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BAD NEWS! NOVA SCOTIA INTERNATIONAL STUDENT PNP CLOSING ON MARCH 31 2013.

tiger007

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The NOVA SCOTIA province International Graduate stream will be closing on March 31, 2013. The Nova Scotia Office of Immigration will be accepting applications until March 28, 2013. -

See more at: http://novascotiaimmigration.ca/immigrants/immigrating-to-ns/international-graduate#sthash.YUn10cSE.dpuf



It was a good student immigration programme, which accepted even certain NOC C jobs (apart from skilled NOC,O,A and B), and where international graduates only had to work for 3 months in a full time permanent job before applying for PNP. This was a good option for students with only 1 year PGWP. But not anymore.


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tiger007 said:
The NOVA SCOTIA province International Graduate stream will be closing on March 31, 2013. The Nova Scotia Office of Immigration will be accepting applications until March 28, 2013. -

See more at: http://novascotiaimmigration.ca/immigrants/immigrating-to-ns/international-graduate#sthash.YUn10cSE.dpuf



It was a good student immigration programme, which accepted even certain NOC C jobs (apart from skilled NOC,O,A and B), and where international graduates only had to work for 3 months in a full time permanent job before applying for PNP. This was a good option for students with only 1 year PGWP. But not anymore.

really its bad news....!!! because one of my friend was considering it!!
 

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Indeed a very bad news, most specially to those who are already in Nova Scotia and have not wrapped up their studies yet. I guess the way to go for most of the applicants is thru CEC. Maybe the Canadian Govt is thinning out the process, province by province. Hoping that the other provinces will not follow thru.
 

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bigkahuna said:
Indeed a very bad news, most specially to those who are already in Nova Scotia and have not wrapped up their studies yet. I guess the way to go for most of the applicants is thru CEC. Maybe the Canadian Govt is thinning out the process, province by province. Hoping that the other provinces will not follow thru.
Oh well, there's always Quebec. The Fed's cant touch QC since they dont have jurisdiction there.
 

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one should aim for CEC anyway...i don't trust on this PNP things because very well said by older people we should not rely on kings,bands and monkey.
 

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Josh21 said:
Oh well, there's always Quebec. The Fed's cant touch QC since they dont have jurisdiction there.
The federal government doesn't have that kind of jurisdiction in Nova Scotia either. Nova Scotia decided to shut this stream down themselves.
 

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scylla said:
The federal government doesn't have that kind of jurisdiction in Nova Scotia either. Nova Scotia decided to shut this stream down themselves.
Really? I wasn't aware of that to be honest. QC just pops up more often I guess so one tends to forget about the others. Thanks anyway for the info.
 

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Really? I wasn't aware of that to be honest. QC just pops up more often I guess so one tends to forget about the others. Thanks anyway for the info.
Each province sets its own policies for the provincial immigration streams. Quebec is no different from the rest.
 

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Hmm..This is very sad. As student like us spend lot of money and risks to get the visa and dream of getting PR but If all provinces behave the same then we will be screwed.

I am applied for May intake. Hope i can apply the PR before closing the International student Stream in other provinces.
 

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vivekforbes said:
Hmm..This is very sad. As student like us spend lot of money and risks to get the visa and dream of getting PR but If all provinces behave the same then we will be screwed.

I am applied for May intake. Hope i can apply the PR before closing the International student Stream in other provinces.
Hi,

There are still various other student immgration programmes, running for international students:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/various-immigration-programmes-for-international-students-in-canada-t100908.0.html


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tiger007

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scylla said:
Each province sets its own policies for the provincial immigration streams. Quebec is no different from the rest.
Hi,

Agreed. But, Quebec has much more autonomy in selecting it's own students and immigrants. Quebec is the only province to issue CAQ- Student acceptance certificate and has been issuing CSQ-Quebec Selection certificate long before the PNPs started. The immigration policies of Quebec has far greater flexibility and rules and points system are very different. At the same time federal CEC does not apply to the potential immigrants who want to live in the province of Quebec. It shows.. Quebec is exclusive.

In past, there has been quiet a history of the Quebec sovereignty movement and... unbelievably, Quebec nearly got independence from Canada on October 30, 1995, to be a seperate French speaking country... but it lost the referendum when a marginal majority of Quebec citizens decided to vote against being a separate sovereign country. Can we imagine any other province of Canada holding a referendum for indepndence? Although, in recent years... the pro-Quebecois movement has calmed down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_sovereignty_movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_referendum,_1995


The immigration policies of Quebec are driven by 2 important factors- their growing demographic problems because of decreasing native white French-Canadian populations and need for skilled immigrants who are Francophone or are willing to learn French, contribute to the economy and integrate into their Quebecois society. Quebec wants to preserve it's French heritage, culture and the French language at any cost..and so..it reflects such in the immigration programmes, especially for younger students, who if speak French intermediate/DELF B1 level and study any recognized diploma course of atleast 1800 hours, they are granted direct CSQ under PEQ Quebec graduate stream. If only imagine... the Indian subcontinent were to be ruled by the French instead of the British..and we all from Indian subcontinent be speaking and studying in French..imagine the mass level of influx in Quebec... they did have to shut down their immigration programme or make it very difficult... a long time ago! The fact is.. despite its easier immigration laws... (only student immigration which is NOT employer dependent) most of us.. students from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. don't prefer Quebec (except for those pursuing higher Master/research studies in Universities) because of 1 and ONLY big hurdle- to learn French!


Even, recently... in Jan 2013, they amended their legal charter on French language, where all immigrants coming to Quebec via skilled worker or student regular routes(points based) MUST know minimum basic DELF A1 level French. Earlier till Dec 2012, French was not compulsory if one passed the skilled worker/regular student immigration with adequate points without French. Now, no matter what.. one must know..atleast minimum basic A1 level DELF French. Also, when some time back.. the federal Minister of Citizenship and Immigration (Canada) Mr. Jason Kenney called a meeting to propose new changes to the skilled worker immigration route to introduce EOI(Expression of interest) system (like those in Australia and NZ) in future , all provincial immigration ministers attended and agreed to it... EXCEPT for Quebec immigration minister. All these instances clearly show the higher level of autonomy enjoyed by Quebec, especially in issues like immigration.
And so, I personally believe... that the current Quebec student immigration routes and the federal CEC(for students) will continue for a much longer time in coming future, as compared to other student provincial nominee programmes... all of which will gradually and eventually shut down.



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This is sad news.... but can't say its unexpected.

I would also not be surprised if other smaller provinces like manitoba and sask follow suit. The reason being, they made it easier for Students and FSW to immigrate to canada based on the assumption that these people will enter the workforce in these provinces and help improve the economy.

But what ends up happening is as soon as a person gets their PR, they pack their bags and move to bigger cities like Toronto or Vancouver. So the whole program collapses when they are dishing out nominations left and right but potential manitobians, nova scotians etc are not sticking around to hold their end of the bargain.

They can't force people to stay in the province post immigration because that would be illegal. so closing the program and trying to figure out another way of attracting workers is probably what they are thinking.

Jobs are far and thin in these provinces but what they need are entrepreneurs and small business kick offs that can provide jobs. Economically, i think these provinces are a very good place to start a business. Unless that happens, unfortunately the availability of jobs will be very limited (compared to provinces like Alberta, BC and Ontario).

In this case, i think possible immigrants are their own worst enemies. Considering the biggest source of immigrants to canada are india and china, we tend to flock to our own little ghettos for comfort (surrey in BC, missisuaga, Toronto etc). This has probably paid a part in the demise of the PNP or it will play a part in the future. Untill we get out of the "kuaan ka daddu aka frog in a well" mentality, we should expect the imigration policies of Canada to be dynamic and constantly changing based on what the country/ provinces need. for e.g. take Australia, now that they have had an overload of students, their immigration policies change on a monthly basis.

You may be eligible for PR today but no guarantees a month from today. I'm afraid, Canada is heading in the same direction. Point in Case, the parents sponsorship category is going under major overhaul and when it opens up again later this year, it will be very difficult to qualify compared to the requirements from the last 15-20 years.
 

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tiger007 said:
(only student immigration which is NOT employer dependent)
Ontario PNP has a non employer dependent student immigration stream as well - although this stream is limited to Ontario Masters and PhD graduates.

I agree that Quebec has special rules when it comes to immigration. They have special rules when it comes to everything (language police anyone?).

I still stand by my comment that all of the provinces are free to change their provincially controlled immigration programs if they feel these programs are no longer meeting the desired objectives. I also think we are due for more changes from Quebec since far too many immigrants are migrating through Quebec-based programs and then immediately re-locating elsewhere in the country. Too many are using Quebec as a vehicle rather than a destination. Sooner or later Quebec will do something about this.

As we've seen from the stoppage of the federal parent/grandparent immigration stream, the elimination of the Alberta PNP family stream, this year's changes to the FSW stream, etc. - the only thing constant about immigration rules is change.
 

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scylla said:
Ontario PNP has a non employer dependent student immigration stream as well - although this stream is limited to Ontario Masters and PhD graduates.

I agree that Quebec has special rules when it comes to immigration. They have special rules when it comes to everything (language police anyone?).

I still stand by my comment that all of the provinces are free to change their provincially controlled immigration programs if they feel these programs are no longer meeting the desired objectives. I also think we are due for more changes from Quebec since far too many immigrants are migrating through Quebec-based programs and then immediately re-locating elsewhere in the country. Too many are using Quebec as a vehicle rather than a destination. Sooner or later Quebec will do something about this.

As we've seen from the stoppage of the federal parent/grandparent immigration stream, the elimination of the Alberta PNP family stream, this year's changes to the FSW stream, etc. - the only thing constant about immigration rules is change.
Personally I feel if you that if you bother to qualify at all under QC, it should be a destination anyway. QC isnt really like some of the other provinces who arn't well as economicly strong or stable as the others.

Like there's a clear difference between Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto and every other city. Point being I think most immigrants treat montreal as a potential destination anyway, sometimes they hop to a difference province because things dont work out. That's quite different from say getting a PR from
Nova scotia without any intent at all in staying there.