Apply for Passport outside Canada after Oath Ceremony

[sfmoosavian]

It shows that the officer doesn't work for Passport Canada, he has no idea what he's saying. Not everything the employees of the government say should be taken face value, especially when it contradicts the official websites.
Family members of mine also applied for their first passport from outside Canada, absolutely no problem. Don't overthink it.

Ok, thank you for confirming this again. I would stop overthinking

 

[mcop]

Does someone know if the guarantor and references are actually contacted to verify they know us?

I'm curious to know what they would ask. My husband didn't make friends in Canada, as he works online. And I would have to ask my work friends to be his references and guarantor.

 

[xf2278389393]

It shows that the officer doesn't work for Passport Canada, he has no idea what he's saying. Not everything the employees of the government say should be taken face value, especially when it contradicts the official websites.
Family members of mine also applied for their first passport from outside Canada, absolutely no problem. Don't overthink it.

Passport Canada was dissolved on July 1, 2013. IRCC has taken over the passport decision making and printing functions, while Service Canada and missions abroad provide the front counter services. I do agree though that the officer is mistaken and seemingly unaware that passports can be issued outside Canada.

 

[forw.jane]

Does someone know if the guarantor and references are actually contacted to verify they know us?

I'm curious to know what they would ask. My husband didn't make friends in Canada, as he works online. And I would have to ask my work friends to be his references and guarantor.

For normal passport processing, they typically aren't contacted. However, for urgent and express cases, they do get called.
Your guarantor and references should be informed about the information you provide in Sections 1(minus mother surname at birth) and Section 7 of the form.
Consider briefing your work friends on these details in case they are contacted.

 

[Seym]

Passport Canada was dissolved on July 1, 2013. IRCC has taken over the passport decision making and printing functions, while Service Canada and missions abroad provide the front counter services. I do agree though that the officer is mistaken and seemingly unaware that passports can be issued outside Canada.

Thank you for the information!

 

[armoured]

I do agree though that the officer is mistaken and seemingly unaware that passports can be issued outside Canada.

Not defending the employee who doesn't know what they're talking about, but I can see how this could get garbled.

Years ago passports could be printed / finalized abroad. Some embassies and consulates etc had blanks, and they could print them on the spot. But they centralized it for security reasons, and of course with newer hi-tech passports, it's a lot more complicated. I think there are only a handful of locations where they physically print them (but don't know the numbers).

But of course you can still apply for one abroad. They'll still print one with issuing office listed as London or Jakarta or Canberra or whatever (I know, I have one, the 'whatever'). Just it'll be printed in Canada somewhere and sent to the mission abroad. Same with most of the 'passport offices' in Canada, really - it might say North York or Regina but be physically produced somewhere else. (This whole idea of the issuing office might be a bit antiquated, if we're being honest)

It takes a little longer if you're abroad but not that long. To the user it's mostly the same except for the timing.

Anyway you can see how some employee with only a bit of training picks up the info and gets it a bit wrong: instead of issuance (in the sense of 'production/printing') of passports is centralized in Canada, they hear words with overlapping meaning like 'issuance' and get that to mean you have to do it all in Canada.

*I presume, well, I kind of know, they have SOME ability to print some sort of emergency travel docs / 'passports' of limited validity in the consular offices. But they are quite strict about these, and you won't get one unless it's an actual emergency. And it might only be valid for days or weeks, only for travel to Canada, and it won't look like the fancy passports with all the embedded security features, etc - that requires special equipment.

 

[mcop]

For normal passport processing, they typically aren't contacted. However, for urgent and express cases, they do get called.
Your guarantor and references should be informed about the information you provide in Sections 1(minus mother surname at birth) and Section 7 of the form.
Consider briefing your work friends on these details in case they are contacted.

Thank you for the information. It was super helpful!!

 

[mcop]

I'll be in Canada next week to take my oath.

And I saw in another comment that you can fill the application ahead of time, then get your guarantor to sign the form and pictures before flying overseas.

I have a couple questions in regards to that:

1 - Do I need to print the form for my guarantor to sign?

2 - Should my guarantor sign the document with the exact date of signing OR is it okay if I ask them to use a future date? I plan to apply for my passport here in Europe right after I'm back from Canada.