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Again refused 4th TRV after 3 days with a new reason.

SINGH86

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Feb 9, 2014
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Again refused TRV with a new reason (I am not satisfied that you have answered truthfully all questions put to you) pls seniors help me. what type of reason is this ? please please help me i think this is not a genuine reason .....please advice me please
 

user828

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2012
3,439
82
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi ( Parents Sponsorship )
App. Filed.......
19-10-2017
AOR Received.
01-12-2017
Did you put NO to anything in the form? which was actually a YES or didn't explain the reason for visit ( they feel you are lying somewhere )

Order own GCMS notes and see proper explanation and officers notes - after 4 refusals, it would be miracle if you could visa for Canada

http://www.visafile.info/ or http://www.caips.ca/immigrationstatus.shtml
 

SINGH86

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Feb 9, 2014
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i expain each and everything in the form about my visit ...is this the big reason ? or can i reply my TRV again ?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,914
22,161
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
You can certainly try applying again. However after 4 refusals, I think the chances of approval are extremely low.

I agree that you should order your GCMS notes first to see what the officer's concerns really were.
 

SINGH86

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Feb 9, 2014
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senior i really dnt knw about GCMS can you please explain me what are GCMS and how they can be ordered ? Senior i am from chandigarh (india) Is it possible for me as well how much it cost ?

Thanks
 

user828

VIP Member
Apr 2, 2012
3,439
82
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi ( Parents Sponsorship )
App. Filed.......
19-10-2017
AOR Received.
01-12-2017
Use any of those sites to order notes ( immigration notes ) which will have more detailed info on your refusal. It will take around 1 month for it to come
 
Feb 21, 2014
21
2
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Pretoria, South Africa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
05-12-2013
AOR Received.
01-01-2014
Med's Done....
23-09-2013
Passport Req..
06-06-2014
I'm in a similar position where our TRV was denied 4x but the response is not very clear. I also read that in a previous case, a judge ordered that CIC officers should actually explain specifics to each case and not just use the checklist response. Can you please share what sites are you referring to? Or provide more details on how one can ask for the immigration notes? I would like to ask for our case's immigration notes.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,914
22,161
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
PatientlyWaitingSpouse said:
I'm in a similar position where our TRV was denied 4x but the response is not very clear. I also read that in a previous case, a judge ordered that CIC officers should actually explain specifics to each case and not just use the checklist response. Can you please share what sites are you referring to? Or provide more details on how one can ask for the immigration notes? I would like to ask for our case's immigration notes.
See the following link for information on how to order notes:

http://www.trackitt.com/canada-discussion-forums/canadian-experience-class/1272841907/what-are-gcms-notes-and-how-to-order-them
 

johnnycage

Star Member
May 24, 2013
67
0
Montreal
Category........
Visa Office......
Singapore
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-01-2014
Doc's Request.
19-10-2015
AOR Received.
23-02-2014
Med's Request
19-10-2015
Passport Req..
25-01-2016
PatientlyWaitingSpouse said:
I'm in a similar position where our TRV was denied 4x but the response is not very clear. I also read that in a previous case, a judge ordered that CIC officers should actually explain specifics to each case and not just use the checklist response. Can you please share what sites are you referring to? Or provide more details on how one can ask for the immigration notes? I would like to ask for our case's immigration notes.
You can get the case's notes by filling up an online form found at this link: www(dot)cic(dot)gc(dot)ca / english / department / atip / requests-atip(dot)asp
It costs 5$ and takes about a month to process. The case's notes will be emailed to you. As from every application sent to the CIC, don't expect any form of acknowledgment, so you just have to wait after you sent the request.
 

PMM

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Jun 30, 2005
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Hi


johnnycage said:
You can get the case's notes by filling up an online form found at this link: www(dot)cic(dot)gc(dot)ca / english / department / atip / requests-atip(dot)asp
It costs 5$ and takes about a month to process. The case's notes will be emailed to you. As from every application sent to the CIC, don't expect any form of acknowledgment, so you just have to wait after you sent the request.
1. The OP is overseas, so can't apply for the CGMS using privacy, has to authorized someone in Canada to do it, or pay one of the commercial companies.
 

SINGH86

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Feb 9, 2014
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After 4th refusal today i received my GCMS Letter from CIC :( and my travel agent did big mistake in the application form.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,914
22,161
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
SINGH86 said:
After 4th refusal today i received my GCMS Letter from CIC :( and my travel agent did big mistake in the application form.
It doesn't matter who made the mistake - you are responsible for it because it's your application.
 

SINGH86

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Feb 9, 2014
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yes dear, Officer said the client on his 4th attempt to obtain visa for Canada. In this application there is mention of his prev 3 refusalls, but there is no mention of his one refusal from the USA.This is fact of not revealing the US visa app is a concern. Please Seniors suggest me what should i do ? please please
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,914
22,161
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
SINGH86 said:
yes dear, Officer said the client on his 4th attempt to obtain visa for Canada. In this application there is mention of his prev 3 refusalls, but there is no mention of his one refusal from the USA.This is fact of not revealing the US visa app is a concern. Please Seniors suggest me what can i do next ? please please
You should forget about coming to Canada on any sort of temporary visa (work permit, study permit, visitor visa). There is now no chance you're going to be approved.

If you want to come to Canada you should now be focusing on applying to immigrate.
 

SINGH86

Full Member
Feb 9, 2014
20
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itz n't my mistake dear and officer mention clearly in the GCMS letter you Have good Travel History Like Uk/Schengen/Australia/ NZ/SE Asia /China and 3,4 Valid Visas :None previous Refusals in these Countrys.Can i reply my case with a apologize letter and mention each and everything in it.