Arranged employment

[professional 1]

You don't need an AEO if you are already in Canada working. Read the application guide. I already posted the link. It's very clear. If you are on a valid work permit and have a letter from your employer, you don't need an AEO. An AEO is for people who are outside Canada and haven't started working for their employer yet.

Again being working inside canada alone doesn't mean that you are HRDC exempted you have to fall in one of the HRDC exempted

Have a look at this link :

trackitt.com/canada-discussion-forums/federal-skilled-workers/377003545/rejected-by-sydney-cio-under-aeo-arranged-employment-category


this is quotation of the subject inside the link :

"Hi All,

My PR application was rejected today by Sydney CIO office. Currently I am in Canada on a work permit. I obtained this work permit under IT Workers category, which doesn't require HRSDC job confirmation. After reviewing my application, they said that this work permit is not eligible under Arranged Employment category and they cannot process my application in absence of HRSDC confirmation.

As such I am planning to get the HRSDC letter now and am planning to reapply after that.

Any suggestions or comments on my above course of actions are much welcomed.

Thanks"


"My NOC code is 2171.

I had a letter from my employer saying they will hire me permanently upon receiving PR but not sure why they still rejected it. Anyway, I am starting (through my company) the process of getting the HRSDC confirmation.

Thanks"

 

[Leon]

LEON with all respect your information are not right

read this link page 31 : the three options in regard to arranged employment category :

http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

I read it. I see this:

(1) the applicant is currently working in
Canada on an HRSDC- confirmed
temporary work permit (including
sectoral confirmations), pursuant to
R82(2)(a)
• the work permit is valid at the time
of the permanent resident visa
application and at the time the visa
is issued; and
• the employer has made an offer to
employ the applicant on an
indeterminate basis if the
permanent resident visa is issued.

So that would be if she has a regular work permit and has an LMO for it.

And I see this:

(2) the applicant is currently working in
Canada pursuant to R82(2)(b):
• in a confirmation-exempt category
under the North America Free
Trade Agreement, the General
Agreement on Trade and Services,
or the Canada-Chile Free Trade
Agreement;
• in a significant-benefit category,
such as an intra- company
transferee
• in the category where limited
access to the labour market is
granted for public policy reasons
(i.e., post-graduate work,
spouse/common-law partner of
temporary skilled worker/foreign
student, etc.).
• the work permit is valid at the time
of the permanent resident visa
application and at the time the visa
is issued; and
• the employer has made an offer to
employ the applicant on an
indeterminate basis if the
permanent resident visa is issued.

So that would be if she is on a post-grad work permit as you said before or spouse permit, NAFTA visa etc. etc.

I don't see a problem?

 

[professional 1]

if she has a valid post graduation work permit or spouse permit, NAFTA visa etc. etc. only in this case she will be exmpted form HRDC confirmation but even if your post graduation work permit got expired for the maximum period of 3 years you will not be able to renew it again under any conditions, then if you wish to extend your stay in canada you will have to get a regular work permit (not post graduate) by satisfying the requiremnets of that work permit posisitve (LMO) in that case will be reqiured.

for cathy she has a regular work permit not post graduation and she needed from the beginning LMO and she still needs that because she is not exempted form the positive LMO. so when she apply under AEO she will be asked to provide her valid (regular work permit) and positive LMO.

 

[Leon]

I am not sure what the problem is. If she has a regular work permit obtained by LMO, then she has no problem. Her work permit, LMO and letter from employer will serve instead of an AEO for her to claim points for arranged employment.

 

[professional 1]

I am not sure what the problem is. If she has a regular work permit obtained by LMO, then she has no problem. Her work permit, LMO and letter from employer will serve instead of an AEO for her to claim points for arranged employment.

If she has LMO confirmed by the HRSDC there should be no problem in that regard, but i don't know why didn't she send it with her application to be considered under (arranged employment offer) ?

 

[professional 1]

Cathy if the following scenario exactly apply to your situation, you will be fine under (arranged employment offer) category for both(eligibility and points):

You are working in Canada on a temporary work permit and

a.your temporary work permit was issued after receipt of a positive labour market opinion of your job offer from Human Resources and Social Development Canada (HRSDC);
b.you are currently working in that job;
c.the work permit was valid at the time you made your permanent resident visa application and at the time the visa is issued; and
d.your employer made an offer to employ you on an indeterminate basis once the permanent resident visa is issued.

(but still don't call your situation HRSDC exempted, because that was the reason of the confusion in our discussion when i was trying to convince you that you are not HRSDC exempted you already have a positive LMO confirmed by the HRSDC for your current job which will be your permenant job after immigrating to canada so no need to get another one as long as your current one is valid and you keep working with the same employer but you sholud have sent it with your application).


why haven't you sent the LMO confirmation for your current job with your application ?

 

[cathy2381]

This is indeed a very healthy forum...

Sorry Guys if I let the two of you do the "exchanging of ideas" yesterday. I left the forum due to work schedule.

Anyway, you Guys are one of the two heroes in this chat room. I just want you to know the ideas and researching you had given to my topic is so appreciated. Thanks for the info. I think the confusion, made this topic a long but very interesting. I apologize if I made you guys confused especially Professional1... The HRDC exempted that I was asking is...."am I exempted from getting ARRANGED EMPLoYMENT OPINION from HRDC?" Coz from my early research, Since I am working in Canada with the approval of HRDC(positive LMO) and my job falls to NOC 0 or a or b and the fact that my employer given me the letter that they are willing to continue a permanent fulltime position then my case fall to Arranged emplyment that doesn't need AEO. This is my sole concern from the beginning of this topic, ofcourse I don't want to get AEO if a letter from my employer would suffice the requirements of Arranged employment.

Just for clarification, My work permit is NOT exempted by HRDC in getting LMO. I didn't study here in Canada nor a spouse or commonlaw and not even intra-company transfer. Please be advised that everytime I change my work or renew my work permit, positive LMO is required.

This forum, with the help of the both of you enlightened me up. Thank you so much!

 

[sadiqmaknojia]

any one awear of the hassle for the employer getting hrdc approval

1- how long it take to get hrdc approval?
2- any cost involve?
3- whats the procedure?

 

[buboy]

Hi Cathy2381,

Go and apply and you will get additional 15 points. No need HRSDC confirmation if you are applying for category 1. It says in updated OPS6 that an applicant will be awarded 10 pts if you have arrange employment and yours are one(working inside Canada on a temporary permit)regardless your employer gave you or not a permanent offer. Me too is working at Canada and am confident that I could get extra 10 pts under arranged employment and another 5 pts on adaptability. Am working here for almost 8 months only and under 6131 applied when I was 4 months old working here.

Go Cathy and you will get it. God Bless.

Kabayan

 

[professional 1]

any one awear of the hassle for the employer getting hrdc approval

1- how long it take to get hrdc approval?
2- any cost involve?
3- whats the procedure?

Have a look at those links :


http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/forms/emp5275e.pdf


http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/eng/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/aehrdcassess.shtml

 

[sehrish]

what about if an international student in canada ,that has off campus work permit,with part time job ,is offered a full time permanent job .
can he apply for FSW2 ?
is he exempt from HRSDC? or his employer needs to approve from HRSDC?


thanks a lot in advance

 

[sehrish]

P.S i mean if the student is promised that upon getting PR he will be offered job (AEO)

 

[echoes1978]

Hello,

I have a question about AEO approval.

If I come to work to Canada through open work permit (IEC program), and I find a job in NOC 0, A or B group, and after 6 months that employer wants to give me permanent job offer, do I need to get HRSDC confirmation (AEO), or his letter is enough to apply for FSW2 application?

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hello,

I have a question about AEO approval.

If I come to work to Canada through open work permit (IEC program), and I find a job in NOC 0, A or B group, and after 6 months that employer wants to give me permanent job offer, do I need to get HRSDC confirmation (AEO), or his letter is enough to apply for FSW2 application?

You need an AEO as the work permit was issued under under 205(b) of the Regulations.

 

[sehrish]

now i know i dont need any HRSDC confirmation of my AEO to apply for FSW2 .
nobody could answer my query .
the best source is the CIC website .
thanks all anyways