www.change.org/p/citizenship-and-immigration-canada-minister-of-minister-of-immigration-canada-order-an-inquiry-to-new-delhi-visa-office-s-slow-processing-for-spousal-sponsorship

Thanks.

 

[kriskris]

Please share it on your Facebook and twitter. Lets keep it going. Thanks.

 

[Christoph100]

Here we go again (petition for Canadian Gov)...why don't you petition your own Government its not just Canada that causes the slow down.

Chris.

 

[kriskris]

@Christoph100, What other government is responsible for Canadian visa offices ?

 

[Christoph100]

@ Christoph100, What other government is responsible for Canadian visa offices ?

The immigration process entails many things including back ground and security and identity, verification of marriage if married checks. In order for these checks to be completed the applicants own country of citizenship and or any other countries that he/she may have been a resident of need to share information with the Canadian Gov in order for Canada to process the applications. Many of these other countries have less then stellar performance in sharing information with Canada. There lies the reason for a lot of the slow down.

Chris.

 

[kriskris]

Any source ?

 

[Christoph100]

Any source ?

Sometimes such things can be seen in the GCMS notes. You can see the Canadian VO extending a request to a foreign entity for information. One can also see the when the response is received back for the VO and if the response is what was requested or just a simple acknowledgement along with and expected ETA for completion or just a Delay response. Finally after the request is full filled it can also be seen the date of the completion in the notes.

Other sources...just have to look at what countries have agreements with Canada for sharing of information.
no agreements with Canada expect slow downs.

Chris.

 

[kriskris]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

 

[chakrab]

also Minister of Citizenship and Immigration is not solely responsible for consular activities. there are other ministers who controls the consulates, how many people work in it, who works, what takes priority, etc. Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of State (Foreign Affairs and Consular Services) play a part in it too.

 

[kriskris]

also Minister of Citizenship and Immigration is not solely responsible for consular activities. there are other ministers who controls the consulates, how many people work in it, who works, what takes priority, etc. Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of State (Foreign Affairs and Consular Services) play a part in it too.

I would think that Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of State has nothing to do with visa processing. Also "how many people work in it, who works, what takes priority", this is exactly what I want to know. Why family/spousal process is not the priority ? If it is , what is causing the delays ? Why not hire more people to clear the backlog if it exists ? After all they are getting processing fee for it.

I am pretty sure processes can be improved. Don't you ?

 

[Christoph100]

also Minister of Citizenship and Immigration is not solely responsible for consular activities. there are other ministers who controls the consulates, how many people work in it, who works, what takes priority, etc. Minister of Foreign Affairs and Minister of State (Foreign Affairs and Consular Services) play a part in it too.

Right and the foreign countries themselves all have different levels and sections of responsibility with in their own governments and how they respond to outside requests from Canada.

Chris.

 

[Christoph100]

what is causing the delays ?

As I have already stated there is a lot of out sourcing in the process that Canada has no control over.

A good personal example for your self.. How long did it take for your spouse or yourself to obtain the Police Clearance Certificate? at least 30days was it not? (some people are taking months to obtain one)

Imagine having to add more checks and those checks are being requested by a foreign gov. Time to process by one Government's agenda is not the accepted time by another to have it completed. Each Gov and and each department of each gov works on their own time line. The Embassies that process applications not only handle spousal but many other types including walk in help for citizens. I know that from experience Canadian Embassy in Bangkok helped me out before.(yes I am aware that the Embassy in Bangkok does not do spousal its just an example that embassies do more then just apps.

As for the petition, if you are the applicant how does that look trying to petition the very Government that you are trying to get Perm Residence from?

Chris.

 

[Sheps]

Online petitions have no weight for the Canadian Government, you have to have a physical petition for them to recognize it.

There are ways to do this, however the other nail is that if you aren't Canadian, your petition will have no weight either.

 

[Christoph100]

Online petitions have no weight for the Canadian Government, you have to have a physical petition for them to recognize it.

There are ways to do this, however the other nail is that if you aren't Canadian, your petition will have no weight either.

Correct 100%

Chris.

 

[kriskris]

I understand where you guys are coming from. But here are some of my observations:

Online petitions have no weight for the Canadian Government, you have to have a physical petition for them to recognize it.

There are ways to do this, however the other nail is that if you aren't Canadian, your petition will have no weight either.

While I accept the second point but saying that "online petition have no weight and we need physical petition ", you have to look at "We the people" petition in US and although it doesn't have outstanding results, it was able to solve some important problems. And elections being close, I do see these kind of issues making an impact.

After all we want is for process to be more transparent and look for ways to improve it. I am planning to talk to my local MP after this petition is complete and will see if he can raise the issue with responsible authorities. If they can give satisfactory answers then so be it, I don't mind waiting if I know that process is fair.

As I have already stated there is a lot of out sourcing in the process that Canada has no control over.

A good personal example for your self.. How long did it take for your spouse or yourself to obtain the Police Clearance Certificate? at least 30days was it not? (some people are taking months to obtain one)

Imagine having to add more checks and those checks are being requested by a foreign gov. Time to process by one Government's agenda is not the accepted time by another to have it completed. Each Gov and and each department of each gov works on their own time line. The Embassies that process applications not only handle spousal but many other types including walk in help for citizens. I know that from experience Canadian Embassy in Bangkok helped me out before.(yes I am aware that the Embassy in Bangkok does not do spousal its just an example that embassies do more then just apps.

As for the petition, if you are the applicant how does that look trying to petition the very Government that you are trying to get Perm Residence from?

Chris.

I understand you logic but all we want is to know if it is the checks that are causing the delay or it is the backlog/some conspiracy theory. BTW, police clearance certificate can be easily obtained in India in under a week (not sure how long it take for NDVO to obtain that information). All we want is some clarity.

Also petition is just a request and it is not a legal action so I don't think it looks bad considering we are living in a democratic system.