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[mycan]

Oops. Good info. +1 for you.

The Canadian government is considering cancelling all the backlog applications.

Danger for all old applicants.

Read

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/03/07/pol-immigration-backlog-kenney.html

 

[mycan]

You are right. This will definately happen. Europe will get priority.

I guess that's the case.

Presently Canada seems to be speeding up job offer applications to people from Ireland, Greece and other struggling European countries.

The decision will make it harder for people from the developing world to get in because some employers may choose to exhibit some prejudice.

 

[Cappuccino]

Anyone familiar with the Canadian skilled worker PR programme over the last few years can not say they didn't see that coming. We may be witnessing the last call for the FSW1 mate.

9j

This is why I think an LMO/AEO exemption system for jobs which are "in-demand" would be a good compromise to replace FSW1 with. You wouldn't have immigrants arriving with no job, but it would be easier for immigrants with in-demand skills to get the jobs in the first place.

Wayne.

 

[Cappuccino]

The countries you mentioned further solidifies my claim.

They are either European, North American or the countries of the influential BRICS and I'm sure most of them including yourself did not qualify through the work permit route.

My point is that if the process is based on getting a job offer someone from a country like Mali or Sri Lanka etc will be by-passed.

Europe, North America and BRICS make up a LOT of countries. I don't think you can really pigeonhole the system by saying that people only got a job because they're part of that group.

Of I can't comment from personal experience since I have never tried the job offer route. We were thinking we would have to go this route when we started looking at Canada immigration in early 2009, but by the time we'd got into a position where we were thinking of making the move, the rules had changed bringing Industrial Pharmacy onto the list and we were fortunate enough to be able to apply under FSW1 with my wife's work experience.

But drawing from the experience of others I've spoken to who have gone down the job offer route, I think it's far more about personal communication and determination than about which country you're from.

What evidence do you have to indicate that prospective employers by-pass people from certain countries?

And how many copies of Catcher In The Rye do you own?

Wayne.

 

[Cappuccino]

Kenney and his government should go! It's incredible how he keeps proposing ridiculous measures that work for no one. In two years immigration laws have been changed three times. And now he's considering eliminating the backlog by eliminating applications? Is he nuts? What he's basically telling all of us who have been waiting for over a year, paying for all kind paper work and having our lives in constant limbo : tough, and deal with it! Instead of hiring more people at visa offices and making sure they're efficient , it's the applicants that are getting the blame. Unbelievable.

I wonder if I can do the same thing at work? I can clear my queue of software issues a lot faster by simply deleting them and pretending they never existed........

Wayne.

 

[mandiebraxton]

The countries you mentioned further solidifies my claim.

They are either European, North American or the countries of the influential BRICS and I'm sure most of them including yourself did not qualify through the work permit route.

My point is that if the process is based on getting a job offer someone from a country like Mali or Sri Lanka etc will be by-passed.

I share your sentiments 100%....it would be very easy for someone Europe and other parts of the world to get that job offer than someone from Mali, Sri Lanka. Those from the developed countries can waltz into Canada (without the need of a visitor's visa) and get a job offer and then apply for the FSW in their home country. What about those who even a visitor's visa is a hurdle in itself? Furthermore, someone with a UK, Australian, New Zealand, or even American experience will be much preferred than someone who had Malian or Sri Lankan experience.. It is when these people from the 'under-privileged' part of the world go to Canada, do they upgrade themselves (with time) to the Canadian standard, gain the experience and with luck able to get into their field of work. If the job offer pre-requisite sets in, it's like taking away the very thing such applicants need in order to immigrate to Canada. Going the job offer route will just cut off people from certain parts of the world from the FSW route, period! My two cents
Mandie

 

[9jcanada]

This is why I think an LMO/AEO exemption system for jobs which are "in-demand" would be a good compromise to replace FSW1 with. You wouldn't have immigrants arriving with no job, but it would be easier for immigrants with in-demand skills to get the jobs in the first place.

Wayne.

Not a bad idea Wayne. A similar system exists in the US for the HIB and employment based green card scheme. The only challenge as Advanced and mandiebraxton pointed out is that it limits the chances for applicants from certain parts of the globe as employers tend to stick to countries where they are familiar with or have established links. Having followed the evolution of the US employment based immigration system over the years and the current Canadian trend, I have to say, your idea is more likely to be the way things are going to go. I still don't see the sense in litigating away old applications though.

9j

 

[harry_aussie]

Guys i know this will be morally wrong to eliminate the backlog. If we consider economy it will be a wise move by Canadian immigration. Many of the backlog guys might be now in their 50's and considering their age they dont have much left to offer to Canadian economy. Soon after coming to Canada they will start receiving benifits and will be a burden on young immigrants. Canada is already facing a problem of ageing population more burden would be desasterous.

Many of the backlog applicants will be taking up survival jobs and because of their ripe age they wont be interested in upgrading their skills. As new immigrants most of us will also start off with survival jobs and will have to face much more competition even in survival jobs. Please note by backlog i mean applications made before 2008. Applications 2008 onwards should be processed.

 

[9jcanada]

Guys i know this will be morally wrong to eliminate the backlog. If we consider economy it will be a wise move by Canadian immigration. Many of the backlog guys might be now in their 50's and considering their age they dont have much left to offer to Canadian economy. Soon after coming to Canada they will start receiving benifits and will be a burden on young immigrants. Canada is already facing a problem of ageing population more burden would be desasterous.

Many of the backlog applicants will be taking up survival jobs and because of their ripe age they wont be interested in upgrading their skills. As new immigrants most of us will also start off with survival jobs and will have to face much more competition even in survival jobs. Please note by backlog i mean applications made before 2008. Applications 2008 onwards should be processed.

Wow! That's quite a big generalization there mate. Care to share what stat or source you based such a far reaching conclusion on?

 

[harry_aussie]

Dear 9jcanada

This is very true picture and can be easily understood. You dont need stats to say this. My relatives, who have been living there for over 25 years, my immigrant friends who are in canada from last 6 years and completed their studies there and last but not least my wife living in canada for more than 2 years. These are my real time sources.

 

[Advance123]

Europe, North America and BRICS make up a LOT of countries. I don't think you can really pigeonhole the system by saying that people only got a job because they're part of that group.

Of I can't comment from personal experience since I have never tried the job offer route. We were thinking we would have to go this route when we started looking at Canada immigration in early 2009, but by the time we'd got into a position where we were thinking of making the move, the rules had changed bringing Industrial Pharmacy onto the list and we were fortunate enough to be able to apply under FSW1 with my wife's work experience.

But drawing from the experience of others I've spoken to who have gone down the job offer route, I think it's far more about personal communication and determination than about which country you're from.

What evidence do you have to indicate that prospective employers by-pass people from certain countries?

And how many copies of Catcher In The Rye do you own?

Wayne.

I have loads of evidence of people who where never considered for the job route but who have eventually gone through the FSW1 route and have secured great jobs.

On the other hand I have a few European friends who have processed Canadian visa within 3 to 6 months of applying. Canada sends out agents to pro-actively recruit from Ireland, Greece etc but you never hear of the same for Africa, Asia etc except the BRICS nations.

If you follow the news over the past one year, it is evident that this is where immigration to Canada is tending towards,
.
If you can find me one African, based in Africa minus South Africa, who got a visa through the job route and not through student or any other route, I'll give you a dollar,

 

[AUA]

I have loads of evidence of people who where never considered for the job route but who have eventually gone through the FSW1 route and have secured great jobs.

On the other hand I have a few European friends who have processed Canadian visa within 3 to 6 months of applying. Canada sends out agents to pro-actively recruit from Ireland, Greece etc but you never hear of the same for Africa, Asia etc except the BRICS nations.

If you follow the news over the past one year, it is evident that this is where immigration to Canada is tending towards,
.
If you can find me one African, based in Africa minus South Africa, who got a visa through the job route and not through student or any other route, I'll give you a dollar,

One thing I will have to say about this matter is that you guys are making me change my mind, because I don't want to experience what one is currently going through in the UK, where you are lure to come and study for a degree and that after that you secure a good job, but later found out that the opposite is rather the case.

After graduating with a brilliant result, you finally find yourself scrambling for survival jobs rather than the professional ones all in the name that British jobs are for British people.

After they must have succeeded in collected your hard earn currency and milking you out of cash to run their economy.

Hope Canada is not the same kettle of fish. If not I would rather stay back in my country.

I don't want to be beating twice.

 

[Advance123]

One thing I will have to say about this matter is that you guys are making me change my mind, because I don't want to experience what one is currently going through in the UK, where you are lure to come and study for a degree and that after that you secure a good job, but later found out that the opposite is rather the case.

After graduating with a brilliant result, you finally find yourself scrambling for survival jobs rather than the professional ones all in the name that British jobs are for British people.

After they must have succeeded in collected your hard earn currency and milking you out of cash to run their economy.

Hope Canada is not the same kettle of fish. If not I would rather stay back in my country.

I don't want to be beating twice.

I hope that won't be the case for you but the statistics shows that new immigrants in general struggle to find good jobs when they arrive in Canada. It takes on average 5 years for their to be a rebalance.

Immigration is an act of faith and most people migrating are doing it to secure better opportunities for their children.

Forget fear and face what lies ahead with boldness while aspiring towards an excellent conclusion.

 

[9jcanada]

Dear 9jcanada

This is very true picture and can be easily understood. You dont need stats to say this. My relatives, who have been living there for over 25 years, my immigrant friends who are in canada from last 6 years and completed their studies there and last but not least my wife living in canada for more than 2 years. These are my real time sources.

There is a lot of gross assumptions akin on intellectual bankruptcy in your post one does not know even where to start. First off, knowing what you know and trusting what your wife and relatives tell you about these "hopeless immigrants", it is amazing you are still heading to Canada.

Many of the backlog guys might be now in their 50's and considering their age they dont have much left to offer to Canadian economy.

How more myopic can you get? Aren't you just lucky the Canadian authority are not as jaundiced in their view as you have displayed here to have allowed you in? Going by your gross generalization, you are going to be just another one of those potential liabilities on the system right?

What comparative information have you to suggest that any one of the so called "back loggers" would do worse than your lucky "fast trackers"?

Soon after coming to Canada they will start receiving benifits and will be a burden on young immigrants.

That coming from someone who hasn't even stepped their feet on Canadian soil is the peak of absurdity. Dude, stop getting ahead of yourself you haven't even got a job yet let alone paying a dime in tax. Get off the high house, will you! Do you know what prejudice is even if it hits you in the face? By your logic, how much do you think you should be making and within what time frame before the Canadian system considers you a liability?

The irony of this is that you might be right about some people not befitting of coming to Canada and since fact and introspection appears not to be your strongest point, can I suggest you pick up a mirror.

Not interested in pointless back and forth with you, just want to point out a few things should you are interested in some introspection.


All the best and get some more knowledge before you head to Canada.

9j

 

[9jcanada]

This is why I think an LMO/AEO exemption system for jobs which are "in-demand" would be a good compromise to replace FSW1 with. You wouldn't have immigrants arriving with no job, but it would be easier for immigrants with in-demand skills to get the jobs in the first place.

Wayne.

More and more developments are pointing to an exclusively employment based PR route in the future.

This might be one of those steps in that direction.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-03-07.asp