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CanadaVisaForumMember

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Its a pity you just found out about the mistake in your application. It can really upset your peace of mind as you don't know what the officer might be thinking. However, I can say that generally, the VO's are not that bad persons (although there are still terrible ones) who want to refuse applications.

Not declaring your US visa refusal might or might not pose enough "material issue" to your PR application that will warrant either a refusal or ban. I think that at the worst case scenario, the visa officer should contact you with a "procedural fairness" which you have to answer within the specified time. So, you have a chance to clear yourself.

Having said that, I do not think that your initial US visa refusal will result to any negative stuff (since you weren't refused due to any criminal issue or the likes) and given that you were subsequently issued the visa and have even visited a couple of times makes it a whole lot easier.

Just be positive (pray if you do) and relax. You should be fine.
Wonderful reply, @Rijo02
 
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anand4udel

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Nov 3, 2017
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I have a query.

I am in discussion with my current company for job in Canada. Since they have presence in Canada.

I know that, after I have a job offer. I can update the same to CIC, using web form. My question is, will they give me permission to join canada office ASAP. Since my PR process is ongoing.

If yes, then it would be on work permit or PR process will be expedited.

Or what would be best way to approach, so that I can join canada OFFICE ASAP.

BR
Anand
 

bimale4bipeople

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Apr 15, 2018
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I have a query.
I am in discussion with my current company for job in Canada. Since they have presence in Canada.
I know that, after I have a job offer. I can update the same to CIC, using web form. My question is, will they give me permission to join canada office ASAP. Since my PR process is ongoing.
If yes, then it would be on work permit or PR process will be expedited.
Or what would be best way to approach, so that I can join canada OFFICE ASAP.
BR
Anand
Not sure where your current PR application process stands. I beileve you have requested for GCMS notes mid of this month, which you should get by mid of next month.

These days WP processing time from India is 15 weeks.
You can have your employer start WP processing in parallel. These 2 applications will have a -ve or +ve influence on each other tbh.
 

ajeet.ims

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Jul 3, 2017
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While most of the applicants from May/Jun/July are still waiting, someone with AOR 1st August already got the PPR. It strengthens my belief that your application is unique in itself and can not be compared with anyone. Also, there is nothing like a slow or fast VO as they must be doing equal load distribution to each VO and officers must be bound to follow SLAs so they can not just hold a file for no reason. Only if there is something that can not be verified, it will trigger additional checks and in turn result in delay in processing.
Hang in tight there friends, we all will get there soon. Wishing all of us speedy PPR.
 
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Rijo02

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May 2, 2018
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While most of the applicants from May/Jun/July are still waiting, someone with AOR 1st August already got the PPR. It strengthens my belief that your application is unique in itself and can not be compared with anyone. Also, there is nothing like a slow or fast VO as they must be doing equal load distribution to each VO and officers must be bound to follow SLAs so they can not just hold a file for no reason.
Hang in tight there friends, we all will get there soon. Wishing all of us speedy PPR.
@ajeet.ims, no offence but I actually disagree with you. In as much as there are "excellent" applications that can be processed very fast since all the information the VO need are easy to find, some VO's can still delay a process when compared to another. There are multiple instances for which I can use to buttress my opinion:

1) No 2 persons have the same work rate. It is very obvious that members of a team cannot always complete a given task with the same pace. While some enjoy what they do and are happy doing it, many are just there for the pay. Even those who enjoy what they do can be very picky and would take days to reach to a decision while some "I don't care" officers will just easily look for the basic information and move on. Also, don't be surprised if I say that some VO's don't even like the whole Immigration program but don't have a choice than do what they are asked to do.

2) CIC expansion of processing center with new VO's handling new roles. So, due to the high number of PR applicants, CIC has increased the number of offices in Canada that process PR. Hence, officers in those offices will have to learn on the job. Now, experience comes into the equation. How much file can this officer process? This implies a reduced efficiency in processing a file than an "Ottawa" office who already knows the robes.

3) Human factor: CIC is not different from any government office. So, the human factor still plays its role. If an officer is assigned a batch of PR application, the timeline for those applications have been slated. If you have actually looked at a GCMS note, there is a due date for the VO which for the most part is not usually adhered to. I do not mean to disparage the officers, but I am sure that some officers will slowly or "lazily" take their time as the 6 months processing time have not elapsed.

To conclude, if applications are that difficult, why is it that once an application reaches the 6 months mark and CIC is contacted, the applicant usually get the PR within few days? Answering this question might make my point clearer too.

#Justmyopinion
 

matper18

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Aug 16, 2018
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While most of the applicants from May/Jun/July are still waiting, someone with AOR 1st August already got the PPR. It strengthens my belief that your application is unique in itself and can not be compared with anyone. Also, there is nothing like a slow or fast VO as they must be doing equal load distribution to each VO and officers must be bound to follow SLAs so they can not just hold a file for no reason. Only of there is something that can not be verified, it will trigger additional checks and in turn result in delay in processing.
Hang in tight there friends, we all will get there soon. Wishing all of us speedy PPR.

I do think however that the ones that fall "under review" are sort of forgotten, or at least are not the priority anymore. Which saddens me because that is what's happening with my application. 135 since AOR and counting....
 

cansha

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Aug 1, 2018
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@ajeet.ims, no offence but I actually disagree with you. In as much as there are "excellent" applications that can be processed very fast since all the information the VO need are easy to find, some VO's can still delay a process when compared to another. There are multiple instances for which I can use to buttress my opinion:

1) No 2 persons have the same work rate. It is very obvious that members of a team cannot always complete a given task with the same pace. While some enjoy what they do and are happy doing it, many are just there for the pay. Even those who enjoy what they do can be very picky and would take days to reach to a decision while some "I don't care" officers will just easily look for the basic information and move on. Also, don't be surprised if I say that some VO's don't even like the whole Immigration program but don't have a choice than do what they are asked to do.

2) CIC expansion of processing center with new VO's handling new roles. So, due to the high number of PR applicants, CIC has increased the number of offices in Canada that process PR. Hence, officers in those offices will have to learn on the job. Now, experience comes into the equation. How much file can this officer process? This implies a reduced efficiency in processing a file than an "Ottawa" office who already knows the robes.

3) Human factor: CIC is not different from any government office. So, the human factor still plays its role. If an officer is assigned a batch of PR application, the timeline for those applications have been slated. If you have actually looked at a GCMS note, there is a due date for the VO which for the most part is not usually adhered to. I do not mean to disparage the officers, but I am sure that some officers will slowly or "lazily" take their time as the 6 months processing time have not elapsed.

To conclude, if applications are that difficult, why is it that once an application reaches the 6 months mark and CIC is contacted, the applicant usually get the PR within few days? Answering this question might make my point clearer too.

#Justmyopinion
Couldn't agree more to this. And of course there are fast and slow visa offices / officers.
 

vicky5676

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May 12, 2018
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Please help!!!!
I get AOR at April 27, but last weekend I noticed I made a mistake in my application. For the question "Have you even been refused a visa or permit, denied entry or ordered to leave Canada, or any other country". I provided "No" as me answer in the application. However, I had received a rejection at the first time when I was applying US travel Visa. but I got approval on the second and third time apply. I went to US few times for traveling.
I have already submitted an "letter of explanation" through Web form on Sunday. The agent told me my BGC is still in progress. and it takes about 5-10 business days for them to receive my letter.

Anyone has the same issue before? I was sooooo worried. I don't want to get a refuse and I don't want to get banned for 5 yrs.

Please give me some advise! Anyone has similar experience before?

Thanks!!!!!



Just noticed that i had made a similar mistake. I am dependent applicant. My first ttavel visa to germany waa refused but they approved the visa on next attempt.

But i had selected option No in filling a form where it was asked if you visa is refused by any country?

I have not yet declared this and little worried now. Shall i send a LOE for this or it is fine since i got thrle visa for same country in second attempt?

Please help.
 

Cinnnnndy

Newbie
Aug 10, 2018
8
15
Hello Everyone,

Happy to share with you guys I finally got my PPR "Ready for Visa" mail today on Aug 24th!!!! Here is my timeline:

ITA: Apr 25th
AOR: Apr 27th
IP1: May 1th
IP2: May 4th
1st Ghost Updates: Aug 3rd
Submitted Letter of Explanation: Aug 18th (For clarify 1st US visa rejection issue)
2nd Ghost Updates: Aug 24th
PPR: Aug 24th

I hope everyone can get PPR soon! Cross finger for all of you!!!!
 

Cinnnnndy

Newbie
Aug 10, 2018
8
15
Just noticed that i had made a similar mistake. I am dependent applicant. My first ttavel visa to germany waa refused but they approved the visa on next attempt.

But i had selected option No in filling a form where it was asked if you visa is refused by any country?

I have not yet declared this and little worried now. Shall i send a LOE for this or it is fine since i got thrle visa for same country in second attempt?

Please help.
Just sharing good news with you. I got my PPR today. So please relax, it will not causing a big problem! I submitted a letter of explanation on Aug 18th. I spoke to an agent this Monday, and they suggest me to send them a letter of explanation with a IMM5669 attached through web form. With a letter of explanation, at least it will reduce the possibility that they give you a 5 years ban. Good Luck to you!!!
 

vicky5676

Member
May 12, 2018
10
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Just sharing good news with you. I got my PPR today. So please relax, it will not causing a big problem! I submitted a letter of explanation on Aug 18th. I spoke to an agent this Monday, and they suggest me to send them a letter of explanation with a IMM5669 attached through web form. With a letter of explanation, at least it will reduce the possibility that they give you a 5 years ban. Good Luck to you!!!
That's good news. Congratulations.

So do i need to provide all the details again in IMM5669 or just tick the visa refusal section with letter of explanation. Please provide your input so that i will also send the details
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
19,048
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I don’t know what to say dear,
@legalfalcon is it something you can answer?
@mama800 As per the regulations the primary applicant cannot be changed once the application has been filed. If the PA has to be changed, then the current application has to be withdrawn or closed and a new one filed with the new processing fee.

However, in some cases IRCC will consider humanitarian and compassionate grounds to replace the PA in the application. The death of a PA, is one such case where H & C grounds will factor in.
 
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Cinnnnndy

Newbie
Aug 10, 2018
8
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That's good news. Congratulations.

So do i need to provide all the details again in IMM5669 or just tick the visa refusal section with letter of explanation. Please provide your input so that i will also send the details
I provided all details again in IMM5669. This form id not as long as PR application form. Takes you about 10 mins to finish.