ALL ABOUT GCMS - HOW TO ORDER, READ, & GENERAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED

[Mthornt]

This is note from the Program Assistant, who reviewed your file. You have been recommended passed and now this note will be reviewed by an agent, who will make this determination final. Most agents will agree with the program assistant or an analyst's assessment.

The eligibility is an overall things, the verification of IELTS is done at R10 level, so nothing to worry about.

Thanks for your insight...

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi Legalfalcon,

Hope you are doing well.
My AOR is 28th January and i am inland PNP. My medical passed on 10th April and background in progress since then.

I got ADR on 3rd of May about submitting our son's birth certificate with name of parents. We submitted requested document on 9th of May and it says you have uploaded the document.

I emailed CPC ottawa to know my visa office. On 11th of April my file was at CIO and on 2nd May it was at cpc ottawa and again I emailed them yesterday and got reply which says - I confirm that your file is at our office and end of the email I can see CPC ottawa address and agent name.

Where does R10, eligibility and criminality checks done? By reading GMCS notes I have got some understanding that criminality and R10 is passed at CIO and eligibility is recommended pass at CIO and then file moves to CPC for inland for final approval. Is it right?
Yes, the R10 and Criminality are usually done at CIO and the eligibility is done at CPC, which for inland applicants is LVO.

Also, as far as criminality is concerned, they follow the NRT on PCC to pass criminality. I am Indian with clean PCC Or do they contact courts and local police station with every application? According to all GMCS notes, criminality is passed following clean pcc on file.

Criminality is based merely on the PCCs you submit. It varies from country to country, so an applicant coming from a country where there is a serious law and order problem, even though the criminality will be cleared based on PCC, additional checks will be done during the security. As far as India goes, it has a great reputation and is in compliance with most international laws and treaties, for Indian applicants the PCC act as criminality check. However, during security, a more robust check is done which includes checking international databases, depending on the countries an applicant has travelled to they will search for known immigration fraud, association with any banned or controversial organization and on case to case basis ay contact local authorities. But, generally speaking, most applicants have a clear record and rarely a probe is required.

Sorry for long message. I am asking this to understand the process and get some insights on my application. Also, I want to know how they verify PCC.

 

[mikek27]

@legalfalcon I was just reading your reply above to another post.

I've got a question regarding security:

I'm a NEw Zealand citizen (passport holder) but was born in Jakarta, Indonesia.
I just have the NZ citizenship though. My family migrated to NZ in 2002, became citizens in 2007.

I'm the past 10 years or since 18, I have only travelled to Canada (where I reside now) and USA (twice for 5 days each for holiday).

No military service.

Do you think they'll do an extra additional security screening based on where I was born and not my current citizenship ?

Indonesia isn't bad but it's a Muslim country.

Also PNP inland AoR Dec 28.
My BG changed from ip1 to NA on May 24. It seems like on average it takes at least a month from NA to IP2 ...does this mean i won't get PPR before July ? Have u ever seen anyone go from NA to IP2 in just 2-3 weeks ?

 

[legalfalcon]

@legalfalcon I was just reading your reply above to another post.

I've got a question regarding security:

I'm a NEw Zealand citizen (passport holder) but was born in Jakarta, Indonesia.
I just have the NZ citizenship though. My family migrated to NZ in 2002, became citizens in 2007.

I'm the past 10 years or since 18, I have only travelled to Canada (where I reside now) and USA (twice for 5 days each for holiday).

No military service.

Do you think they'll do an extra additional security screening based on where I was born and not my current citizenship ?

Indonesia isn't bad but it's a Muslim country.

Also PNP inland AoR Dec 28.
My BG changed from ip1 to NA on May 24. It seems like on average it takes at least a month from NA to IP2 ...does this mean i won't get PPR before July ? Have u ever seen anyone go from NA to IP2 in just 2-3 weeks ?

CSIS is the organization which conducts security or BGCs. They do not disclose their procedures. My post, which you are referring to is based on my personal experience working with security agencies. there are a lot of parameters which are considered. Age, country of birth, age when you moved, travel history, family history and many other factors. It is very subjective and there is no one criteria that will determine what will happen.

I have seen applicants who were employees in a company (a big multinational), which was under probe for white collar crime. Even though the applicant had no role and has left the company long back, it took almost a year to get his PPR. Other applicants who gave a long travel history, especially to drug source countries have to go through more stringent checks. Frequent travels without any justification is another ground.

In your case, sing you moved out of Indonesia, and given that Indonesia is pretty stable, I doubt that they will probe, but this is just speculation. What happens there, no one knows. Being a muslim country is no criteria. Many applicants from predominantly muslim countries successfully go through a BGC fairly quickly. It all depends subjective factors. No straight jacket answer.

As regards your last questions, I cannot predict. Application go to NA from IP, which is normal. Have you ordered GCMS?

If your eligibility passed.

 

[shaheerjaved]

@legalfalcon I was just reading your reply above to another post.

I've got a question regarding security:

I'm a NEw Zealand citizen (passport holder) but was born in Jakarta, Indonesia.
I just have the NZ citizenship though. My family migrated to NZ in 2002, became citizens in 2007.

I'm the past 10 years or since 18, I have only travelled to Canada (where I reside now) and USA (twice for 5 days each for holiday).

No military service.

Do you think they'll do an extra additional security screening based on where I was born and not my current citizenship ?

Indonesia isn't bad but it's a Muslim country.

Also PNP inland AoR Dec 28.
My BG changed from ip1 to NA on May 24. It seems like on average it takes at least a month from NA to IP2 ...does this mean i won't get PPR before July ? Have u ever seen anyone go from NA to IP2 in just 2-3 weeks ?

Hi legalfalon,

I have a supplementary question to the appended post:

Is '''security screening' different from '''security' or both of these are found in every applicants gcms notes. I am asking this as both of these are in my notes. Specifically, ''security screening'' is showing up as a subactivity of '''security' in admissiibilities section.

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi legalfalon,

I have a supplementary question to the appended post:

Is '''security screening' different from '''security' or both of these are found in every applicants gcms notes. I am asking this as both of these are in my notes. Specifically, ''security screening'' is showing up as a subactivity of '''security' in impossibilities section.

Security, BGC, security screening are mostly the same, but depends on here they show up. You will never see BGC in GCMS, but in MyCIC that is what shows up. Security screening can also refer to local security checks by the LVO.

 

[Sugar2016]

Security, BGC, security screening are mostly the same, but depends on here they show up. You will never see BGC in GCMS, but in MyCIC that is what shows up. Security screening can also refer to local security checks by the LVO.

i also have "Security Screening" in my GCMS but my application has not reached LVO. As i have been stuck on IP2 since late March, i believe the below post to be true:

Security Screening
Applicants with a particularly concerning background (such as a specific natural origin, or a military background, or frequent travel to certain countries) usually warrants the visa officer to request a security screening to be performed. This means that in addition to a quick security database check, the applicant's entire file gets sent to several security agencies in Canada (CSIS, CBSA, and RCMP) and the applicant's profile undergoes an in-depth check with includes getting in touch with the applicant's country of origin, and any other countries the applicant has lived in. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but from my experience (and of others, that I know of,) this is an unusually long process, that, in most cases, is stretching beyond a year (I know of many people who have security screening, and have been waiting for longer than a year in Express Entry.)

 

[legalfalcon]

i also have "Security Screening" in my GCMS but my application has not reached LVO. As i have been stuck on IP2 since late March, i believe the below post to be true:

Security Screening
Applicants with a particularly concerning background (such as a specific natural origin, or a military background, or frequent travel to certain countries) usually warrants the visa officer to request a security screening to be performed. This means that in addition to a quick security database check, the applicant's entire file gets sent to several security agencies in Canada (CSIS, CBSA, and RCMP) and the applicant's profile undergoes an in-depth check with includes getting in touch with the applicant's country of origin, and any other countries the applicant has lived in. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but from my experience (and of others, that I know of,) this is an unusually long process, that, in most cases, is stretching beyond a year (I know of many people who have security screening, and have been waiting for longer than a year in Express Entry.)

This is from my post which I wrote a long time back on BGC. Are you quoting me again?

https://fas.org/asmp/campaigns/control/Canadianexemptionsfoia/FOIA_4_22_05/P5HX.pdf

 

[Daria_1007]

Hi @legalfalcon !

I received my notes yesterday and as far as I understood everything except for the security is passed.
Security is withheld under S21 and S22. What does it mean?

 

[AABH]

Hi @legalfalcon !

I received my notes yesterday and as far as I understood everything except for the security is passed.
Security is withheld under S21 and S22. What does it mean?

I have S.21 in my notes too. ( everything except for the security is passed)

 

[narindersahib]

I have S.21 in my notes too. ( everything except for the security is passed)

has case officer reviewed your file ? any comment from officer in notes. when you say eligibility passed, that means final review has been competed.

 

[danish2016]

My notes generated 2 months after aor showed security as not started for myself spouse and also for security combined for application when it is mentioned on page 2 of notes
The next notes generated after 3 months of aor showed the security of all three (PA spouse and combined for application) updated by visa officer at LVO on the same date but it is hidden with S15.1 mentioned on all pages
Upon calling IRCC helpline they said my security is still in progress
Can anyone say anything about the situation
I feel security is passed

 

[Daria_1007]

has case officer reviewed your file ? any comment from officer in notes. when you say eligibility passed, that means final review has been competed.

What do you mean by "when you say eligibility passed, that means final review has been competed."? Many people with eligibility passed, are stuck at security screening(me, for example)

 

[Daria_1007]

My notes generated 2 months after aor showed security as not started for myself spouse and also for security combined for application when it is mentioned on page 2 of notes
The next notes generated after 3 months of aor showed the security of all three (PA spouse and combined for application) updated by visa officer at LVO on the same date but it is hidden with S15.1 mentioned on all pages
Upon calling IRCC helpline they said my security is still in progress
Can anyone say anything about the situation
I feel security is passed

Do you have security or security screening in your notes? If it is the latter, it will take longer than a regular security check

 

[danish2016]

I have security screening but it is also twice changed since it was not started.
Like it was not started on mar 22
Then security was updated
Then two more security screening activities but all blanked out with S15.1
Is it done?