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anjuku

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Mar 6, 2012
408
45
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo (now transferred to Ottawa)
NOC Code......
4011 and 4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-04-2012
Doc's Request.
16-05-2013
Nomination.....
25-04-2012 (PER)
IELTS Request
SENT WITH APPLICATION (OVERALL BAND SCORE 8.5)
Med's Request
17-05-2013
Med's Done....
23-05-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
04-06-2013; Passports sent in on 22-06- 2013; Passports received by ottawa on 25-06-2013
VISA ISSUED...
visas received on July 9, 2013
LANDED..........
July 10, 2013
websphereguy said:
Got my PER today, 30th Apr. But not reflected in ecas as nothing came out of it yet.
Congrats webspherguy!!..my ECAS isn't updated either ::)
 

sam001

Hero Member
Apr 29, 2012
215
27
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-07-2014
AOR Received.
15-10-2014
IELTS Request
Sent with application
Med's Request
17-04-2015
Med's Done....
22-04-2015
Passport Req..
24-06-2015
LANDED..........
Sept 30, 2015
anjuku said:
Congrats webspherguy!!..my ECAS isn't updated either ::)
I can see my status on ECAS from the next day my CC was charged. it says "In process".but did not get any email..is that normal??
 

asbereth

Hero Member
Feb 17, 2012
866
43
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-02-2012<br>PR Fee Charged: 05-03-2012<br>PER Received..: 21-03-2012
Doc's Request.
26-02-2013<br>In process.....: 21-03-2013
Med's Request
22-03-2013
Med's Done....
26-03-2013 <br>Med's Received: 15-04-2013 <br>Decision Made: 15-04-2013
Passport Req..
16-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
29-04-2013 <br>COPR ISSUED..: 15-05-2013<br>VISA RECEIVED: 16-05-2013
LANDED..........
16-05-2013
sam001 said:
I can see my status on ECAS from the next day my CC was charged. it says "In process".but did not get any email..is that normal??
Hi sam001, just be patient. There could be several things in affecting how fast they will issue PER. Some applications are really straightforward (in terms of easiness to validate and number of points), and they get issued PER faster. Some others are a bit harder (maybe because they have more overseas work experience) and take longer. If you take a look at the timeline, you'll notice a lot of variations, and some applicants applied early but got their PER later (in fact, there are a lot of such cases).

Also, just curious, how many points are you expecting, and are you relying on the 5 previous study adaptability points to get above 67 points? Do you have any Canadian degree? I'm under the impression that they will only automatically assign the 5 adaptability points if you have a Canadian post-graduate degree, so you may (or may not) have to appeal for these points if it really comes down to them (two applicants here so far have appealed and successfully overturned their NER into PER by arguing for these adaptability points). Let us know and good luck :)

websphereguy said:
Got my PER today, 30th Apr. But not reflected in ecas as nothing came out of it yet.
Congrats websphereguy :D
 

aboshosha84

Newbie
May 1, 2012
8
0
Hi All,

I have just received the PER today May 1st 2012
I am a PhD candidate at UWO who finished 4 full time semesters (Equivalent to two years)
I am originally from Egypt
The application has 3 persons
My work experience included the TA/RA in addition to other work

My application is received in March 19th 2012
The Money Order was cashed on March 28th 2012
I got the PER on May 01st 2012

Snow walker: Could you update the Excel sheet and add my results, Your excel sheet helped me a lot understanding what is going on :)
Thank you guys for sharing these info with us :)

Aboshosha84
 

sam001

Hero Member
Apr 29, 2012
215
27
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-07-2014
AOR Received.
15-10-2014
IELTS Request
Sent with application
Med's Request
17-04-2015
Med's Done....
22-04-2015
Passport Req..
24-06-2015
LANDED..........
Sept 30, 2015
asbereth said:
Hi sam001, just be patient. There could be several things in affecting how fast they will issue PER. Some applications are really straightforward (in terms of easiness to validate and number of points), and they get issued PER faster. Some others are a bit harder (maybe because they have more overseas work experience) and take longer. If you take a look at the timeline, you'll notice a lot of variations, and some applicants applied early but got their PER later (in fact, there are a lot of such cases).

Also, just curious, how many points are you expecting, and are you relying on the 5 previous study adaptability points to get above 67 points? Do you have any Canadian degree? I'm under the impression that they will only automatically assign the 5 adaptability points if you have a Canadian post-graduate degree, so you may (or may not) have to appeal for these points if it really comes down to them (two applicants here so far have appealed and successfully overturned their NER into PER by arguing for these adaptability points). Let us know and good luck :)

Congrats websphereguy :D

Hi,
Yes I need those 5 points otherwise I get 66 points. I dont have canadian degree..I am depending on the 5 adaptability points..:(
 

asbereth

Hero Member
Feb 17, 2012
866
43
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-02-2012<br>PR Fee Charged: 05-03-2012<br>PER Received..: 21-03-2012
Doc's Request.
26-02-2013<br>In process.....: 21-03-2013
Med's Request
22-03-2013
Med's Done....
26-03-2013 <br>Med's Received: 15-04-2013 <br>Decision Made: 15-04-2013
Passport Req..
16-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
29-04-2013 <br>COPR ISSUED..: 15-05-2013<br>VISA RECEIVED: 16-05-2013
LANDED..........
16-05-2013
There have been cases where people got rejected for having only 66 points. They thought that they would get the 5 adaptability previous study points, but the CIO decided not to award them. Two applicants so far have appealed this decision, and got their negative assessment overturned, but it is still not clear yet whether awarding these 5 points for PhD stream applicants is something that they would do by default from now on. If I may conjecture, I think you may have to appeal as well, though hopefully they will just realize it and award you these 5 points.
 

websphereguy

Hero Member
Mar 28, 2012
356
17
Singapore
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
17 Jan 2014
Doc's Request.
send altogether during filing
Nomination.....
17 Apr 2014
Med's Request
23 Jun 2014
Med's Done....
02 Oct 2014
Interview........
none
Passport Req..
08 Apr 2015
VISA ISSUED...
27 Apr 2015
LANDED..........
02 May 2015
TyrusX / Snow_walker, pls do help to update the tracker. I got my PER on the 30th April :)
Thanks.
 

TyrusX

Champion Member
Feb 8, 2012
1,300
63
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-01-2012
Doc's Request.
sent with application
AOR Received.
First: -03-2012
IELTS Request
sent with application
websphereguy said:
TyrusX / Snow_walker, pls do help to update the tracker. I got my PER on the 30th April :)
Thanks.
updated. I was away. Terrible waiting for the AOR is killing me.
 

kg.jadu

Star Member
Apr 25, 2012
169
28
Good news!

Received the PER today after appealing NER (initially, the officer has not awarded me 5 points for my 3 years of study in Canada). Submitted my appeal last Thursday. It took less than a week, and it indeed worked! Current students are eligible for 5 adaptability points. Know of at least two other applicants from my school who did the same and were successful (plus two on this forum). Processing of the appeal can take any time between a few days (like for me) or a month (early applicants who got rejected).

In my understanding, we got NER in the first place because before June 2010, FSW applications were processed at individual visa offices. After the rules have changed in June 2010, initial processing moved on to the CPC in Sydney, but there were little to no students-in-progress applicants at that time because the FSW-3 stream was shut down. As a result, the immigration officers in Sydney didn't get enough experience with the applications from students, and now they have to deal with somewhat unfamiliar applicants who have studied in Canada for more than 2 years but do not have a Canadian degree. But of course, we are right, and that's precisely why appeals work.

I expect there will be less NERs due to 5 adaptability points. They might have already spotted the issue and done necessary training.

Please add me to the timeline.
PhD student in the 3d year, TA/RA (12--17 hrs/week) + some research experience from back home
Applied February 16, 2012
NER March 29, 2012
Appealed April 26, 2012
PER May 1, 2012
One person in the application
 

badalpharm

Star Member
Dec 21, 2011
188
11
Thunder Bay, ON, Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
3219
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-10-2013
Doc's Request.
no
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
25-11-2013
IELTS Request
sent with application
Med's Request
29-04-2014
Med's Done....
13-05-2014
Interview........
n/a
Passport Req..
21-01-2015
VISA ISSUED...
28-01-2015
LANDED..........
11-02-2015
aboshosha84 said:
Hi All,

I have just received the PER today May 1st 2012
I am a PhD candidate at UWO who finished 4 full time semesters (Equivalent to two years)
I am originally from Egypt
The application has 3 persons
My work experience included the TA/RA in addition to other work

My application is received in March 19th 2012
The Money Order was cashed on March 28th 2012
I got the PER on May 01st 2012

Snow walker: Could you update the Excel sheet and add my results, Your excel sheet helped me a lot understanding what is going on :)
Thank you guys for sharing these info with us :)

Aboshosha84
@ Aboshosha84 and other all seniors,

He said, he completed four full time semester (equivalent to 2 years). I did not get it.
My school has 3 quarters. Sept-Dec, Jan-April, and May-Aug, Now all undergrad has vacation in summer, but graduates are working.

So What is the rule, 4 semester, or 2 YEARS (730 DAYS).
 

asbereth

Hero Member
Feb 17, 2012
866
43
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
16-02-2012<br>PR Fee Charged: 05-03-2012<br>PER Received..: 21-03-2012
Doc's Request.
26-02-2013<br>In process.....: 21-03-2013
Med's Request
22-03-2013
Med's Done....
26-03-2013 <br>Med's Received: 15-04-2013 <br>Decision Made: 15-04-2013
Passport Req..
16-04-2013
VISA ISSUED...
29-04-2013 <br>COPR ISSUED..: 15-05-2013<br>VISA RECEIVED: 16-05-2013
LANDED..........
16-05-2013
kg.jadu said:
Please add me to the timeline.
PhD student in the 3d year, TA/RA (12--17 hrs/week) + some research experience from back home
Applied February 16, 2012
NER March 29, 2012
Appealed April 26, 2012
PER May 1, 2012
One person in the application
kg.jadu, congratulations!!! Anyway, can you share your nationality and the time when your credit card was charged? Also, in your NER letter, how many years of experience did you get credited? You mentioned that you had some experience back home, so I'm just wondering, how many hours did you claim, and how many years of experience did you get credited (based on what's written in your NER letter). I think this would be a valuable piece of information as it would give us some sort of a guideline as to whether our expectation of the number of work experience years matches their interpretation.

badalpharm said:
@ Aboshosha84 and other all seniors,

He said, he completed four full time semester (equivalent to 2 years). I did not get it.
My school has 3 quarters. Sept-Dec, Jan-April, and May-Aug, Now all undergrad has vacation in summer, but graduates are working.

So What is the rule, 4 semester, or 2 YEARS (730 DAYS).
I don't think your school is following a quarter system. Most likely, since one term is roughly 4 months, it's probably a trimester system (3 terms per year) rather than quarter. If you have completed two semesters, then most likely you have completed two years of full-time study. Likewise, with your school, it has to be 6 terms rather than only 4.


TyrusX said:
Terrible waiting for the AOR is killing me.
Insanely long. Buffalo is sleeping it seems :(
 

sam001

Hero Member
Apr 29, 2012
215
27
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-07-2014
AOR Received.
15-10-2014
IELTS Request
Sent with application
Med's Request
17-04-2015
Med's Done....
22-04-2015
Passport Req..
24-06-2015
LANDED..........
Sept 30, 2015
kg.jadu said:
Good news!

Received the PER today after appealing NER (initially, the officer has not awarded me 5 points for my 3 years of study in Canada). Submitted my appeal last Thursday. It took less than a week, and it indeed worked! Current students are eligible for 5 adaptability points. Know of at least two other applicants from my school who did the same and were successful (plus two on this forum). Processing of the appeal can take any time between a few days (like for me) or a month (early applicants who got rejected).

In my understanding, we got NER in the first place because before June 2010, FSW applications were processed at individual visa offices. After the rules have changed in June 2010, initial processing moved on to the CPC in Sydney, but there were little to no students-in-progress applicants at that time because the FSW-3 stream was shut down. As a result, the immigration officers in Sydney didn't get enough experience with the applications from students, and now they have to deal with somewhat unfamiliar applicants who have studied in Canada for more than 2 years but do not have a Canadian degree. But of course, we are right, and that's precisely why appeals work.

I expect there will be less NERs due to 5 adaptability points. They might have already spotted the issue and done necessary training.

Please add me to the timeline.
PhD student in the 3d year, TA/RA (12--17 hrs/week) + some research experience from back home
Applied February 16, 2012
NER March 29, 2012
Appealed April 26, 2012
PER May 1, 2012
One person in the application
Hi congratz..:)..I m just curious to know what is the process of appeal for that 5 points..??
 

aboshosha84

Newbie
May 1, 2012
8
0
badalpharm said:
@ Aboshosha84 and other all seniors,

He said, he completed four full time semester (equivalent to 2 years). I did not get it.
My school has 3 quarters. Sept-Dec, Jan-April, and May-Aug, Now all undergrad has vacation in summer, but graduates are working.

So What is the rule, 4 semester, or 2 YEARS (730 DAYS).
We have three semester per year. Once this new PhD stream appeared, our School of Graduate and Post Graduate Studies (SGPS) sent us an email stating that the required two years is equivalent to 4 terms of full time studies based on the Three-Semesters system. I am not sure if that is valid for any full time studies and Three-Semester system or not. ::). I recommend you consult the SGPS in ur School or the one who is going to issue u the letter of attestation. Hope this helps. Good Luck
 

even

Full Member
Mar 19, 2012
36
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Ottawa
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-09-2013
AOR Received.
07-11-2013
Med's Request
01-04-2014
Med's Done....
03-04-2014
Passport Req..
01-05-2014
aboshosha84 said:
We have three semester per year. Once this new PhD stream appeared, our School of Graduate and Post Graduate Studies (SGPS) sent us an email stating that the required two years is equivalent to 4 terms of full time studies based on the Three-Semesters system. I am not sure if that is valid for any full time studies and Three-Semester system or not. ::). I recommend you consult the SGPS in ur School or the one who is going to issue u the letter of attestation. Hope this helps. Good Luck
Hello, aboshosha84. Do you mean that as long as you have finished 4 semesters based on the three-semester system, you can apply for the PhD stream immigration, even if it is less than 2 year actually (It could be 1 year 4 months)? OR, you have to apply after two years? Could you tell me about your case? Thank you!
 

aboshosha84

Newbie
May 1, 2012
8
0
even said:
Hello, aboshosha84. Do you mean that as long as you have finished 4 semesters based on the three-semester system, you can apply for the PhD stream immigration, even if it is less than 2 year actually (It could be 1 year 4 months)? OR, you have to apply after two years? Could you tell me about your case? Thank you!
Hi Even,
It could be 1 year 4 months, this is my case. I started my PhD on September 2010. I received the letter of attestation on January 2012.
Cheers