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[Cam1234]

Yes, thanks for the analysis - but I regrettably cannot agree that an applicant gets PER in between assessing the 1 year work experience and assesing the selection criteria/67 points. People have been refused, without PER, for insufficient points. How could they get that refusal if visa office did the 67 point check after issuing PER?

Last time I checked

Hi Wayne:

While I agree with what you are saying, I was only reporting what is written in the OP6, without any analysis of my own. Maybe you could read those sections for yourself... I don't have an answer for your question, could it be that CIO does not strictly follow their own published guidelines?? I don't know...

Cam

 

[architect_100]

Hello everyone:
OP6 page 28 section 11.1
OP6 Page 45 section 13.2
I hope everyone finds the above information useful...
Cam

NO DOUBT IT"S USEFUL , many thanks CAM
Please can you provide the link for the full OP6 ??
Thanks in advance
Cheers

 

[anil04_10]

Anilbhai,

My PER is here for me... Thank you GOD for everything.... MY details are:
1122 | Sent: 18-Sep-2010 | Received: 23-Sep-2010 | BD: 08-Oct-2010 | PER: 27-Jan-2010

Please add the details and turn it neela.

CONGRATULATIONS mptocanada ....

You have been painted blue long time back ...... , Now it is you to turn green.... under ND tracker.....

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tNybiwrlKwXBGteBb0zpdCw&authkey=CNqatbgL#gid=0

Cheers, Anil

 

[Cam1234]

NO DOUBT IT"S USEFUL , many thanks CAM
Please can you provide the link for the full OP6 ??
Thanks in advance
Cheers

Hi architect_100:

Here you go...
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

Cam

 

[Advance123]

Yes, thanks for the analysis - but I regrettably cannot agree that an applicant gets PER in between assessing the 1 year work experience and assesing the selection criteria/67 points. People have been refused, without PER, for insufficient points. How could they get that refusal if visa office did the 67 point check after issuing PER?

Last time I checked

I'm sorry Wayne but these are the criteria by which CIC process applications. I've read them myself. It has little to do with what any of us agree with or not. These are also the points, including precedence, on which lawyers make a case for a refused application.

Non of us have superior knowledge to CIC and if they say these are the rules, these are the rules.

 

[marocain]

I'm sorry Wayne but these are the criteria by which CIC process applications. I've read them myself. It has little to do with what any of us agree with or not. These are also the points, including precedence, on which lawyers make a case for a refused application.

Non of us have superior knowledge to CIC and if they say these are the rules, these are the rules.

As cappucino said, many guys were rejected because of not reaching 67 points, which means that the PER is received after the 67 points check and just before the application is sent to the VO.

The delay between the PER and VO sign is purely due to the VO, for example it takes up to 20 weeks in Buffalo before they contact the applicants.

 

[Pippin]

Could we be reading TOO much into the CIC docs? Perhaps OP6 was just poorly written and they got the sequence of events in the wrong order. I also find it hard to believe a PER would be given prior to a preliminary point count. To base PER solely on meeting MI of one year employment in NOC 29 sounds like a time waster to me. My 5 cents (2 cents + HST).

 

[Cam1234]

Yes, thanks for the analysis - but I regrettably cannot agree that an applicant gets PER in between assessing the 1 year work experience and assesing the selection criteria/67 points. People have been refused, without PER, for insufficient points. How could they get that refusal if visa office did the 67 point check after issuing PER?

Last time I checked

Hello again:

Well, I went over the OP6 and re-read some parts and you may be correct, read below:

Section 7.3. Applications that meet the criteria of the Ministerial Instructions issued June 26, 2010

If the application is determined to meet the criteria of the MI and to be eligible for processing, the
CIO will proceed to processing the application against the FSW minimal requirements and the
cost recovery fee is no longer refundable.
If Then the application corresponds to the Instructions,
-The CIO will proceed with processing the application against
FSW minimal requirements (Section 11).

It doesn't actually say that after meeting MI requirements, that a PER is issued then the minimal requirements are assessed... I cannot locate where I read that. OP6 is very confusing, parts of it are guidelines for pre Feb 2007, parts are for post Feb 2007 to June 26 2010 and parts are for post June 26 2010... To complicate matters more there are parts that serve as guidelines for all periods mentioned above ??? In order to get a full understanding of everything, one has to read the whole guideline in its entirety.

Cam

Edit: The main point of concern for me was not the above, it was what will take place at the VO... where an officer at the VO will go over the entire application and make a selection decision...

 

[Advance123]

As cappucino said, many guys were rejected because of not reaching 67 points, which means that the PER is received after the 67 points check and just before the application is sent to the VO.

The delay between the PER and VO sign is purely due to the VO, for example it takes up to 20 weeks in Buffalo before they contact the applicants.

Calling it PER is certainly confusing many. It is actually an AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt). This has nothing to do with eligibilty rather it is issued after completeness to indicate that CIC has received your application. They are simply acknowledging receipt. The only problem is that CIC does not issue AORs with regularity. Why, I don't know. Once AOR is approved the review of documentation proceeds. On completion of the review it is passed on to the VO for verification and the issue of Visas. They expect that once completeness check has been carried out, applications are good enough to be sent to the VOs where visa officers will verify documentation. The final decision is with the VO not with CIC.

 

[PJ126]

Hi, please add me to the list.

Local Office: Buffalo
NOC # 1233

Applied on 12/10/2010
Accepted on 12/20/2010
Debit CC on 12/23/2010

Currently waiting for my PER.

 

[CanadaJimmy]

Calling it PER is certainly confusing many. It is actually an AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt). This has nothing to do with eligibilty rather it is issued after completeness to indicate that CIC has received your application.

No offense, but thats BS.

The AOR did not indicate that anything had been verified anything in the documents (besides completeness) and often came after a much shorter period, sometimes as little as 2 weeks.

The Eligibility Review (be it PER or NER) involves much more thorough examination of the documents involved. It's much more than just an Acknowledgement of Receipt, not to mention the original AORs had "Acknowledgement of Receipt" in the subject line. Our emails do not, they're a completely different format.

 

[Amro Elsayed]

Hi Guys
I have been a mute spectator to this forum
Please add me to your spreadsheet.
Here are the details

Category........: FSW1
Visa Office......: Buffalo
NOC Code......: 3131
App. Filed.......: Received 24th Sep 2010
Doc's Request.: Sent with app
AOR Received.: 26-1-2011
IELTS Request: Sent with app
PCC: not send

Have a good day

congratulation for the PER please can you provide us with the payment date thanks alot

Amro

 

[marocain]

Calling it PER is certainly confusing many. It is actually an AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt). This has nothing to do with eligibilty rather it is issued after completeness to indicate that CIC has received your application. They are simply acknowledging receipt. The only problem is that CIC does not issue AORs with regularity. Why, I don't know. Once AOR is approved the review of documentation proceeds. On completion of the review it is passed on to the VO for verification and the issue of Visas. They expect that once completeness check has been carried out, applications are good enough to be sent to the VOs where visa officers will verify documentation. The final decision is with the VO not with CIC.

I think you mean CIO and not CIC in your post, because CIO and VO are both part of CIC.

 

[canady]

Calling it PER is certainly confusing many. It is actually an AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt). This has nothing to do with eligibilty rather it is issued after completeness to indicate that CIC has received your application. They are simply acknowledging receipt. The only problem is that CIC does not issue AORs with regularity. Why, I don't know. Once AOR is approved the review of documentation proceeds. On completion of the review it is passed on to the VO for verification and the issue of Visas. They expect that once completeness check has been carried out, applications are good enough to be sent to the VOs where visa officers will verify documentation. The final decision is with the VO not with CIC.

I disagree with you, my friend.

It is so much more than an AOR.

Based on a review of the information you have provided, your application has received a positive final determination of eligibility for processing

The CIC can't write the "final" word in such a formal way without meaning it.

 

[Advance123]

No offense, but thats BS.

The AOR did not indicate that anything had been verified anything in the documents (besides completeness) and often came after a much shorter period, sometimes as little as 2 weeks.

The Eligibility Review (be it PER or NER) involves much more thorough examination of the documents involved. It's much more than just an Acknowledgement of Receipt, not to mention the original AORs had "Acknowledgement of Receipt" in the subject line. Our emails do not, they're a completely different format.

2 Weeks? Clearly the application tracker indicates that the shortest time period for receiving the AOR is 93 days. Thats more than 2 weeks. There is nothing like PER in CIC vocabulary. PER was created on this forum to give a positive tilt to the process and to encourage forum members.

The VO will also issue an AOR but not until they are ready to process your application. I'm sure the applications that have received AORs are already at the VOs but it will not be acknowledged until somebody picks it up for processing.