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chocolate78118

Star Member
May 8, 2014
114
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SJTZ said:
This is an open query to all members. First i will explain a situation for which the question came to my mind.

"One of my known person recently shared an experience. He and his wife applied under FSW 2014 where his wife is the main applicant. She applied under NOC . She completed her bachelors and masters from business administration and now working in a renowned company of Bangladesh. She received her AOR at around mid of October 2014. After that, she received a mail from SGVO which is her local VO to explain further her Job Description and submit more proof on her eligibility of being selected in the mentioned NOC as they found her education and her desired NOC does not match." :eek: :eek: :eek:

Now my question is, what does this proof mean? I have to have Business degree to work in any field of Business, i might not have a Marketing major to work as Marketing person. At least in Bangladesh, we do not need it.

I am kinda worried as i am also a business graduate without majoring in the subject of my applied NOC.

Please help.
Has cic contacted her employer? In many cases hr of an organization claim that they do not hire employees outside the major requierement. However in true picture this maynot be real.
 

SJTZ

Hero Member
Oct 21, 2014
458
24
Dhaka
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
0112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25/06/2014
Nomination.....
22/10/2014
AOR Received.
01/12/2014
File Transfer...
21/10/2014
Med's Request
18/07/2016
Med's Done....
06/08/2016
Passport Req..
16/08/2016
VISA ISSUED...
29/08/2016
LANDED..........
12/11/2016
chocolate78118 said:
Has cic contacted her employer? In many cases hr of an organization claim that they do not hire employees outside the major requierement. However in true picture this maynot be real.
chocolate bro,

I asked her if her employers were contacted or not. She replied negative.
 

Shamrajjo

Champion Member
Jan 6, 2015
1,356
344
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chocolate78118 said:
Has cic contacted her employer? In many cases hr of an organization claim that they do not hire employees outside the major requierement. However in true picture this maynot be real.
SJTZ said:
chocolate bro,

I asked her if her employers were contacted or not. She replied negative.
Hi,

From my observation that applicant needs to proof working process by working experience from the company though academic qualification is not match with NOC or job description.

May be it could be -

1. Company organogram chart
2. How many employees are working in the organization that could be important for a HR roles
3. Some evidents of any training conducting to any employee to the organization which is very vital point for a manager role.
4. if she work more than 3~5 years should be received training from company could help her to proof it.
5. As you mentioned she is working in a multinational company, is there any foreign visit to other country office for HR meeting or any training materials could help.
6. Any recognition award from company or any other colleagues from same company.
7. Any social network (like LinkedIn) could help to get some proof of her eligibilities to be in NOC.
etc.

This is just coming from my mind but not sure it will help to you.

Thanks.
 

SJTZ

Hero Member
Oct 21, 2014
458
24
Dhaka
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
0112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25/06/2014
Nomination.....
22/10/2014
AOR Received.
01/12/2014
File Transfer...
21/10/2014
Med's Request
18/07/2016
Med's Done....
06/08/2016
Passport Req..
16/08/2016
VISA ISSUED...
29/08/2016
LANDED..........
12/11/2016
Quote from: chocolate78118 on January 15, 2015, 01:28:16 am
Has cic contacted her employer? In many cases hr of an organization claim that they do not hire employees outside the major requierement. However in true picture this maynot be real.

Quote from: SJTZ on January 15, 2015, 02:04:30 am
chocolate bro,

I asked her if her employers were contacted or not. She replied negative.

Shamrajjo said:
Hi,

From my observation that applicant needs to proof working process by working experience from the company though academic qualification is not match with NOC or job description.

May be it could be -

1. Company organogram chart
2. How many employees are working in the organization that could be important for a HR roles
3. Some evidents of any training conducting to any employee to the organization which is very vital point for a manager role.
4. if she work more than 3~5 years should be received training from company could help her to proof it.
5. As you mentioned she is working in a multinational company, is there any foreign visit to other country office for HR meeting or any training materials could help.
6. Any recognition award from company or any other colleagues from same company.
7. Any social network (like LinkedIn) could help to get some proof of her eligibilities to be in NOC.
etc.

This is just coming from my mind but not sure it will help to you.

Thanks.
They are actually asking for explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education within 30 days. she is working in marketing team and she received many awards for good work.

So can anyone tell me what is explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education ?
 

halojen14

Full Member
Dec 5, 2014
36
1
No news Frm SGVO in 1112

Dear Members

Still in new year 2015 I got no good news in 1112 from SGVO though I applied in 1112 got AOR in 31st Oct & PER in 16th Sep :eek:
 

Shamrajjo

Champion Member
Jan 6, 2015
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SJTZ said:
Quote from: chocolate78118 on January 15, 2015, 01:28:16 am
Has cic contacted her employer? In many cases hr of an organization claim that they do not hire employees outside the major requierement. However in true picture this maynot be real.

Quote from: SJTZ on January 15, 2015, 02:04:30 am
chocolate bro,

I asked her if her employers were contacted or not. She replied negative.

They are actually asking for explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education within 30 days. she is working in marketing team and she received many awards for good work.

So can anyone tell me what is explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education ?
Hi,

Simply I understand that her job description/experience didn't match her NOC as well as her education.

For an example - if any one applied for NOC-0111, Financial Managers but worked in the position of “Manager, Corporate Banking” at HSBC, defiantly the Officer responsible for reviewing the application rejected it and supplied a brief explanation for her reasoning. The Officer felt that the job description and tasks for a Manager of Corporate Banking did not match the NOC-0111 requirements even though there were some similarities.

Thanks
 

speculucky

Full Member
Jan 7, 2015
37
0
Category........
Visa Office......
SGVO
NOC Code......
1112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-05-2014
AOR Received.
28-07-2014
Med's Request
30-10-2014
Med's Done....
10-11-2014
Passport Req..
09-12-2014
VISA ISSUED...
22-12-2014
LANDED..........
Ahh...sweet dreams
Just got the mail from CIIP for the session in Dhaka from 10-12 Feb'15.
Ziafsw is going that I know...who else is going?
They haven't mentioned any venue though.
 

speculucky

Full Member
Jan 7, 2015
37
0
Category........
Visa Office......
SGVO
NOC Code......
1112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
01-05-2014
AOR Received.
28-07-2014
Med's Request
30-10-2014
Med's Done....
10-11-2014
Passport Req..
09-12-2014
VISA ISSUED...
22-12-2014
LANDED..........
Ahh...sweet dreams
afaruq said:
I got the CLIPS Invitation E-mail for the New schedule adn here i can see the name of Dhaka on February dates.
Are u guys going
have they mentioned venue name?
 

SJTZ

Hero Member
Oct 21, 2014
458
24
Dhaka
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
0112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
25/06/2014
Nomination.....
22/10/2014
AOR Received.
01/12/2014
File Transfer...
21/10/2014
Med's Request
18/07/2016
Med's Done....
06/08/2016
Passport Req..
16/08/2016
VISA ISSUED...
29/08/2016
LANDED..........
12/11/2016
Quote from: SJTZ on January 15, 2015, 02:42:00 am
Quote from: chocolate78118 on January 15, 2015, 01:28:16 am
Has cic contacted her employer? In many cases hr of an organization claim that they do not hire employees outside the major requierement. However in true picture this maynot be real.

Quote from: SJTZ on January 15, 2015, 02:04:30 am
chocolate bro,

I asked her if her employers were contacted or not. She replied negative.

They are actually asking for explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education within 30 days. she is working in marketing team and she received many awards for good work.

So can anyone tell me what is explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education ?


Shamrajjo said:
Hi,

Simply I understand that her job description/experience didn't match her NOC as well as her education.

For an example - if any one applied for NOC-0111, Financial Managers but worked in the position of “Manager, Corporate Banking” at HSBC, defiantly the Officer responsible for reviewing the application rejected it and supplied a brief explanation for her reasoning. The Officer felt that the job description and tasks for a Manager of Corporate Banking did not match the NOC-0111 requirements even though there were some similarities.

Thanks
Ok now i get it. So there is chance to ask for job description to find eligibility with NOC after being primarily selected.

Thanks a lot.
 

Shamrajjo

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Jan 6, 2015
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SJTZ said:
Quote from: SJTZ on January 15, 2015, 02:42:00 am
Quote from: chocolate78118 on January 15, 2015, 01:28:16 am
Has cic contacted her employer? In many cases hr of an organization claim that they do not hire employees outside the major requierement. However in true picture this maynot be real.

Quote from: SJTZ on January 15, 2015, 02:04:30 am
chocolate bro,

I asked her if her employers were contacted or not. She replied negative.

They are actually asking for explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education within 30 days. she is working in marketing team and she received many awards for good work.

So can anyone tell me what is explanation/ proof on Procedural Fairness on Work Exp/education ?


Ok now i get it. So there is chance to ask for job description to find eligibility with NOC after being primarily selected.

Thanks a lot.
You are welcome !!

However, procedural fairness requires that an Applicant be given the opportunity to respond to an Officer’s concerns under certain circumstances about job responsibilities and education....
 

Neon2014

Star Member
Nov 28, 2014
117
14
Category........
Visa Office......
SGVO
NOC Code......
3112
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-10-2014
Nomination.....
22/01/15 (PER)
AOR Received.
04/03/15
IELTS Request
sent with application
Med's Request
30-03-2015
Med's Done....
04-04-2015
Passport Req..
08-05-2015
VISA ISSUED...
22-05-2015
ashif_eee said:




Back to the home........:)

Guess all of u are fine.....

Actually I was moving rapidly for the past few weeks (visited 11 states of US in this single trip... :p )........

Asking my apology for the long absence.....I was not able to respond many of ur queries....

My wife has done her medical from US and I did mine one after reaching Bangladesh...

+1 to all of you for wishing me....

Praying for all of u whom have not rcvd their good news yet...

God is great....So lets have patience....



Hey bro
Congratz first of all. Is there any problem doing meds from other country..while visiting like u? nd is it really expensive?
 

dhakaattitude

Star Member
Nov 10, 2014
87
7
124
Dhaka, Bangladesh
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-05-2014
Nomination.....
11-09-2014
File Transfer...
24-10-2014
Hi Gurus!

7 of us namely v_i_r_u_s, aendromidous, mcgyver, mfi_faisal, Saikot, selim.hasan, dhakaattitude are stuck at ECAS 2nd line awaiting MR, app received time mostly is 250+ days. The other day I went to talk to my agents to discuss options for CSE & GCMS for a clearer picture however they scared me away by mentioning a case where They raised a CSE whereupon CIC/SGVO declined a file by cutting 2 points from work experience despite having passed the initial processing (and thereby lapsing his/her entire processing fee of CAD 550/applicant).

Now that we "The Lucky 7" are stuck for a while now what are the probabilities of fatal 'point cutting' and declining our application?


--
Regards,
FAISAL
 

Safir Khan

Star Member
Jan 6, 2015
95
11
Neon2014 said:
Hey bro
Congratz first of all. Is there any problem doing meds from other country..while visiting like u? nd is it really expensive?
My wife is the main applicant and applied in 2014 under NOC 2131. she got the PER on 29/09/2014 and AOR on 10/11/2014. Would it be possible for me to apply under Express Entry in 2015 as the main applicant??Thank u.. :)
 

Shamrajjo

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Jan 6, 2015
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Safir Khan said:
My wife is the main applicant and applied in 2014 under NOC 2131. she got the PER on 29/09/2014 and AOR on 10/11/2014. Would it be possible for me to apply under Express Entry in 2015 as the main applicant??Thank u.. :)
Why not... Go Ahead bhai.
All the best...
 

desertfox

Hero Member
Dec 9, 2014
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Safir Khan said:
My wife is the main applicant and applied in 2014 under NOC 2131. she got the PER on 29/09/2014 and AOR on 10/11/2014. Would it be possible for me to apply under Express Entry in 2015 as the main applicant??Thank u.. :)
Yes you can apply as principal applicant in EE, but your wifr's FSW14 will be processed earlier since she already got AOR