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AOR JAN 2016 - let's get together

shahkunalm

Hero Member
Jan 19, 2016
365
11
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
1121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-12-2015
Nomination.....
18-12-2015
AOR Received.
08-01-2016
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
12-01-2016
Passport Req..
20-06-2016
VISA ISSUED...
24-06-2016
worldese said:
Hello:

I got PPR yesterday, today wife and I send our passports in Ottawa. I took the picture this morning, looking like a monster, hope it will not cause me any trouble when that face is printed on my maple card.

I got AOR in Jan 9th.

I wish everybody good luck. The wait is arduous, but it was all worth it.
Congratulations!!
 

sunshinejan

Hero Member
Jul 23, 2013
252
29
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Cookiedough12 said:
what about your background? In progress? Any recent updates ?
My background went in progress and received ghost mail on June 9th and after that the same request for military service to provide with explanations within 30 days
Uploaded on the same day but so far no news
no, nothing changed in my BGC. Just this message asking for details of military service.
 

shahkunalm

Hero Member
Jan 19, 2016
365
11
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
1121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-12-2015
Nomination.....
18-12-2015
AOR Received.
08-01-2016
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
12-01-2016
Passport Req..
20-06-2016
VISA ISSUED...
24-06-2016
madhotra said:
my current status, updated today:
Application/profile status Closed
Review of eligibility Passed
Review of medical results Passed
Review of submitted documents No additional documents are needed at this time
Scheduling an interview
A background check is needed Complete
Final decision This application has been approved

AOR 25 Jan 2016
PPR 14 June 2016
No updates in profile since 2nd Feb 2016 when medicals were updated as passed. Then after a long wait, BGC went to "In Progress" on 14th June and within 3 hours got PPR email.

Sent my passport to NDVO on 16th June from Bangalore. They took just 3 working days to approve and close my application.

Good luck to all still waiting for the lucky day to come. Thanks for all the help in stressful journey.
Good Luck for new journey!!

so you received PP back in 3 days?
 

shahkunalm

Hero Member
Jan 19, 2016
365
11
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
1121
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-12-2015
Nomination.....
18-12-2015
AOR Received.
08-01-2016
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
12-01-2016
Passport Req..
20-06-2016
VISA ISSUED...
24-06-2016
GAVEN985 said:
Guys I just checked my CIC account and observed that my background check status has been changed from not need at this time to In Progress.

I didn't received any update SMS. Did it happened with anyone else too.

Review of eligibility: Is also showing in progress. I am too worried.
Usually emails are delayed. At times even after PPR is received :p

Status in MyCIC account will be same.

Our's still looks same as it was on day 4 after we submitted our profile. Except BF changed to "In Progress".

You may expect PPR soon!!

Regards.
 

Chirag Pandya

Star Member
Jun 24, 2015
78
3
Category........
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
2232
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18/12/2015
Nomination.....
28/03/2016
AOR Received.
27/04/2016
amitsolanki14 said:
Same here Brother (22nd Jan AOR)....
Best is to focus on other things and leave it on God

" We always feel that GOD never comes on time when we call him....
But the Truth is he is always on time but we are always in HURRY.

Wish you Good Luck

Amit
My brother,

I am truly agree with you.........

Got will come to you for sure.........


Chirag
 

GAVEN985

Star Member
Jan 27, 2016
51
0
124
Haryana
Category........
NOC Code......
2234
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-11-2015
Doc's Request.
13-01-2016
AOR Received.
29-01-2016
IELTS Request
Upfront
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
22-1-2016
Interview........
Not needed
Passport Req..
22-06-2016
VISA ISSUED...
27-06-2016
valsanail said:
Hey I have ordered GCMS notes via the same website. Here's how the confirmation e-mail looks like.

GCMS request submitted
You have completed all mandatory steps to request your file

You will receive your GCMS file by email to the address you used to send us the consent form.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask by replying to this email. Please note that we may not respond to all inquiries about estimated processing time of your particular request while it is still within the normal processing timeframe.

For processing times please carefully read the information below.

Average processing time is 33 days

In some cases it may take more time to receive a GCMS file

Please note that processing time is not guaranteed, as visafile.info has no conrol over it.

We process majority of GCMS orders within 24 hours upon receiving a consent form, and send out received GCMS files on the same day we receive them from the processing office.


Also I don't know if you have noticed but they suggest to contact them in case you don't receive the confirmation via this e-mail "info@visafile.info" or try sending the scanned form from other address. So, you chose what to do next :)

Best of luck!

Thanks received the same reply today
 

amitsolanki14

Hero Member
Aug 12, 2015
282
9
India
Category........
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
AOR Received.
09/08/15
Med's Request
12/08/15
Med's Done....
14/08/15
Chirag Pandya said:
My brother,

I am truly agree with you.........

Got will come to you for sure.........


Chirag
Thanks Chirag, Good Luck to you as well

Amit
 

Nataj

Star Member
May 30, 2016
55
1
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
9241
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Doc's Request.
yes
Nomination.....
No
AOR Received.
Jan 25, 2016
Med's Done....
Passed
Passport Req..
Not yet
Hi folks,

I submitted a CSE with new C.O.Q., also included an explanation letter. If my agent just do not bother herself to close the case file, it is all there, everything!

Thank you guys for backing me up, you gave me lots of hope!! Never mention that it was actually me who did not even believe that could send a CSE. You are awesome!!

I wish that they do not finalize my application. Based on my CIC account, it is not closed yet. Do I really need to call them again? I am not sure if making a phone is something that I should do? What do you think? Thanks a lot for your help.

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..... $$$$ for those folks that might not follow my posts on this thread:

.... I submitted my application under EE FSW Inlander on Jan 25th and it got rejected yesterday. the reason mentioned was that the Certificate of Qualification was not good. This was because at the time of application I did not know which one is which and simply upload the wrong piece of document.

It was actually a very easy issue to get fixed, if they would have just sent me a short message on my CIC, I could just give them the right one ! No big deal,
 

ybjianada

Hero Member
Sep 6, 2015
449
132
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
20-01-2016
AOR Received.
20-01-2016
Med's Done....
Passed on 24-01-2016
Passport Req..
06-12-2016
VISA ISSUED...
23-12-2016
Thanks for sharing this, and I hope everything goes well with the request to re-consider the decision.
However, it appears from your description that you provided the incorrect document at the time you submitted the application, rather than that CIC misinterpreted what you submitted. This may have implications for whether they are willing to re-open the case, from what I understand about these things (which is not much, admittedly).
But all the best, and you may wish to create a new profile, just in case.


Nataj said:
Hi folks,

I submitted a CSE with new C.O.Q., also include an explanation letter. If my agent just do not bother himself to close my file, it is all there, everything! :p :p

Thank you guys for backing me up, you gave me lots of hope!! Never mention that was it was actually me who did not even believe that could send a CSE. You are awesome!!

I wish that they do not finalize my application. Based on my CIC account, it is not closed yet. Do I really need to call them again? I am not sure if making a phone is something that I should do? What do you think? Thanks a lot for your help.

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..... for those that might not followed my previous posts on this thread:

.... I submitted my application under FSW Inlander on Jan 25th and it got rejected yesterday. the reason mentioned was that the Certificate of Qualification was not good. This was because at the time of application I did not know which one is which and simply upload the wrong piece of document.

It was actually a very easy issue to get fixed, if they would have just send me a short message on my CIC, I could just give them the right piece of document ! No big deal,
 

bamshy

Full Member
Jun 18, 2016
38
2
Nataj said:
Hi folks,

I submitted a CSE with new C.O.Q., also included an explanation letter. If my agent just do not bother herself to close the case file, it is all there, everything!

Thank you guys for backing me up, you gave me lots of hope!! Never mention that it was actually me who did not even believe that could send a CSE. You are awesome!!

I wish that they do not finalize my application. Based on my CIC account, it is not closed yet. Do I really need to call them again? I am not sure if making a phone is something that I should do? What do you think? Thanks a lot for your help.

----------------------------------------------
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..... $$$$ for those folks that might not follow my posts on this thread:

.... I submitted my application under EE FSW Inlander on Jan 25th and it got rejected yesterday. the reason mentioned was that the Certificate of Qualification was not good. This was because at the time of application I did not know which one is which and simply upload the wrong piece of document.

It was actually a very easy issue to get fixed, if they would have just sent me a short message on my CIC, I could just give them the right one ! No big deal,
I agree with ybjianada. My first application was rejected as FSW inlander because I did not submit ECA even though i submitted the degree certificate. This happened because my Canadian postsecondary degree is "higher" than my foreign bachelors degree (or so i thought). After the denial, i submitted CSE for re-consideration. The officer maintained denial claiming, at the time the decision was made, there was no ECA and I should re-apply. You would think this is what the "Additional docs required" field is for on CIC accounts :(
 

nshakelly

Hero Member
Nov 23, 2015
401
52
Category........
Visa Office......
Inland
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
bamshy said:
I agree with ybjianada. My first application was rejected as FSW inlander because I did not submit ECA even though i submitted the degree certificate. This happened because my Canadian postsecondary degree is "higher" than my foreign bachelors degree (or so i thought). After the denial, i submitted CSE for re-consideration. The officer maintained denial claiming, at the time the decision was made, there was no ECA and I should re-apply. You would think this is what the "Additional docs required" field is for on CIC accounts :(
I have a MBA from Canada and Bachelors from home country.

I did not get the ECA for Bachelors. IS that a mistake? I was in an assumption that if the highest degree is from Canada. Bachelors ECA is not required.
 

bamshy

Full Member
Jun 18, 2016
38
2
nshakelly said:
I have a MBA from Canada and Bachelors from home country.

I did not get the ECA for Bachelors. IS that a mistake? I was in an assumption that if the highest degree is from Canada. Bachelors ECA is not required.
Well, my degree in Canada is not a Masters. It was a postgraduate certificate with bachelor's degree as admission requirement. Plus, I chose 2 or more certs... not Masters.

We may have a very different case. Plus, I have friends that have Masters overseas and submitted just ECA for the Masters not including Bachelors since Masters is higher. Now they have their PR
 

nshakelly

Hero Member
Nov 23, 2015
401
52
Category........
Visa Office......
Inland
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
bamshy said:
Well, my degree in Canada is not a Masters. It was a postgraduate certificate with bachelor's degree as admission requirement. Plus, I chose 2 or more certs... not Masters.

We may have a very different case. Plus, I have friends that have Masters overseas and submitted just ECA for the Masters not including Bachelors since Masters is higher. Now they have their PR
Alright, I got your point.

Thank you for the clarification.
 

apache5021

Star Member
Apr 9, 2016
185
15
Visa Office......
Mississgua
App. Filed.......
04 Jun 2018
AOR Received.
18-07-2018
IELTS Request
N/A
An interesting post from legalfalcon on the Apr AOR gp : :)

I have shared this in the past and wanted to put it here for your benefit. Hope you find it useful:

As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 15.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have.
 

sunshinejan

Hero Member
Jul 23, 2013
252
29
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
apache5021 said:
An interesting post from legalfalcon on the Apr AOR gp : :)

I have shared this in the past and wanted to put it here for your benefit. Hope you find it useful:

As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of a standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicant's age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score determined. There is an exception clause for when the age changes, it keeps the CRS score intact. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here because they are incomplete.

7. At the R10 review, if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually, by this stage, the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a reassesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send your application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal EE application, which was filed in Sep 15' and approved in April 15.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have.

Thank you so much for an informative post. It actually spreads some light on my situation.

Do you think it is a bad sign to get an additional docs request (military records) so late in the process? or is it just a normal procedure for security&criminality check?

i am so worried////