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wait_so_long

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habeeb said:
Unfortunately it's highly unlikely for a refused spouse to be given visa for any reason. The government only sees it as a high risk that the person will not go home when their visa expires. You can apply but more than likely it would be a waste of time and money.
That's so true. We applied for a TRV for my wife and son to come visit during his summer break, but was refused. We had already been married for over a year at that time, and had not yet put in our application for PRV. The reason for refusal was that they were not sure they would return at the end of the summer. Why would we do such a stupid thing to jeopardize our PRV application?

I am sure the refusal was a red flag when it came time to assess our PRV application. Then they had the audacity to say that we did not spend enough time together as one of the refusal reasons. arrggghhhh .....
 

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deeafahd said:
thx a lot for your reply, well my husband will most likely leave soon since he has some projects at work so probably is better to not change any information... We just let them know that he is here and send the some proof of that... Can you tell me why they denie you? What was your red flags? Just coz u did not spent enoigh time together? You did not spend before marriage or after? Thx
Don't just send some proof of your time together over the past 5 months .... send an over-abundance of proof. It might be a very important part of your appeal. Always better to have too much rather than not enough. But don't send 200 photos from the same event, or anything like that. Different clothes, different times of day, different weather, different places, different groups of people ... mix it up a bit.
 
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tony000 said:
Me and My Wife wants to have best Immigration Lawyer so Our Google search came up with '' Niren and Associates'' in Toronto. We want the best bcz We feels our case is bit complex ( Age gape , Culture differences and my Study Refusal in 2013) made it different.However in refusal Letter they did not mention any of above reasons, it was just written ''Marriage is not Guinean'' . We are waiting for the Blue Book.

Me and My wife is looking into if we can get our Hearing done in Vancouver other thn Edmonton bcz Vancouver Processing times are much lesser thn Edmonton. My wife can travel From Edt to Van. By doing this if we can save even 6 months, it wont be a bad deal at all.

No I'm not in Canada . My wife Lives in Edmonton.
If you are looking to having your appeal heard in Vancouver, it might be better to have a vancouver-based immigration lawyer. They'd be more familiar with the people there, what their record and biases are, which ones to avoid, etc. Also, you wouldn't have to pay for travel and accommodations for your lawyer. It'd be better for your lawyer to be there in person than to teleconference in.
 

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habeeb said:
Can anyone tell me if I should print out each email between my spouse and I individually for the appeal or just a screen shot of the list of emails?
I'd say both. The list of emails will serve as an index and summary of sorts, and the actual emails will hopefully have content to support your case. You wouldn't have to print out every single email, although some people do.
 

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mikeymyke said:
Thommo, there's a user named wintersnow, search his name and ask him for his experience. He has a similar situation to you, him and his wife speak English, but the wife uses translation software to communicate. I didn't think they would be successful given that they can't communicate without translation software, but they were successful in their appeal.

Thanks for your suggestion. My wife can communicate with me in English and her English is improving all the time. I'm confident of succeeding in the appeal. I know setback is only in terms of lost time.
 

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Dhaksha said:
Guys my visa has been refused.. My v.o was counter number 6. And the reason in refusal letter was ridiculous it says there was no priest and saptapadi in our Mar according to hindu marriage act priest is saptapadi is important so i have given registrar false information and got fake certificate. Bt her statement was totally wrong im from tamilnadu in india only tamilnadu legalise wedding widout priest and they have also amended that in marriage act 1962... Other than appeal is there anyother way to write the v.o that her information is wrong pls give some idea... Jus for the sake of v.o fault i cant wait again for 2 yrs in the name of appeal..

And they have took whole 17 months just to tell this which is also not right information... Even if a illiterate google about registration in tamilnadu it clearly says the process and i never told that there was no witness in the marriage she has also mentioned that i told her in interview that there was no priest or witness in our marriage am i crack to tell her there was no witness I even showed her the photos of our witness wat can i do
Is that the only reason they give in the Refusal Letter?

Best to wait for your BlueBook, to see what else took place during the interview, and other areas of concern.

I'm pretty sure your only recourse is Appeal, even for factual mistakes. But if the only reason for refusal is as straightforward as you say, you will be granted ADR, in which you will be given a chance to clear up the mistake. ADR is much shorter wait time. Make sure you have solid evidence.

Beyond that, you still need to show that the marriage (relationship) is genuine. Not just the marriage (ceremony/registration). And that the main reason for the marriage was not to gain admission into Canada.
 

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Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25-5-2013
Med's Done....
01-06-2016
Passport Req..
Waiting
VISA ISSUED...
Waiting
LANDED..........
waiting
wait_so_long said:
Is that the only reason they give in the Refusal Letter?

Best to wait for your BlueBook, to see what else took place during the interview, and other areas of concern.

I'm pretty sure your only recourse is Appeal, even for factual mistakes. But if the only reason for refusal is as straightforward as you say, you will be granted ADR, in which you will be given a chance to clear up the mistake. ADR is much shorter wait time. Make sure you have solid evidence.

Beyond that, you still need to show that the marriage (relationship) is genuine. Not just the marriage (ceremony/registration). And that the main reason for the marriage was not to gain admission into Canada.
SV670 said:
Hi Daksha,

Really sorry to hear about your refusal, if I'm not mistaken VO must be same Short Name SN, and she seemed to be lacking knowledge about visa system, even big time lacking common sense. Check my timeline, and see, we are suffering for more than 4 years 7 months.

And next step is there is nothing much you could do other than APPEAL, and we all are hoping that off late, all appeals are being processed fast.

You would've to appeal, and take the next step fast.

SV670
Hi The same lady made stupid decision for me as well in 2013. Because of her We had to go through so much pain, still struggling to get unite.
 

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wait_so_long said:
That's so true. We applied for a TRV for my wife and son to come visit during his summer break, but was refused. We had already been married for over a year at that time, and had not yet put in our application for PRV. The reason for refusal was that they were not sure they would return at the end of the summer. Why would we do such a stupid thing to jeopardize our PRV application?

I am sure the refusal was a red flag when it came time to assess our PRV application. Then they had the audacity to say that we did not spend enough time together as one of the refusal reasons. arrggghhhh .....
Absolutely! Reasons given for refusal are so illogical.
My wife's TRV application was refused too under similar circumstances. Generic reply gave the same reason for refusal. Inquiry through MP made IRCC give another reason - applicant doesn't have strong ties in home country and in Canada. OMG! Her each and every member is in her home country and her husband (me) is in Canada.
 

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Category........
Visa Office......
Rome/Ottawa/Rome
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
30-07-2013
AOR Received.
15-08-2013
File Transfer...
27-08-2013
Med's Request
April 27, 2016
Med's Done....
27-08-2013/May 2016
Interview........
22-11-2013/denied/won appeal March 2016
Passport Req..
August 9, 2016
VISA ISSUED...
August 29, 2016
LANDED..........
Flight booked for September 10, 2016
Got the email today! Passport is ready for courier! Booked my husbands flight for September 10th!!! Wish you guys all the best with your appeals
 
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can/alb said:
Got the email today! Passport is ready for courier! Booked my husbands flight for September 10th!!! Wish you guys all the best with your appeals
Congratulations! The nightmare is finally over for you! Hopefully going through this ordeal together made your relationship stronger. Although it will never make up for the lost years.
 

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tofanikanudo said:
Hi The same lady made stupid decision for me as well in 2013. Because of her We had to go through so much pain, still struggling to get unite.
Did you appeal the decision in 2013? What was the result, and is this a new application?
 

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Passport Req..
blue book received march 2015
wait_so_long said:
Congratulations! The nightmare is finally over for you! Hopefully going through this ordeal together made your relationship stronger. Although it will never make up for the lost years.
Oh wow is so nice to see so many people getting their passport requests..congratulations to all. we won the appeal in september last year and still waiting...i am not sure if i should contact the mp again or what to do to find out what the hold up is.
 

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Thommo said:
Absolutely! Reasons given for refusal are so illogical.
My wife's TRV application was refused too under similar circumstances. Generic reply gave the same reason for refusal. Inquiry through MP made IRCC give another reason - applicant doesn't have strong ties in home country and in Canada. OMG! Her each and every member is in her home country and her husband (me) is in Canada.
It seems that a great many of these reasons are a double-edge sword. Either way it swings, it can work against you. For example, having strong ties in Canada could also be seen as higher-risk of not returning. Or having strong ties in home country could possibly be an opening for international child abduction. The guidelines are probably based on precedence, but generally end up being lose-lose for the applicant, solely at the whim of the visa officer assessing the application, as over time, there have been precedence set either way.

Due to volume, they can't afford to assess each TRV case in depth, and on its own merits, but a little critical thinking can go a long way.

This applies even more so in the case of an application for PRV, where they have the time, and duty, for a more in-depth assessment. Why would not knowing your husband's ex-wife's date of birth be an indication that your marriage is not genuine?

In real life, when a husband that talks incessantly about his ex-wife, it's an indication of a troubled present marriage. Similarly, a partner that remembers and compartmentalizes everything you say, well ... most people wouldn't take it as an indication of a healthy future either. These things may come up in conversation to give your partner a better picture of you as a person, but not meant to be memorized because you will be tested on it later.

You have a whole lifetime to learn about each other. That you wife doesn't know the name of your sister's husband, that she's never met, should not be taken as a sign of a ingenuine marriage.

Rant over, for now ...
 

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Hi
I got refusal for spousal sponsership New Delhi 22 august 16

I discussed with my MP of my province regarding the refusal.

They suggest me to go for appeal.
They cannot help rightnow , but they told me that, I should appeal first and then go and meet MP office.
they will help me getting the hearing

Do they help in getting hearing early ???
What type of help they can do ?????
 

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Have they held your interview??
Hema66666666 said:
Hi
I got refusal for spousal sponsership New Delhi 22 august 16

I discussed with my MP of my province regarding the refusal.

They suggest me to go for appeal.
They cannot help rightnow , but they told me that, I should appeal first and then go and meet MP office.
they will help me getting the hearing

Do they help in getting hearing early ???
What type of help they can do ?????