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App for PR inside or outside Canada?

sounion

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Oct 21, 2012
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CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-11-2012
AOR Received.
17-01-2013
Med's Done....
24-10-2012
Interview........
20-11-2013
LANDED..........
20-11-2013
You can also do your medical after submitting the application.
 

Benni

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Oct 22, 2013
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Newfoundland
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-04-2014
AOR Received.
27-06-2014
Med's Done....
12-03-2014
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-2014
LANDED..........
20-11-2014
The Panel list only gives 2 options for med exam in Texas -- one in Dallas and one in Houston. Dallas is closer to fly to.

sounion = Oh! I thought all had to be done and enclosed with the app.

My timeline choices (so far):

April -- marry and stay for 90 days
July -- back to Texas for FBI check and med exam.
August -- back to NL and file for app together.

OR.......

March -- Med exam and FBI check in Texas
April -- marry and file from NL

Not sure about any of it right yet.
 

Rob_TO

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Nov 7, 2012
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Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Benni said:
Oh! I thought all had to be done and enclosed with the app.
For an inland application you can do the medical at a later date.

However for practically all outland apps, you must do the medical upfront and submit with application. There have been cases seen here where people have had their entire app returned to them and they had to re-submit everything, because they didn't submit upfront medical.
 

Benni

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Oct 22, 2013
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-04-2014
AOR Received.
27-06-2014
Med's Done....
12-03-2014
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-2014
LANDED..........
20-11-2014
Yeh, I'm doing it outland with everything done before submitting.
 

screech339

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Apr 2, 2013
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Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
Benni said:
Yeh, I'm doing it outland with everything done before submitting.
You can do your medical while you are in Canada before you go back to US. However you could save money if you do it in US with insurance coverage if possible. In Canada they will charge you for the whole medical. However in US, you pay 20% of the cost if you have US insurance. But it is best to have the medical done last just prior to submitting your outland application. This way you have the 1 year medical validity as much as possible over the course of your PR progress.

Screech339
 

Benni

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Oct 22, 2013
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-04-2014
AOR Received.
27-06-2014
Med's Done....
12-03-2014
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-2014
LANDED..........
20-11-2014
I don't have US insurance. I'm still going to have it done here.

You would think since an app takes so long to approve, they'd let the medical stand for the duration rather than just one year.
 

screech339

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Apr 2, 2013
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Vegreville
Job Offer........
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14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
Benni said:
I don't have US insurance. I'm still going to have it done here.

You would think since an app takes so long to approve, they'd let the medical stand for the duration rather than just one year.
Since you plan to apply outland, 1 year medical validity period should suffice since outland timeland tend to be much faster than inland.

Screech339
 

Benni

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Oct 22, 2013
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Newfoundland
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-04-2014
AOR Received.
27-06-2014
Med's Done....
12-03-2014
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-2014
LANDED..........
20-11-2014
That was my thinking, Screech. Thanks! :D
 

mattb123

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Sep 24, 2013
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I'm in a similar position to the original poster. I am an American in a common-law relationship, currently here on a work permit/job that ends in April 2014.

I applied OUTLAND two weeks ago, because I read that the processing time for INLAND (at New York) was 18 months, whereas I could get a OWP in 11ish months if I applied INLAND.

But now I'm reading that the wait time for OUTLAND US apps is average 8 months? Can anyone explain how this is possibly the case? Moreover, can I cancel my application (I have not got AOR yet) and be refunded the money, have it sent back, and apply outland?
 

screech339

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Apr 2, 2013
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552
Category........
Visa Office......
Vegreville
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-08-2012
AOR Received.
20-11-2012
Med's Done....
18-07-2012
Interview........
17-06-2013
LANDED..........
17-06-2013
mattb123 said:
I'm in a similar position to the original poster. I am an American in a common-law relationship, currently here on a work permit/job that ends in April 2014.

I applied OUTLAND two weeks ago, because I read that the processing time for INLAND (at New York) was 18 months, whereas I could get a OWP in 11ish months if I applied INLAND.

But now I'm reading that the wait time for OUTLAND US apps is average 8 months? Can anyone explain how this is possibly the case? Moreover, can I cancel my application (I have not got AOR yet) and be refunded the money, have it sent back, and apply outland?
The outland applications always takes priority over inland. It would explain the long leadtime for inland. Couples are together in Canada so no hurry for them. The outland applications, they want couples to be together asap as humanly possible.

You can cancel the application at anytime. However you will get a refund but not 100% of it back. You can reapply outland but you would have to redo your police certificates again if they are older than 3 months. Medical should be fine as they are good for 1 year.

Generally it is advisable that those applicants coming from US do the outland approach. The process is faster and you can re-enter Canada/US many times without affecting your PR application. Just leave and re-enter Canada to reset the 6 month stay.

Screech339
 

mattb123

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Sep 24, 2013
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screech339 said:
The outland applications always takes priority over inland. It would explain the long leadtime for inland. Couples are together in Canada so no hurry for them. The outland applications, they want couples to be together asap as humanly possible.

You can cancel the application at anytime. However you will get a refund but not 100% of it back. You can reapply outland but you would have to redo your police certificates again if they are older than 3 months. Medical should be fine as they are good for 1 year.

Generally it is advisable that those applicants coming from US do the outland approach. The process is faster and you can re-enter Canada/US many times without affecting your PR application. Just leave and re-enter Canada to reset the 6 month stay.

Screech339
Thanks for the prompt response. I understand all that. My issue is basically that I want to know whether I am more likely to get FULL PR from Outland quicker than I will stage 1 (and thus OWP) from INLAND. According to the CIC website, which lists the CPP-O outland timeline at 14 months and the INLAND stage 1 time at 11 months, this is not the case. However, I am reading from you guys that the CPP-O OUTLAND time is more like 8 months. Can anyone provide some insight on this?

Also if I want to get a refund and have them send the application back, how would I go about doing this?
 

sounion

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Oct 21, 2012
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-11-2012
AOR Received.
17-01-2013
Med's Done....
24-10-2012
Interview........
20-11-2013
LANDED..........
20-11-2013
matt, so long as your outland app is really straightforward, then most likely would finish before stage 1 inland. OF COURSE these are estimate times and they change. when I applied inland, stage 1 was 6 months, but shot up to 11 months while I was waiting. In the end, my entire time for Inland from submitting the app to getting a decision was 11 months, not the 19 months stated for stage 1 and 2 on the site.

i would suggest outland to be honest.
 

mattb123

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Sep 24, 2013
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sounion said:
matt, so long as your outland app is really straightforward, then most likely would finish before stage 1 inland. OF COURSE these are estimate times and they change. when I applied inland, stage 1 was 6 months, but shot up to 11 months while I was waiting. In the end, my entire time for Inland from submitting the app to getting a decision was 11 months, not the 19 months stated for stage 1 and 2 on the site.

i would suggest outland to be honest.
Ugh. Alright so I guess the best course of action would be to call CIC and get them to send me my application back? My application would be straight forward... I just need to do my meds, really.
 

sounion

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Oct 21, 2012
408
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-11-2012
AOR Received.
17-01-2013
Med's Done....
24-10-2012
Interview........
20-11-2013
LANDED..........
20-11-2013
I'm not sure about the details of cancelling your current app, so I would call CIC and inquire.
 

Benni

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Oct 22, 2013
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Newfoundland
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-04-2014
AOR Received.
27-06-2014
Med's Done....
12-03-2014
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-2014
LANDED..........
20-11-2014
I have a question about submitting photos. How many do they need?

We have 2 of us, together, during Easter 2013 and 3 of us, together, during August 2013.

We have tons of photos taken during excursions while there, and of his home, but not with us in them.