Applying for PR after under graduation in Canada

[Paparazzi]

Hi guys,
I am an Indian national. My daughter wants to do her under graduation in Psychology. We were thinking of either Canada or the UK. Assessing the 2, we see points both for and against education in each of these places.

On concern with regards to Canada however is that we were recently told by an agent that stay back after under graduation is no longer counted towards the years when applying for PR. Is this true? Can someone advise on the possibilities / options for PR while or after under graduating?

It would be a bonus if someone can also give their thoughts on the advantage / disadvantage of Canadian / UK education.

Thanks

 

[Leon]

It was very simple in past years to come in as a student, get an open work permit after graduation, get a skilled job, work for 1 year and then apply. However, now since they started the new program express entry, you can qualify to pre-apply but only the highest scorers will be invited to apply for PR for real. The scores are based on age, education, work experience, language skills etc.

In the last round, they invited 779 people to apply and the lowest score was 818 points. Without either arranged employment or a nomination from a province, you will not get more than 600 points. Arranged employment means that your employer has gained an LMIA for you (labour market impact assessment) and is offering you a permanent full time job. Many employers who would otherwise give a job to a student who has an open work permit would not bother applying for an LMIA for them because 1) they know they wont get it, 2) it's paperwork and hassle, 3) it costs them money. The employer wont get an LMIA unless he can prove that he looked high and low for Canadians to hire and couldn't get any, yet he is paying market wage which according to the authorities is sometimes higher than the real market wage on the market which causes the employer another problem because he may have to offer this person a higher salary than he is paying his other Canadian employees who are doing the same job.

For a student, this does however leave open the option of PNP (provincial nominee program). You'd have to check the different provincial nominee programs in the province she plans to study. Some of them have special programs for graduates and how they can fulfill requirements to apply. However, you have no guarantee either by the time she completes her studies that the rules will still be the same by then.

 

[Paparazzi]

Thank you so much Leon!

Really appreciate the detailed reply! Was in a quandary with regards to education in the UK & Canada and one of the points that weighed in on the latter's side was the option to apply for PR. Given the circumstance, I'll check with my daughter if she would consider the UK as Canada is way too far for us.

Two things:
a) The UK has a 3 year bachelor's course and you add one more year and to get a Master's. Wonder how WES would treat this? As a post graduation or just a 4 year bachelor degree? I did my 2 year post grad in India after doing a 3 year grad and yet WES thought that by 3 year grad is equal to the Canadian 3 year course, but that my 2 year Master's was equal to only a 4 year bachelor's and not a post graduation. Wonder if it will be different if the education is done in the UK.

b) How do you thank a helpful forumer? I wanted to click a "Thanks" button, but found none

All the same ... Thanks a ton

 

[Leon]

Thank you so much Leon!

Really appreciate the detailed reply! Was in a quandary with regards to education in the UK & Canada and one of the points that weighed in on the latter's side was the option to apply for PR. Given the circumstance, I'll check with my daughter if she would consider the UK as Canada is way too far for us.

Two things:
a) The UK has a 3 year bachelor's course and you add one more year and to get a Master's. Wonder how WES would treat this? As a post graduation or just a 4 year bachelor degree? I did my 2 year post grad in India after doing a 3 year grad and yet WES thought that by 3 year grad is equal to the Canadian 3 year course, but that my 2 year Master's was equal to only a 4 year bachelor's and not a post graduation. Wonder if it will be different if the education is done in the UK.

b) How do you thank a helpful forumer? I wanted to click a "Thanks" button, but found none

All the same ... Thanks a ton

I don't know how they would treat it. They have their rules that they go by and they may take into account the time spent getting the degree and not just what the name of it is.

There is no thanks button There is a scoring system where you can vote up a user by clicking good or poor under their username although I think it would actually be more helpful to have a scoring system for individual posts instead.