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Habibti

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cher43 said:
well just came back from my lawyers she seems to think i only have a 50 % chance of winning because of the age difference and the country he is from which is Tunisia She said i will have a adr hearing ..but told me to drop the appeal after ADr if didnt go good and start over again iam at a lose because she also said that they would most likely refuse him again :(
Very sorry about your ordeal. I have been through the same one. My husband comes from North Africa and I am 20 years older than him. You won't get ADR. Likely you will get full hearing like us. If I were you, I would choose another lawyer... I hired an immigration consultant and she had total faith in us and in winning the appeal. She was such a bulldozer and she did not miss out a single detail. It is IMPORTANT to pick someone who is determined and strongly believe in you to defend your case!!!
 

cher43

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So you think i should take the appeal why is this lawyer making me feel like i will lose the appeal .
 

cher43

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Habibti why did they refuse you mine was marriage was not genuine
 

Mrs Selim

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@gsize..my husband and i have same age diff and he is from Egypt..yah we are all in same boat ,we need to be eachoters support..
 

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cher43 said:
well just came back from my lawyers she seems to think i only have a 50 % chance of winning because of the age difference and the country he is from which is Tunisia She said i will have a adr hearing ..but told me to drop the appeal after ADr if didnt go good and start over again iam at a lose because she also said that they would most likely refuse him again :(
Hi Cher. I just had to add my 2 cents too. I also married a man from Tunisia, 20 years younger than I, and although my lawyer also told me that we had a 50/50 chance to win, we won our full hearing in February of this year. In my opinion, my lawyer had good reason to tell me this though, because I had a lot more going against me than just age difference. (this is also my 2nd sponsorship, 3rd marriage) Listen, don't let what your lawyer told you, bother you, please! Maybe you should get another lawyer, if she has a negative attitude, but for me, I believe my lawyer did the right thing in telling me this. His philosophy was to make us believe that it wouldn't be easy to win (and he was right), cuz he wanted me and my husband to work extra hard. We studied every chance we got, right up to the day of our appeal, and it paid off. We read thru all our chat history from day one, and studied all our proof that we sent in with our initial application, to make sure we were consistent in our testimonies. It's crucial to know important dates like, when you first met, when you first said "I love you", when your spouse proposed, how he/she proposed and what was said, and where, & who contacted who first, and when, on the internet (if that's how you met), etc., etc., etc. You have to testify how your relationship evolved in a way that is consistent, honest and makes sense to the tribunal. Future plans are also important, and what your plans are if you lose your appeal. It's important that they find both you & your spouse to be 'credible' & 'spontaneous' witnesses. If you can show them in the appeal hearing, (and you 'will' get a full hearing, or your ADR will fail, and you will go on to a full hearing), that your marriage is genuine and that your spouse didn't marry you just to come to Canada, then you can win. You don't have to show that you have a perfect marriage, just a 'real' one. Telling them that your meeting was 'destiny', usually doesn't fly with them. It has to sound believable. You can also look up old appeals on the internet which will give you a good idea, on what questions they like to ask in appeals too at http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/irb/ Don't re-apply if you lose your ADR (if you get one). Go on to the full hearing, this is your best chance. Most people who re-apply, get refused a 2nd time. (Just look up res judicata) If I can win with all I had going against me, then 'you' can win too! I know it's hard going thru all this, but 'anything worth having, is worth fighting for!' Best of luck to you!
 

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cher43 said:
Has anyone hear lost their appeal?
Yes, I did.
TunisianBride has some good advice above. There are things you can do to make the appeal go better - such as practicing answering questions that will probably be asked, and making sure you and your spouse have the same answers for the basic things.
 

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@TunisianBride..can i bring my parents to the hearing??
 

tunisianbride

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Mrs Selim said:
@ TunisianBride..can i bring my parents to the hearing??
Oh yes, bring your parents. I brought my mom (my father is deceased) and my younger brother, for both sittings. My lawyer said that this shows that we have our family's love and support, and this looks good in the tribunal member's eyes. In my opinion, I think the MC (Minister's Counsel) asked me less embarrassing questions because my 85 yr. old mom was in the room. (but I could be wrong) ;) But, everyone has to remember, that they (tribunal) look at the 'entire picture' and all the proof, and put it together to determine whether the marriage is genuine or not. Some people believe that if they can just "prove one thing" that to them, proves their marriage is real, then they will win, but it doesn't work that way. Do everything you can, or gather as my proof as possible, to prove your marriage is real.
 

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I also think it is a good idea to have family and friends at the hearing. It shows people support your relationship. At my hearing, the judge asked why no one from my family was there. My parents were both too sick to come (my mom died 10 days after the hearing), but I guess it would have been better if my sisters could have been there.
 

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how long did it take for a appeal hearing ??
 

cher43

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Thanks everyone (a Ray of hope) i wish everyone the best i will say a pray for everyone ..i just recieved a letter from lawyer she still doesnt think a appeal is good i think i need a new lawyer she still wants me to do sponsorship over again
 

HAMADA_EGYPT

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cher43 said:
Thanks everyone (a Ray of hope) i wish everyone the best i will say a pray for everyone ..i just recieved a letter from lawyer she still doesnt think a appeal is good i think i need a new lawyer she still wants me to do sponsorship over again
OUR CASES ARE ALMOST THE SAME
WE GONNA NEED A GOOD LAWYER
AND BRINGING THE FAMILY HELPS TOO
 

Habibti

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cher43 said:
Has anyone hear lost their appeal?
I heard of one case only on this forum. A young man in Morocco who married a woman 23 years older than him. They lost their appeal 3 times. I must say that they were not prepared and could not answer most of the questions. Don't worry... most appeals are allowed.
 

Habibti

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cher43 said:
Habibti why did they refuse you mine was marriage was not genuine
The same for us: marriage not genuine. Because of the age difference (20 years) and I was divorced with a son. My husband never married, no previous children. I was fully employed, my husband unemployed. Different cultures, different religions, different economic situation. The VO could not accept the fact my husband did not want children. In court, the Ministry's counsel grilled us on and on and on about this issue. They found it strange that my husband refuses to have children of his own.

The other factor was that the VO completely messed up our case (see my previous posts that explain everything).