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yelena

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hi guys., I to hope my file is held for a right reason, it would be a bit unfair to hold it for so long, and then refuse it.. but, I dont thin CIC is really worried about beeing fair or unfair.

My application read Updated this morning, but there are no visible changes yet.. since my medical went into progress a while ago, I hope they are not going to ask us to retake our medical now :/ I hope the update will be about something else., at this point, anything will do.

I am happy that someone touched my file, even if nothing new happened., perhaps the long queue it was in is finally getting shorter.

I will post the news once I see the change, if any..

take care and I wish the ones still waiting here, soon resolution of our cases.

btw. as for the PCC., I think they changed the requirement and now they are asking PCC for each conutry where you spent more than 6 months in total. it doesnt have to be 6 months at the same time anymore
 

yelena

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sunil55 said:
@yelena. You should get ppr even if ur file is to be refused because they have held it for so so long. U missed provincial nominations and many more itas. I m very confident that if its held its held to come out positive
Prayers alwAys. Good luck
I wish there is someone as kind as you in CIC, reading this :) thanks and good luck to you too!
 

Tocanadawego

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Apr 19, 2015
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Ottawa
NOC Code......
1123
Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
06/10/2015
AOR Received.
06/10/2015
Med's Done....
12-12-2105
Passport Req..
17-01-2017
VISA ISSUED...
13-02-2017
LANDED..........
04-03-2017
yelena said:
hi guys., I to hope my file is held for a right reason, it would be a bit unfair to hold it for so long, and then refuse it.. but, I dont thin CIC is really worried about beeing fair or unfair.

My application read Updated this morning, but there are no visible changes yet.. since my medical went into progress a while ago, I hope they are not going to ask us to retake our medical now :/ I hope the update will be about something else., at this point, anything will do.

I am happy that someone touched my file, even if nothing new happened., perhaps the long queue it was in is finally getting shorter.

I will post the news once I see the change, if any..

take care and I wish the ones still waiting here, soon resolution of our cases.

btw. as for the PCC., I think they changed the requirement and now they are asking PCC for each conutry where you spent more than 6 months in total. it doesnt have to be 6 months at the same time anymore
That's good news! Wishing you best of luck!
 

yelena

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Ok., Medical switched back to passed.
I know they have requested that my medical exam be extended so this must be it..

I sent a new cse.. knowing your medical expiry date is kind of important and all.. so I hope they will respond and let me know this at least., as I still have no idea if we are going to have to pack our lifes and go in a months time, or if we can relax a bit..

this thing with upfront medical in EE is something they really need to revize in the future..

@Tocanadawego, any news at your end?
 

Tocanadawego

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App. Filed.......
06/10/2015
AOR Received.
06/10/2015
Med's Done....
12-12-2105
Passport Req..
17-01-2017
VISA ISSUED...
13-02-2017
LANDED..........
04-03-2017
yelena said:
Ok., Medical switched back to passed.
I know they have requested that my medical exam be extended so this must be it..

I sent a new cse.. knowing your medical expiry date is kind of important and all.. so I hope they will respond and let me know this at least., as I still have no idea if we are going to have to pack our lifes and go in a months time, or if we can relax a bit..

this thing with upfront medical in EE is something they really need to revize in the future..

@Tocanadawego, any news at your end?
I hope you get some great news soon, although packing on a short notice is a pain!

Nothing new here. Been a month since BG went in progress and no further news. It'll be six months in a few days.
 

sunil55

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yelena said:
Ok., Medical switched back to passed.
I know they have requested that my medical exam be extended so this must be it..

I sent a new cse.. knowing your medical expiry date is kind of important and all.. so I hope they will respond and let me know this at least., as I still have no idea if we are going to have to pack our lifes and go in a months time, or if we can relax a bit..

this thing with upfront medical in EE is something they really need to revize in the future..

@Tocanadawego, any news at your end?
Hey. Whatever is happening with medical and all look so positive. I have a strong feeling that u are close to the end now. Enough is enough. Good luck. We will dine together there soon ;D ;D ;D
 

sunil55

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aeropostale said:
Hi Sunil,

Told ya... yours is just right around the corner.. Very happy for you... You'll have the PPR mail soon.. max by the end of next week...

My BG went inProgress on friday (11th mar) and got PPR the next friday (18th Mar)..
Thank you so much. Waiting for that magic PPR. u got it from otawa or New Delhi office? And what was the time of email if u remember. Indian day time or night time? Also was it MYCIC msg or email ? For last 2 updates .....I mean the extension n FBI date and BG check I never got any email notification. I just found out on MYCIC. Let's see.
Thanks for all the support and still hanging around to help and guide us. :-* :-*
 

aeropostale

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sunil55 said:
Thank you so much. Waiting for that magic PPR. u got it from otawa or New Delhi office? And what was the time of email if u remember. Indian day time or night time? Also was it MYCIC msg or email ? For last 2 updates .....I mean the extension n FBI date and BG check I never got any email notification. I just found out on MYCIC. Let's see.
Thanks for all the support and still hanging around to help and guide us. :-* :-*
Hi Sunil,

My BG went into in progress around 8PM Indian time on 11th Mar... following friday 18th Mar at 11.45PM Indian time I received the PPR..

The PPR came from ottawa center.. but directed me to submit my passport to New Delhi VO..

PPR I got it in my personal mail that I had given for communication (which I receive the Ghost mails as well)..

For FBI extension I too did not get any mail/message on myCIC.. just that my date in the upload section was extended.. for BG - in progress status.. I got a ghost mail... but that is after the status change in myCIC portal..

be patient for a week.... if not tonight... the coming week will be eventful...

Get ready to party...
 

ShiaSaran

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Feb 17, 2015
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Hi Guys is there a spreadsheet for August, Please share the link
 

shibdutta

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People who are travelling from India in next few days to few months, can join this group and we can discuss and get ourselves ready in Canada.

1) how you are planning to show the POF. are you planning to carry all in Cash or some in Indian Bank Statement
2) where do you get CAD exchanged
3) how do you plan to get accommodation for the first few days in Canada
4) how are you planning to get Job in Canada.

I am creating a watsapp group for people who are travelling soon or has already traveled (they can help us too with their experience).
post your cell number and I will start adding them in the Group.

ping me in WatsApp also: +91 9910957248

Shiv
 

askaan305

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Feb 28, 2016
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26-10-2015
Med's Done....
29-10-2015
CIC processing strategy
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file. Under the R 10 review your IELTS, ECA are checked against the websites to ascertain that there is no misrepresentation. (R10 review is done within the 1-3 months of filing the application). If an applicants age has changed from EE profile to ITA, then the same is recorded and his score is affected. This is also done at the CIO level. Most of the applications are rejected here.

7. At the R10 review if you have any documents missing, the application is rejected, or more time is given to file the document if there is a Letter of Explanation (LoE). It largely depends on the agent reviewing it. Some are brutal and will reject the application even for a minor error.

8. Usually by this stage the medicals are also passed. Recently some applicants received request to re-access their medicals when the file reached the Local Visa Office (LVO). I have a theory for this, but in most cases, once the medicals are passed, they are good until the final review stage. The applicants who received a re-assesment for the medicals could be because of two reasons:
a. The doctor or the facility which examined them had a complaint against it, or the CIC found something fishy about how things were being conducted there; or
b. The medicals did not disclose the required parameters, or the applicant had an underlying medical issue, which the CIC wanted to get re-assessed.

8. Now the next stage is to determine eligibility, i.e. whether the application meets the program prerequisites under which it is filed. For FSW, your experience, letters of reference, education, etc are in order. For the PNP, FSW and your nomination is present, for CEC, your Canadian experience is on file. And, so on so forth for the other categories. The objective here is to review whether you meet the program threshold and what you claim is correct. If there is any suspicion, or things don't sound good, the agent can send you application for further review. Which includes an interview, extra doc request etc. If the applicant meets the requirements, and his score is over the cut off for the ITA she received, his eligibility is passed. If there are issues, they will be addressed. This usually happens at the LVO. This stage happens when the application is usually 4-5 months into the process. At this stage, if the eligibility is met, the chances of refusal considerably go down, unless there is a criminal history. However, if your score goes down due to CIC not acknowledging your experience, NOC and reference letters not matching, or a change in age, the application is rejected.

9. As soon as the eligibility is met, next comes the security and criminality (or background check). Usually the criminality is met through the Police Clearance Certificates (PCC) uploaded with the application. If the applicant has been to a country which is suspicious, or your travel history does show frequent visits to a country without any explanation, the same are recorded and evaluated. If things look good, your criminality is passed. A lot of applicants receive a request for Schedule A at this stage to ensure no gap time is present and the history is clear.

10. The last and the final stage is the security. This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), International Police (INTERPOL), Criminal Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here. Number of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, past law enforcement or military record, Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc. If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', the case goes into a 'spin'. Then the file might go to the local Police/intelligence agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over within 1-2 months. However, a point to be noted is that the applicant can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason. For some people the security has a quick turn around. But in the last two weeks a lot of applicants are stuck at this stage.

11. At the final review, when the security results come in, the PPR is issued.

Now, this is NO way is a generalization of the process. Some applications are processed much faster, some are slow. This is what I could gather from my GCMS notes, my experience with dealing with the immigration authorities in US on behalf of my clients and my personal application which is still in progress.

This is only for information to provide a picture about the process, but CIC has never disclosed their processing procedure. However, looking into some immigration cases, and the information through the GCMS notes available on the forum, this is the best generalization I could come up with. Albeit, for some applicants the criminality is done before the eligibility is checked, for other after. So please don't debate as to how one case you saw was different from what I have stated.

This is just an overview. If you do not find it appealing, just ignore it. If it was up to me, I would process all applications much faster.

But, this is a long wait and probably the most important decision you will make in your life. Be optimistic, helpful and supportive of others. This forum is an excellent resource for many, so even when you receive your PPR, please hang on for a few more months and update your timelines and answer any questions other applicants may have. Don't be a parasite.
 

JustCanada

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AOR Received.
10 September 2015
Passport Req..
June 9, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
July 2016
LANDED..........
August 9, 2016 (To GOD be the glory!)
askaan305 said:
CIC processing strategy
As per the trends, your eligibility is cleared within the first 5 months and then what is left is the security and criminality. This is for the FSW (outland). For the inland applicants, the process is different, their BGC goes in progress within a few days after they receive the AoR. So its is difficult to predict if it is just a technical issue, or the BGC is initiated sooner in the application.

The anatomy of an standard application is as follows:

1. Enter the EE pool.

2. Receive the ITA.

3. File application and supporting documents.

4. AoR - Automatically acknowledged, usually on the same day as submission.

5. The first step is to check for completeness. This usually triggers the application review "IN PROGRESS." This is done at the Centralized Intake Office (CIO).

6. Next stage is the R10 review. This is the first stringent check of the application against the EE profile you created. The Regulation 10 of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations imposes a strict liability on the applicants to account for all documents uploaded, satisfy what was stated in the EE profile, and ensure that there are no gaps. If you do not provide the documents or they are filed incorrectly, your application can be rejected due to the strict liability on the applicant under this regulation. However, a lot depends on the agent reviewing the file.
Please acknowledge Legalfalcon who is the original author. Thank you.
 

Achievement

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yelena said:
hi guys., I to hope my file is held for a right reason, it would be a bit unfair to hold it for so long, and then refuse it.. but, I dont thin CIC is really worried about beeing fair or unfair.

My application read Updated this morning, but there are no visible changes yet.. since my medical went into progress a while ago, I hope they are not going to ask us to retake our medical now :/ I hope the update will be about something else., at this point, anything will do.

I am happy that someone touched my file, even if nothing new happened., perhaps the long queue it was in is finally getting shorter.

I will post the news once I see the change, if any..

take care and I wish the ones still waiting here, soon resolution of our cases.

btw. as for the PCC., I think they changed the requirement and now they are asking PCC for each conutry where you spent more than 6 months in total. it doesnt have to be 6 months at the same time anymore
Good luck Yelena. Wish you PPR soon
 

yelena

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Achievement said:
Good luck Yelena. Wish you PPR soon
and an update; I recived notec that our medical is extended until march 2017!
So, for future reference to all of you whose medical is close to expiry, ask for an extension of validity as there appears to be an option for doing this, if you do in in time.
 

askaan305

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Feb 28, 2016
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2132
Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
26-10-2015
AOR Received.
26-10-2015
Med's Done....
29-10-2015
ONLY PEI nominated Applicants WhatsApp group 65+ members
Dear PEI applicants,
We have a WhatsApp group for ONLY PEI nominated Applicants, this group is exclusively for PEI applicants. This group holds 65+ members, few are already landed and other have received PPR last week only and will be travelling to PEI shortly. If you wish to be part of this PEI group please PM me on 966535304092