I am travelling with my wife, and yes, we will be alone where we are staying. It's a small guest house on her dad's property. We are also going to be in a rural area where our closest neighbours are a kilometre down the road. We are lucky to have access to an ideal quarantine location.
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As far as most people not having a "legitimate" quarantine plane, that's usually not their fault. People have access to the property they own/rent or where family/friends can house them. The solution shouldn't be to impose a $2,000+ burden on people with limited resources, especially when it doesn't seem to be working. There is a difference between taking a weekend trip to Cancun and families relocating permanently from abroad. The two groups shouldn't be treated the same.
You know that it's not actually $2000+, right? The original statement was up to two thousand, and in practice it's considerably less.
One has to actually check what the hotels are charging. Obviously not free but per person goes down if sharing a room,etc. And some hotels better than others.
Travelers staying at highend hotels such as Fairmont can easily spend as much as $2000 + if they include add-ons such as better internet, dining credits, pet fee, etc.
Sure. You can spend a lot more if you wish. You can also spend a thousand on a gold flaked hamburger. But the option to pay more is not really relevant to the complaint that it's too expensive.
I think I buried the turn of phrase I borrowed from some economist, that a thousand dollar hamburger on the menu at a five star restaurant doesn't really tell you anything about the price of ground beef at the butcher's. Anyway off topic but always liked that formulation.
As a reasonable person it makes sense to safely quarantine at home if you have access to property, unfortunately some don't and they are not interested in following the rules. The government has data on this and decided to impose their tactics due to the bad behavior by some putting Canadians at risk. If everyone followed the rules I'm sure there would be no 3-day hotel stay and it was not designed to be convenient or cost effective.
In my area some more affluent travelers just paid the $3k fine and went home after they arrived at YVR because they were concerned with their own safety and didn't want to have any issues at the quarantine hotels that was reported in the media. I am aware of a popular quarantine hotel in Toronto that was removed from the approved government reservation line due to a covid outbreak along with many issues at other hotels.
Travelers are clearly not happy and if you have limited resources then why travel at this time?
It's going to cost you something If you absolutely have to.
If people can not afford a quarantine location that will not put non-travelers at risk then people shouldn't be travelling. The hotel quarantine was put in place to hopefully prevent infected people going into situations where they then spread covid to their entire household. It still happens because people can develop covid after their initial airport screening. If current quarantine methods were working we would have no community spread of the delta variant.
What’s going on with Peel region lol I went outside to the park (a big one in Mississauga) with my wife. Everyone is swimming (kids, adults), barbecue, parties, playing, almost no masks, no social distancing, dancing.
I’ve never seen such a big mess. I don’t know if people are tired or something else
We left quickly lol
I’ve never seen such a big mess. I don’t know if people are tired or something else
We left quickly lol
If you are talking about leisure travel, you have a point. Leisure travel can be postponed. But what about people who have work contracts abroad that are coming to an end and need to return to Canada because their visa is expiring or because they need another source of income? "Now is not the time to travel" is an overly broad statement that doesn't account for all circumstances.
Does anyone think that Canada will be closed off to unvaccinated people in the near future? For example, only vaccinated people can enter the country? I'm probably just being paranoid, but I keep worrying about it. I plan on moving back to Canada at the beginning of July, and my husband (PA) will go to Canada at the end of July. We're in Japan now, and there's no way that we'll be able to get vaccinated anytime soon.
It's far too early for them to bring in something like this, so no. Particularly until there's some more widely-accepted standard documentation demonstrating vaccination. And personally I doubt that there would be such an outright ban on entry for quite some time - not until the vaccine is widely available worldwide.
Much more likely (and already being recommended, although again, too early for them to implement, but probably coming soon...ish) is some kind of differential system where vaccinated individuals would have to quarantine for shorter periods and/or different testing regime. Possibly also with some different treatment depending on where a traveller is coming from (although this will be more controversial with all the different variants and global travel).
At any rate: not much you can specifically do right now except follow the news, keep safe, and get vaccinated when you can
In Quebec : (80+) can get their 2nd dose sooner. They’re allowed to move up their appointment for a second dose of COVID-19 vaccine ; indeed they’re eligible to do so starting this Monday, through the online booking system.
(French) :
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1798473/intervalle-doses-vaccin-quebec-covid-19-huit-semaines
(English): https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/covid-19-in-quebec-need-to-know-june-5-6-1.6054780
(French) :
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1798473/intervalle-doses-vaccin-quebec-covid-19-huit-semaines
(English): https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/covid-19-in-quebec-need-to-know-june-5-6-1.6054780
I find the stats when provided nationally so different than what we are given provincially. As of June 5, our province is reporting 72.6% first doses and 13% second. The first dose is much higher according to MB stats as compared to what Trevor Tombe has provided... and it wouldn't jump that much since he reported.
https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/special/coronavirus/COVID-19-by-the-numbers-569451931.html?utm_source=salesforce&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=COVIDBriefing