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Background Check by Visa Office

cooldoc80

Hero Member
Nov 1, 2010
761
47
NOC Code......
4111
Passport Req..
No PPR yet , just Passport Biopage request
LANDED..........
I'm Dreaming of July/2015
Dear Canadian dreamers , could you help me with my question .

I know NDVO is different from other visa offices , but i wish you could help me with this question .


I got PER on 4th/11 and usually our files are transferred to bucharest visa office . so from what i understood from fellow applicants is that BUCHAREST usually SEND A MESSAGE OF AOR requesting PRFF & PCC AFTEEER that they ask for MR which could be a week or even months ?


so in my case its been 2 months now and i didnt get any AOR although people who applied to august to bucharest started getting AOR's !!!!!!!!!!

Does this means my application transferred to Economic unit for verification ? does verification takes place before or after MR??????


thanks alot for the person who started this thread , very professional information and plus 100 to you !!
 

brown_eyes

Star Member
Jul 19, 2011
69
1
Philippines
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
0112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
July 09, 2014
Doc's Request.
received by Mike at CIO July 14, 2014
Nomination.....
PER November 11, 2014
AOR Received.
Addtl docs request August 20, 2015
IELTS Request
CEM received addtl docs Sept 20, 2015
Med's Request
October 19, 2015
Med's Done....
October 28, 2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
November 10, 2015
LANDED..........
hopefully on March 2016
pathania07 said:
very informative topic...i am fsw pr applicant 2012. in 2014 january they have made physical verification ,after some month later CHC raise some question in front of me and given 30 days for explanation i had submitted that letter to embassy. now my representative saying, expect another verification...confidant sir what is that mean? what willl be next step of embassy and if they invite me for interview then who many time they can took.?

please suggest me sir
Is Background Check exclusive to NDVO only? as I havent heard of any employment checks done at my Visa Office in Manila?
 

byn2013

Hero Member
Apr 19, 2014
362
37
Visa Office......
Manila
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
May 2014
VISA ISSUED...
N/A
LANDED..........
2015
brown_eyes said:
Is Background Check exclusive to NDVO only? as I havent heard of any employment checks done at my Visa Office in Manila?
Nope. every VO does. They do it through different various channels.
 

vishal shrestha

Hero Member
Apr 18, 2014
446
35
Nepal
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
1212
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Outstanding post sir confidant. Hats off. Are you working for CIC? :p :p
 

kitchie

Hero Member
Nov 25, 2014
316
10
Category........
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
29-12-2014
IELTS Request
Sent with application
Interview........
Praying: Waived
LANDED..........
Praying: March-April 2015
Thanks for the info.
 

saj7923

Star Member
Dec 19, 2014
82
1
cooldoc80 said:
Dear Canadian dreamers , could you help me with my question .

I know NDVO is different from other visa offices , but i wish you could help me with this question .


I got PER on 4th/11 and usually our files are transferred to bucharest visa office . so from what i understood from fellow applicants is that BUCHAREST usually SEND A MESSAGE OF AOR requesting PRFF & PCC AFTEEER that they ask for MR which could be a week or even months ?


so in my case its been 2 months now and i didnt get any AOR although people who applied to august to bucharest started getting AOR's !!!!!!!!!!

Does this means my application transferred to Economic unit for verification ? does verification takes place before or after MR??????


thanks alot for the person who started this thread , very professional information and plus 100 to you !!
 

saj7923

Star Member
Dec 19, 2014
82
1
kindly explained me wich type of verifications VO do after passport request




Misrepresentation

An officer who suspects that an applicant may be inadmissible for misrepresentation should carefully document the reasons for the concern in their notes. The officer then forward doubtful cases to Economic Class Unit where it undergo different verification processes as mentioned below to find out fraudulent documents. Misrepresented cases are rejected under IRPA Section A40 Act. The reason behind the delay of processing of some applications can be directly attached with the involvement of Economic Class Unit.


Type of Verifications

A. Site Visit (Physical Verification)
B. Telephonic
C. Interviews
D. Supporting Documents Request



A. Site Visit (Physical Verification)

Site visit is found to be one of the important means to tackle frauds. Visa offices do site visit for the current employer and previous employers (In case of claiming points based on skill O, A or B) of the primary applicant. The visa officer verify applicant's identity from the person who issued the referral letter, HR Manager, Colleagues, Receptionist and why not even from the security person. Last year FSWP seen visits in Punjab, Gujarat, Delhi, Karnataka, Andrapradesh, Tamil Nadu, Kerala etc.


B. Telephonic

1. Employer

The visa officer can ring to the number given in the reference letter. It can be to the reception or to the person who issued you the reference letter. Officer will ask primary applicant's employment related queries to employer. The visa officer may treat application as misrepresentation if they find any mismatch between the answers given by the employer in comparison to that given in the reference letter.

2. Primary Applicant

Visa officer can call directly to your mobile or land line number to verify your employment, family relation etc. Most of the questions here similar to that in the interview.


C. Interview

The visa officer can call the applicant for interview if he/she is not satisfied with the documents submitted to CIO or not satisfied with site visit/telephonic interview. The officer uses interview to raise all the concerns relating to employment, family etc. Usually the visa officer disclose the applicant about his/her interview result just after the interview. In case of positive outcome the applicant can get Medical/PPR in few days time.

D. Supporting Documents Request

The visa officer contact the person in writing about the supporting or additional documents the officer required for further processing of the application. VO will give at least 30 days from the time of receipt of the officer's notice to respond. Commonly asked supporting documents are 6 months bank statement showing the PoF, relationship proof (marriage photos), employment related documents (3 months salary slip, offer letter, appointment letter, tax related docs, renewed referral letter) etc.


Few Examples from Last Year Applicants


A. Site Visit

Example 1 (Random Verification)

I have an very important info to be shared to all of the members. We are from Chennai. Members from NDVO came to my husband's office (who is the main applicant) for personal visit and had spoke to his boss who was the reference person and also one on one with my husband for about half an hour. 2 were foreigner guys and 1 indian girl. They came around 8:30 pm last night. They just walked inside the office. They wanted security and front office to identify my husband whether he was working over there and then asked for his boss. When they introduced themselves to his boss and the reason for their visit they had mentioned that it was just a part of the process and this time they have chosen 30 members and out of which my husband is one among them.
In fact this was also very shocking for us. They introduced themselves with their names and they had all our immigration related file details like the cat we applied, ref person name and number and also the consultancy details. our consultant is an ICCRC-CRCIC members based out in vancouver and they have branches in India.

Just keeping fingers crossed and hoping for the best...Rest left to God!!!


Example 2 (Targeted Verification)

I am in a very tricky situation got medical request ppr and rprf on .......
as my bad luck stuck me in a situation where I got a background check yesterday that went terribly wrong as i was on leave for 2- 3 months new staff and messed up all guys help CHC people left with the impression that I presented wrong employment information guys please help this is the only hope I dont know now whether to submit medicals and pp.
i am too numb to do anything i was thinking to leave this job for sometime and my employer knew it all there were some issues in the family as well so I totally overlooked and may be too ignorant once i received meds I was so relaxed it did not strike me that anything like this could happen my noc ....... and VO new delhi it seems to me that game over for me as they made to write my employer that she has done a favour by giving me the work experience letter they enquired like CBI OR FBI and literaally put words in my employers mouth and new assistant finished all for me GUYS.


B. Telephonic Verification

Example 3

My HR informed yesterday there was a call from someone 4-5 days back asking them to transfer the phone to me as they wanted to speak with me. Unfortunately I was out of office then so the HR informed them about the same. My HR had asked them repeatedly who they were and what their contact details were but they hadn't obliged and said they would call back again. Just, as a pre-cursor, they have called the receptionist, asked for me and she wasn't aware who i was, so she just transferred the call to the HR. No call again so far. Things looking bleak folks. Tensed!!! Really Tensed!!! Have my medicals tomorrow. This has to be from NDVO as nobody , not even my friends are aware of my plans.


C. Interview

Example 4 (Negative)

you are all very kind. here is a bit of history

I work in ............... in corporate planning and budget section. our daily activity is nothing crunching numbers and developing forecasts.

the VO was somewhat pre determined not to get me through, he did not ask for any documentation and when I highlighted he unwillingly took in my JD. the questioning started with bit of my history, I am a qualified CPA, ACMA, LFA and a masters in strategic management.

he asked me what I do, I explained a bit of my current role. my information was bit technical as well because it relates to oil and my previous role for automotive sector.

anyways at near end of the interview he said "we had a concern about your application as not in line with NOC ......... and I am not satisfied with your responses" I responded in asking which area can I explain further, he said " your answers are broad" I replied I am only answering your broad level question do you have any specific questions to ask for example you asked about capital management, do you want me to explain about individual perspective a corporate perspective or any product portfolio do you have in mind where I can be more specific. De had nothing to say.

he was typing everything I was saying, I asked him if you can read through what you have written !!! he had a good typing speed but when he started reading I felt the writing was very fragmented and not making any sense......I did make sense!!!!

well our interview last for more than one hour and 10 minutes!! I kept explaining and he kept writing...
at the very end may be because he did not want to give a bad feeling he said we will review and get back to you. at that moment he threw away my paper under his desk like rubbish. I said these are originals if he be kind enough to return and take photocopies instead...which he agreed !!!

so this is the unbiased version of the story. what I feel strongly is that we were not able to connect or may be I was too focused on explaining what I knew rather than what he wanted to listen....!!

I think the decision is final at his end, it was more or less the same case at the start of the interview ............. but this is all very confusing why did CIC accepted my application and why I was sent a confirmation letter. then all of a sudden an interview which was of the generic requirement as was sent o you all.....

I will request for a judicial review of the application and the scenario !!

let me know your thoughts !!


Example 5 (Positive)

Well, about my interview experience

It was just a pleasant discussion. the man appeared to be just awesome, we made good contact during the interview and that is very important, I kept smiling and cool and answer promptly. I was prepared to discuss many points which I prepared BUT i couldn't get the chance to speak about it, so, if you are doing the same mistake by trying to make list of points to talk about FORGET ABOUT IT. it was bad idea.
All what you need to do is:
1. Prepare the files by your self
2. Make two files, primary and supportive
3. KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR PAPERS
4. Bring anything you think that it would help
5. Stay cool and make personal contact and for sure always make an eye contact.
6. Put your hands on the top of each others on the table so that the man can see and judge your body language.
7. Bring samples of your work, it would help
8. The files with protected transparent plastic sheets is very good idea, arrange the documents in the order they requested in the interview letter

So, all my time went into JD discussion in general and paper check and questions to make sure that I am genuine applicant nothing more, although it went for around an hour because I have 4 employment experience.


As many said here, if you are the one who prepared the file and you are genuine in terms of you made the duties in your reference letters and for sure that JDs does match the NOC details then the interview will be such pleasant one.


Congrats to my colleagues who cleared it and best of wishes for the guys to clear it ISA soon.


D. Supporting Documents Request


Example 6

Hey guys I did my medicals on ........ and submitted my ppt,fees ,required documents n marrage pics on ........ consultant got call from embassy to send the marriage pics again which reached on .............since than no information and no decision made...


FAQs


1.How many years of inadmissibility to Canada in-case the misrepresentation gets caught?
5 years ban and inadmissibility for the primary applicant and dependents for any kind of Canada visa(Previous 2 years has been revised to 5 years in the year 2013)


2.How many days it takes for my file to come out of the Economic Class Unit?
It can takes many months. However, based on the current immigration system we can expect the time require for this may not be longer than 4-5 months.


3.I have my sister in Canada but I am self sufficient with my own points and don't want to claim points under adaptability. Can I hide the relative details from CIC and tick the column corresponding to No relatives at the time I fill the FSW form?

No, if you hide the details you are making direct misrepresentation to CIC. Claiming adaptability points is your wish but should not hide the fact from CIC.


4.My site visit/telephonic interview went well. Still I haven't received any positive notification from VO after 2-3 months of waiting. Do I have to be panic?
You do not have to be panic if it takes more time to hear from VO about your application after the background check. Usually your file moves from one BF'd to the next BF'd. After your background verification CHC mark the next BF'd to give you medical/PPR or additional document request. It can be many months depending upon the complexity of your visa and visa officer.


5.Can the visa officer visit my previous employer if I am not claiming points from them?
There is very negligible chance CHC do verification for previous employer if you are not claiming points with that experience.


6.Are the files at VO moving first come first served basis same like in CIC?
Partially. Usually the files follow FIFO at CHC. But here are two cases which can hinder the cases of application.
1. If the application is forwarded for background assessment it divert from the FIFO queue.
2. Minister has the sole power to fast track processing of some NOCs or applications based of the changing labour market. Ministerial instructions also enabled CHCs to prioritize processing of applications such that people who applied to the skilled worker program after 2010 can expect their applications to be processed faster than those who applied before.


7.Can the visa officer reject my file directly without giving me a chance to explain my part?
No. Visa officer can not reject your file without informing you about the reason of rejection by writing or through interview. You will get a chance to explain your part at this time.


8.Can the permanent residency or the citizenship be revoked in-case the misrepresentation is found out in the future?
Yes.
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Sahugar

Star Member
Nov 1, 2014
89
4
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Jun-2014
AOR Received.
Oct-2014
Med's Request
MR, RPRF, Updatde Info & Passport Bio-pages Feb-2014
Dear Confidant, thanks for sharing this important but scary intel. ::)

I received an email from LVO asking for salary slips, tax forms and six months bank statement showing salary deposits. I've submitted those documents.

Do u think, in my case, they've suspected some misrepresentation and the Economic Class Unit is involved or it's just an extra check by the visa officer as I had only submitted the reference letter and no bank statement but a letter from bank stating my funds?

Please give ur opinion. Thanks.
 

managersonline

Champion Member
Oct 18, 2014
1,850
194
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[size=14pt]George
Doha,Qatar
 

saj7923

Star Member
Dec 19, 2014
82
1
managersonline said:
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hy dear forum mate,kindly share ur experience,i have sent my pp before 83 days for but still not received my visa, the VO replied my inquiry that our office is waiting the results of routine verifications/ kindly tell me how much time will incure on this process------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[size=14pt]Days from App. Received-- Till--Fee Encashed Date------->[size=14pt]89
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Days from Fee Encashed Date?-- Till--PER received date------->[size=14pt]23
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Doha,Qatar


 

coolleo

Star Member
Mar 10, 2014
79
1
Category........
Visa Office......
ndvo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
24/09/2014
File Transfer...
14/10/2014
Med's Request
13/3/2015
Med's Done....
17/3/2015
Interview........
08/12/2014
Passport Req..
29/05/2015
Hii guys ....I am a PNP applicant and had my interview at ndvo on 8 th December .but I haven't heard from them since then ...they questioned abt my marrige and employment ......i answered both but at the end when I inquired abt the result the lady said they will mail me the next process ....I haven't heard anything from them since then and ecas is also still in process .....I am quite worried because usually they reply abt result in one or two weeks ....

How long they take to send a rejection letter???pls suggest what shd I do and expect ????? :( :eek: :( :(
 

rahulsepco

Star Member
Sep 24, 2014
83
2
124
India
Category........
Visa Office......
WVO
NOC Code......
1212
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17.09.14
Doc's Request.
NA
Nomination.....
NA
AOR Received.
3.02.15
IELTS Request
sent along with application
File Transfer...
NA
Med's Request
09.05.15
Med's Done....
14.05.15
Interview........
NA
Passport Req..
waiting
VISA ISSUED...
waiting
LANDED..........
very soon this year
coolleo said:
Hii guys ....I am a PNP applicant and had my interview at ndvo on 8 th December .but I haven't heard from them since then ...they questioned abt my marrige and employment ......i answered both but at the end when I inquired abt the result the lady said they will mail me the next process ....I haven't heard anything from them since then and ecas is also still in process .....I am quite worried because usually they reply abt result in one or two weeks ....

How long they take to send a rejection letter???pls suggest what shd I do and expect ????? :( :eek: :( :(
you should not ask him/her about your result may be it was
 

nsb

Star Member
Jan 22, 2012
159
2
Category........
Visa Office......
New-Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
September 2012
Doc's Request.
Additional Doc Req : 1 October 2014
Nomination.....
12 Augest - 2013
AOR Received.
6 November - 2013 CIC - 1 September 2014 VO New Delhi
IELTS Request
Already Submitted With PNP Application
File Transfer...
26 June 2014
Med's Request
6 November - 2013 , Re-Medical 9 March - 2015
Med's Done....
22 December - 2013, Re-Medical 23 March - 2015
Passport Req..
4 May 2015
VISA ISSUED...
Decision Made on 4 May 2015 - Visa Issued 28 May 2015
LANDED..........
2nd July 2015
Hello frnds

I have one query, I sent my add Doc's request on 1 Nov 2014 and got re-assessment ( re-medical in 7 days ) after 4.5 months, did it on 24 March 2015. I got reply of my query

"Please be advised that we have received the medical results and certain background investigations are being conducted in connection with your application. As these investigations are conducted by outside agencies, we have no purview over the processing time. We are therefore unable to give an exact time frame in which we expect to conclude the verifications on this case

can anyone let me know what is this mean ? from what I understand and discussion with other members the background check was done in 4.5 months, I should be at last stage of my case (PPR Request ), please let me know I cannot wait anymore, it's killing me