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adichourasiya said:
Hi Sita,
Thanks for the thread. Here are my details
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CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)

1. Credential: Bachelor of Engineering
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (four years)

2. Credential: Academic Transcript (this is mentioned instead of MS or study towards masters)
Canadian Equivalency: One and one-half years of graduate study
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Can I claim for 'two or more degree?' or should I go with summary? Also if there is benefit in applying with other agencies?
Based on this ECA, you'll have to choose Bachelors.
 

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adichourasiya said:
Hi Sita,
Thanks for the thread. Here are my details
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CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)

1. Credential: Bachelor of Engineering
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (four years)

2. Credential: Academic Transcript (this is mentioned instead of MS or study towards masters)
Canadian Equivalency: One and one-half years of graduate study
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Can I claim for 'two or more degree?' or should I go with summary? Also if there is benefit in applying with other agencies?
I cannot really confirm whether other agencies will give you a different outcome or not..recently I read on another thread similar outcome from CES..both masters and bachelors together assessed as bachelors (4 years)
 

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Thanks for response Sita

What could be the worst case scenario if I opt to display "two or more certificates" instead of bachelor in this case?
Wouldn't they go to database and reject the profile and then we can submit a fresh profile?

In other thread 'indianaspirant' also said to do same and he got his AOR on 03-08-2015, is there any update on same from him?
 

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adichourasiya said:
Thanks for response Sita

What could be the worst case scenario if I opt to display "two or more certificates" instead of bachelor in this case?
Wouldn't they go to database and reject the profile and then we can submit a fresh profile?

In other thread 'indianaspirant' also said to do same and he got his AOR on 03-08-2015, is there any update on same from him?
Well yes worst case scenario will be your app will be returned and you will be back in the pool and will have to wait for another ITA. Also it could be counted as a mis-representation...since your ECA clearly states jst bachelors but you choose a higher education level! I am just imagining the really worst case here..
Also your ECA is from WES...or some other agency?
 

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WES. I've tried calling them. Typical bureaucratic response. Can't get a clarification.
To my amazement when I updated profile with 'two or more...' it is still same score. (status changed from updated to submitted).
My CRS stuck at 430; What about you?
 

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To those who go on about "you can't claim "Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees.", and misrepresentation etc.":

Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees.
Important notice: One must be for a program of three or more years.
ECA assessment results:

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:

Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificateFootnote 1
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diplomaFootnote 1
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Graduate diplomaFootnote 1
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Study Toward a Master's Degree

So with a three-year Bachelor's degree, and a year after that in any postgraduate study, provided those are assessed and acknowledged by WES, you can easily and rightfully claim "Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees."
 

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valioiko said:
To those who go on about "you can't claim "Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees.", and misrepresentation etc.":

Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees.
Important notice: One must be for a program of three or more years.
ECA assessment results:

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:

Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificateFootnote 1
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diplomaFootnote 1
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Graduate diplomaFootnote 1
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Study Toward a Master's Degree

So with a three-year Bachelor's degree, and a year after that in any postgraduate study, provided those are assessed and acknowledged by WES, you can easily and rightfully claim "Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees."
I can't believe people applying for a PR not to read a website thoroughly before posting their opinions online on a forum like this...leading other people to make a serious mistake which could cost them to lose a ITA..
Let's take a look at the footnote that you very conveniently decided to omit:
Footnotes
Footnote 1
Note that this equivalency assessment outcome applies to reports issued by either the “International Credential Evaluation Service (ICES), British Columbia Institute of Technology” or the “International Qualifications Assessment Service (IQAS), Government of Alberta.” These designated organizations indicate outcomes in English only.


That is the reason I asked which organization was the ECA from, if it was from any other agency than ICES or IQAS, you can't claim two or more points with bachelors + one year graduate study.
 

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Sita1987 said:
I can't believe people applying for a PR not to read a website thoroughly before posting their opinions online on a forum like this...leading other people to make a serious mistake which could cost them to lose a ITA..
Let's take a look at the footnote that you very conveniently decided to omit:
Footnotes
Footnote 1
Note that this equivalency assessment outcome applies to reports issued by either the “International Credential Evaluation Service (ICES), British Columbia Institute of Technology” or the “International Qualifications Assessment Service (IQAS), Government of Alberta.” These designated organizations indicate outcomes in English only.


That is the reason I asked which organization was the ECA from, if it was from any other agency than ICES or IQAS, you can't claim two or more points with bachelors + one year graduate study.
Congratulations Sita1987,
I just now seen your timeline and come to know that you have got Ontario PT and thereafter ITA..

wish you good luck for your PR Application :)
 

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CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)

1. Credential: Bachelor of Arts (Major : Liberal Arts)
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (Three years)

2. Credential: Bachelor of Arts (Major : Hospitality and Food Management)
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree(Four years)

Will it be Two or more degrees as I have done Two Bachelor degree one with area of concentration or just Bachelors.
 

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DAN1985 said:
CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)

1. Credential: Bachelor of Arts (Major : Liberal Arts)
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (Three years)

2. Credential: Bachelor of Arts (Major : Hospitality and Food Management)
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree(Four years)

Will it be Two or more degrees as I have done Two Bachelor degree one with area of concentration or just Bachelors.
yes, definitely it will be Two or more degrees..
 

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DAN1985 said:
CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)

1. Credential: Bachelor of Arts (Major : Liberal Arts)
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (Three years)

2. Credential: Bachelor of Arts (Major : Hospitality and Food Management)
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree(Four years)

Will it be Two or more degrees as I have done Two Bachelor degree one with area of concentration or just Bachelors.
Nope. Because both degrees was assessed as a SINGLE bachelor in the summary. If it was assesed as TWO bachelor in the summary then YES is the answer.
 

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warquezho said:
Nope. Because both degrees was assessed as a SINGLE bachelor in the summary. If it was assesed as TWO bachelor in the summary then YES is the answer.
is it so?? WES will mention it as Two bachelors degree in Summary??

I think he will be able to show it as "Two or more degrees"
 

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That is the question. Even though they have given equivalence to two seperate bachelors degrees. but they haven't mentioned Bachelors 3 years and Bachelors 4 years in the summary. They have only mentioned Bachelors 4 years. Should i contact WES for this ?
 

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That is the question. Even though they have given equivalence to two seperate bachelors degrees. but they haven't mentioned Bachelors 3 years and Bachelors 4 years in the summary. They have only mentioned Bachelors 4 years. Should i contact WES for this ?
as per CIC website: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp

Educational Credential Assessments – how to read your report

Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees.

Important notice: One must be for a program of three or more years.

ECA assessment results:

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:

Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificateFootnote 1
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diplomaFootnote 1
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Graduate diplomaFootnote 1
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]Footnote 1
Study Toward a Master's Degree
 

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munjal said:
is it so?? WES will mention it as Two bachelors degree in Summary??

I think he will be able to show it as "Two or more degrees"
You are correct. WES will show this as two separate bachelors degree. Like " Bachelor 3 y Bachelor 4 y".

Dan,
Better contact WES and clarify that you got 2 bachelor and nor single bachelor.