Any way to Sponsor a 25 year old Child

[Beltex]

My wife and I both live in Canada and are PRs. Our daughter who is 25 years old and also has PR (since she was 12 years old) would like to now move to Canada. She has two young children and a partner who also need to be figured in. She has zero time in Canada since getting her PR. I have suggested that she comes to Canada via the US and will either just pass through with her UK passport and COPR or get questioned and reported for failure of RO. Either way she would at that point be living in Canada, possibly awaiting an appeal regarding RO. Question is could her partner get a work permit and would the children be OK for school / health cover etc?

Other option would be for her to repeal her PR and try and reapply, if she did that is there anyway we could sponsor her or would she be absolutely on her own? This would be a problem as she wouldn't appear to qualify in her own right for any of the current PR routes.

 

[scylla]

My wife and I both live in Canada and are PRs. Our daughter who is 25 years old and also has PR (since she was 12 years old) would like to now move to Canada. She has two young children and a partner who also need to be figured in. She has zero time in Canada since getting her PR. I have suggested that she comes to Canada via the US and will either just pass through with her UK passport and COPR or get questioned and reported for failure of RO. Either way she would at that point be living in Canada, possibly awaiting an appeal regarding RO. Question is could her partner get a work permit and would the children be OK for school / health cover etc?

Other option would be for her to repeal her PR and try and reapply, if she did that is there anyway we could sponsor her or would she be absolutely on her own? This would be a problem as she wouldn't appear to qualify in her own right for any of the current PR routes.

If she is able to re-enter Canada without being reported, then she will still need to wait 2 years before she is able to sponsor her family for PR. During this time, it may also be difficult for her to get health care coverage through the provinces (without a valid PR card). Of course it's also possible she may be reported in which case she will need to wait for a hearing and the outcome will be unknown (i.e. if she will be able to keep PR status or not).

Her partner would only qualify for a work permit during this time independently (i.e. through securing a job offer, approved LMIA and then applying for a closed work permit). Her children should be able to go to school however they may not have health care coverage.

You cannot sponsor her for PR. She is too old. If she renounced PR and wants to apply again, she and her partner will need to qualify completely independently.

 

[Beltex]

You cannot sponsor her for PR. She is too old. If she renounced PR and wants to apply again, she and her partner will need to qualify completely independently.

Yes this a problem. It's incredibly annoying and slightly illogical how Canada lets a PR sponsor their parents and even grand parents who may have little or no working life left in them but not young twentysomething children with most of their lives still in front of them.

 

[scylla]

Yes this a problem. It's incredibly annoying and slightly illogical how Canada lets a PR sponsor their parents and even grand parents who may have little or no working life left in them but not young twentysomething children with most of their lives still in front of them.

The logic behind this is that young individuals are expected have the work experience, education, language abilities, etc. to qualify for PR independently through an economic immigration stream like Express Entry or PNP.

Ultimately the rules are what they are. A 25 year old is not classified as a dependent and cannot be sponsored by you.

 

[scylla]

Yes this a problem. It's incredibly annoying and slightly illogical how Canada lets a PR sponsor their parents and even grand parents who may have little or no working life left in them but not young twentysomething children with most of their lives still in front of them.

Some other options she can consider with her partner (I am assuming they are either common law or married):

- Renounce PR. Either she or her partner comes to Canada as an international student on a study permit to study full time. The other partner then qualifies for an open work permit. Then try to qualify for PR at a later date.
- Renounce PR. Have both of them apply for an IEC working holiday visa which would granted them an open work permit to live and work in Canada for a couple of years. Then try to qualify for PR at a later date.

Neither of these options guarantee PR of course but both options could get the family to Canada at least temporarily with the ability to work, get health care, etc. First option is more expensive but better since they will increase their points if one of them completes further education in Canada.

 

[YVR123]

Well, if she can risk not be able to sponsor her family for 2 years (in case she is not being reported crossing the land border), she can try entering from US.

Assuming that her husband and children all have UK passport, they could enter via eTA and stay as visitors. (need private health insurnance and not sure about attedning school in this case... and no work permit as a spouse waiting to be sponsored)

OP needs to accept that the daughter is not a child and already has her family. So she will need to find a way to immigrate on her own.
She is young and assuming her English language skill is good. She will need to gain some education and skilled work experience.

 

[Ponga]

Yes this a problem. It's incredibly annoying and slightly illogical how Canada lets a PR sponsor their parents and even grand parents who may have little or no working life left in them but not young twentysomething children with most of their lives still in front of them.

You're missing the key part:
Family Reunification

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/transparency/committees/cimm-may-12-2022/family-reunification.html

Canada’s family class program granted permanent residency to 80,993 individuals in 2021. The family reunification program allows for the sponsorship of spouses, common-law partners, dependent children, children to be adopted, parents, grandparents, and other eligible relatives. In 2022, the Department aims to accept 105,000 permanent residents under the family classes.

It's not IRCC's fault that your daughter has been a PR for ~13 years with "...zero time in Canada since getting her PR." If the CBSA officer issues a 44(1) report for breach of the Residency Obligation, would she have compelling reasons for H&C consideration?

 

[armoured]

Well, if she can risk not be able to sponsor her family for 2 years (in case she is not being reported crossing the land border), she can try entering from US.

Assuming that her husband and children all have UK passport, they could enter via eTA and stay as visitors. (need private health insurnance and not sure about attedning school in this case... and no work permit as a spouse waiting to be sponsored)

It is a good point that husband could enter - and since there is the IEC, the husband may qualify for that. If so, it's quite likely the two would be able to work out how to ensure the kids enter (I don't know about children on IEC, the daughter can look into it).
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/selections.asp?country=gb&cat=wh

Small comment: now that the daughter is married and has her own children, she would not be considered a dependent anyway, regardless of age (well at least above age 18).

At any rate, she and her husband do have a fair number of options.

 

[armoured]

Yes this a problem. It's incredibly annoying and slightly illogical how Canada lets a PR sponsor their parents and even grand parents who may have little or no working life left in them but not young twentysomething children with most of their lives still in front of them.

There are plenty who think that the PGP program is not the best immigration program - but you're missing that it's a lottery, requires waiting several years, minimum income levels, and a 20-year sponsorship term (I think it's 20). I think fair to say that the majority interested in bringing their parents cannot, it's just down to luck - and of course, given age, it is quite rare that parents could qualify on their own, so they have very few other options (apart from super visa).

 

[Beltex]

There are plenty who think that the PGP program is not the best immigration program - but you're missing that it's a lottery, requires waiting several years, minimum income levels, and a 20-year sponsorship term (I think it's 20). I think fair to say that the majority interested in bringing their parents cannot, it's just down to luck - and of course, given age, it is quite rare that parents could qualify on their own, so they have very few other options (apart from super visa).

I here what you are saying but I don't' think it has to be an either/or. I would not decry the PGP program but if you can justify granting PR to economically inactive old folks then why not the working age children of existing Permanent Residents? After all there will be some like us who may ultimately be forced to choose between staying in Canada or seeing their grandchildren grow up.

 

[Naturgrl]

I here what you are saying but I don't' think it has to be an either/or. I would not decry the PGP program but if you can justify granting PR to economically inactive old folks then why not the working age children of existing Permanent Residents? After all there will be some like us who may ultimately be forced to choose between staying in Canada or seeing their grandchildren grow up.

No sense arguing. You cannot sponsor her so she needs to make a decision on what to do. Assume she has a SIN number so she can at least get a job If she plans to come to Canada on her own. She is still PR but will need to be in Canada for a few years to meet RO and then sponsor her family.

 

[armoured]

I here what you are saying but I don't' think it has to be an either/or. I would not decry the PGP program but if you can justify granting PR to economically inactive old folks then why not the working age children of existing Permanent Residents? After all there will be some like us who may ultimately be forced to choose between staying in Canada or seeing their grandchildren grow up.

Well, as you may have gathered, I'm personally not a fan of the PGP program. And your child is, of course, able to apply for and get a PR on her own or her spouse's merits (or as described above by entering on her not-yet cancelled status, although that's not without risk).

But regardless of that - it is what it is, and my having some sympathy for your points doesn't change anything. There is not a program to sponsor adult children.