Afghanistan Spouse Sponsorship thru India

[Wajea]

I have one Message for all Afghans who are living in abroad countries , i will post it after prayers. Inshallah

قابل توجه مردم افغانستان که در خارج از کشور به سر میبرند بیدون اینکه بدانند که چرا از همدیگر گریزانند و گرفتن همسر یا شوهر را از افغانستان ترجیح میدهند
تعریف ازدواج از دیدگاه اسلام
ازدواج مرحلة مهمی از تشکیل خاناده است که بیش از همه مراسم رویدادهای زندگی انسان در جنبه‌های متعدد فردی و زیستی و اجتماعی، امری جهانی و از نظر هدف ثابت و پایدار است. این فرآیند عبارت است از کنش متقابل مرد و زنی که برخی شرایط قانونی را تحقق بخشیده‌اند. ازدواج، بین فرهنگ و طبیعت تعادل برقرار می‌کند و از نوعی تقدًس برخوردار است و در مقایسه با سایر روابط انسانی، تمامیّتی بی‌نظیر دارد؛ بدین معنا که ابعاد زیستی، اقتصادی، عاطفی، روانی و اجتماعی زندگی را پوشش می‌دهد. تعالیم اسلام نیز بر نکات فوق در ازدواج تأکید دارد، هر چند برخی را بیشتر مورد توجه قرار می‌دهد.
در قرآن از ازدواج به عنوان «پیمانی محکم» یاد شده است و جملاتی که در عقد ازدواج و هم زمان با آن از سوی یک طرف گته می‌شود و طرف مقابل نیز آن را می‌پذیرد، نشان از استواری این پیوند دارد. برخی از این جملات از متن قرآن گرفته شده و بر این استوار است که زن و مرد باید به صورت مناسب و مطلوب به زندگی مشترک خویش ادامه دهند، و در صورتی که بخواهند از هم جدا شوند باید با احسان و نیکی به یکدیگر همراه باشد. در عین حال، پیمان زناشویی محکم‌ترین قرارداد اجتماعی است که می‌توان آن را ناشی از دوستی شدید و رحمت متقابل بین زن و شوهر دانست که قرآن به اشاره کرده است.
از آثار روان شناختی ازدواج که تا حدی به نوع این پیمان مربوط می‌شود، تأثیر و تأثر شدید زن و شوهر از یکدیگر است که شاید بتوان آن را عمیق‌ترین و قوی‌ترین تأثیر و تأثر متقابل در روابط اجتماعی دانست.ژ
اگر می‌بینیم در تعالیم اسلامی به افراد توصیه می‌شود پیش از اقدام به ازدواج، در گزینش همسر و انجام مراسم در مراحل بعدی، با نماز و دعا و توکل بر خدا رفتارهای خود را همراه کنند، به این جهت است که ازدواج را با معنویت همراه کنند و به آن تقدّس بخشند تا بتوانند زمینه تکامل و رشد انسانی را فراهم آورند.
از نکات دیگری که دین اسلام در ازدواج مورد توجه قرار داده، مراسم و تشریفات آن است. اهمیت این مراسم به حدی است که اولیای دین (ع) تفاوت ازدواج و روابط جنسی نامشروع را در برگزاری مراسم ویژه که معمولاً همراه با جشن و شادمانی است، اعلام کرده‌اند. جالب توجه آن است که تعالیم اسلام برای مراسم ازدواج، استثناهایی در نظر گرفته که درواقع به بُعد لزوم جشن و شادمانی در ازدواج باز می‌گردد. غنا که آوازخوانی طرب‌انگیز است، در برخی مراسم ازدواج با رعایت حدود خاص، جایز شمرده شده است. برگزاری مراسم ازدواج باعث می‌شود زن و شوهر، خود را از نظر روانی برای شروع یک زندگی مشترک آماده کنند و ازدواج را امر مهمی تلقی نمایند که افراد زیادی در فراهم آوردن شرایط آن یاری کرده‌اند، نه یک مسئله ساده در زندگی که بتوان به آسانی آن را به هم زد، یا به وظایف مترتب بر آن بی اعتنا بود. حضور و شادی دیگران در این مراسم به رضایت زوجین و افزایش ارزش مثبت خود آنها کمک می‌کند. شروع زندگی جدید با برگزاری مراسم، تشویق دیگران را به نوعی همراه دارد و زمینه ازدواج افراد دیگر را نیز فراهم می‌کند​

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چرا مردم ما با همدیگر که در کشورهای خارجی زندگی میکنند با هم ساخته نمیتوانند ؟
چرا مردم ما ترجیح میدهند که اگر از افغانستان خانم یا شوهر بیگیریم شاید به نفع ما باشد ؟
اصل مشکل در عدم مرعات نمودن اصول و احکام اسلامی هست ولی اینجا میخواهم به طرف دیگر آن نظر اندازی کنم
اگر کسی به این فکر هست طور مثال از افغانستان خانم/شوهر میگیرم گویا او از قوانین، مقررات و طرزالعمل ها و حقوق شهروندی خویش خبر ندارد و در یک فضای کاملاً بیخبری و غفلت همرایم کورکورانه همرایم زندگی خواهم کرد و هر آنچه من بالای او لازم دانم میکنم ، همانند یک چوپان که گوسفندانش را صبح به چراگاه میبرد و شب پس خانه می آورد !!! ه
اگر کسی به چنین افکار ازدواج میکند در حقیقت خود و طرف مقابل را فریب میدهد چون شخص تازه وارد به کشور خارجی روزی از تمامی حقوق اش با خبر میشود و در صورتیکه ملاحظات در رابطه به کج روی طرف مقابل پیدا نمائید با وی مقابل و محاسبه خواهد نمود ( البته اکثر اوقات جهت اصلاح و تنبیه شخص مقابل ) در صورت عدم اصلاح با برخورد باالمثل مواجع خواهد شد در آخرین تحلیل جدایی و طلاق واقع خواهد شد .
یک سوال از شما هم دارم در صورتیکه شما از افغانستان خانم میگیرید همشیره شما که در کشور خارجی هست با او کی ازدواج کند بالاخره ؟ یا او را هم به افغانستان می آورید ؟
خلاء های زیادی در میان ما مردم متاسفانه موجود هست و برای نسل های آینده نیز ارمغان بد ببار می آورد بهتر هست ضمیرهای خویش را اصلاح نمائیم منحیث یک مسلمان کامل زندگی کنیم انشاالله در هیچ راه زندگی ناکام نخواهیم ماند در غیر آن اگر سنتی و عرفی برخورد کنیم دامن گیر چنین مشکلات خواهیم شد ابعداً .
آرزو مند ام که از حرفهای شکسته و ریخته ام چیزی مستفید شده باشید و سبب عصبانیت تان نشده باشد.
به آرزوی روزیکه مسلمان واقعی باشیم نه تذکره یی و به امید روزیکه در هرجا مسلمانان افغانستان ازدواج کند مشکلی پدید نه آید.
وسلام
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[positivity]

so finally some good news!!
I got a call from my lawyer today asking for a copy of my hubby's valid passport sent to her via email..now to me thats weird cause i thought CIC requires original passport..has anyone been asked that?

 

[Outlandish]

so finally some good news!!
I got a call from my lawyer today asking for a copy of my hubby's valid passport sent to her via email..now to me thats weird cause i thought CIC requires original passport..has anyone been asked that?

Did you send the copy of passport with the application package when you first applied? If not, that could be why they're asking for it now

 

[yamayama]

so finally some good news!!
I got a call from my lawyer today asking for a copy of my hubby's valid passport sent to her via email..now to me thats weird cause i thought CIC requires original passport..has anyone been asked that?

Seems like your sponsorship application package was not complete you missed to copy the pages for their passport but call your lawyer and ask why they the need copy of passport for also don't mention this to your lawyer if u have missed or anything and let us know what happened.

 

[Karim11]

HI Guys,

I am glade i found this forum.

I got a letter from CIC saying my wife and my child's PR application is referred to NEW DEHLI, just to let you know that i am in Canada and and my wife and kid is in Afghanistan. so my question is:

1.Where do i send the application to? is it by mail to;

High Commission of Canada,
Immigration Section,
7/8 Shantipath, Chanakyapuri
New Delhi 110 021, India

2.Do they need the bio-metric when u send the application to them? if yes how and where in Afg-KABUL?
3.How do you send the Passport for the visa stamping, i know you cant send it visa dhl etc? is there any other mission taking care of this matter to take Afghan passports for visa stamping and bring it back. because for certain countries who Embassy is in India and not in Kabul the Indian Embassy takes passport on their behalf and send it to them to DEHLI and you get back your passport from Indian embassy ?

while in this situation i need your opinion to know how u guys sent yours?

Requesting all members to give their opinions.
Thanks
Karim

 

[yamayama]

HI Guys,

I am glade i found this forum.

I got a letter from CIC saying my wife and my child's PR application is referred to NEW DEHLI, just to let you know that i am in Canada and and my wife and kid is in Afghanistan. so my question is:

1.Where do i send the application to? is it by mail to;

High Commission of Canada,
Immigration Section,
7/8 Shantipath, Chanakyapuri
New Delhi 110 021, India

2.Do they need the bio-metric when u send the application to them? if yes how and where in Afg-KABUL?
3.How do you send the Passport for the visa stamping, i know you cant send it visa dhl etc? is there any other mission taking care of this matter to take Afghan passports for visa stamping and bring it back. because for certain countries who Embassy is in India and not in Kabul the Indian Embassy takes passport on their behalf and send it to them to DEHLI and you get back your passport from Indian embassy ?

while in this situation i need your opinion to know how u guys sent yours?

Requesting all members to give their opinions.
Thanks
Karim

As far as I know that's the correct address but still make sure you double check you can call cic centre and they should be able to help u with the correct address and for passport that's correct that u cannot Dhl passports in Afg so the best way is to take your passport to India and Dhl it from there also u will gonna have to get a pre pay dhl package and also get a mail box in dhl location and u will receive it back in 4 to 6 weeks or if you have somebody in India with proper address and trust able person you can use their address. Hope that helped.

 

[Karim11]

As far as I know that's the correct address but still make sure you double check you can call cic centre and they should be able to help u with the correct address and for passport that's correct that u cannot Dhl passports in Afg so the best way is to take your passport to India and Dhl it from there also u will gonna have to get a pre pay dhl package and also get a mail box in dhl location and u will receive it back in 4 to 6 weeks or if you have somebody in India with proper address and trust able person you can use their address. Hope that helped.

Thanks Yama for your opinion appreciate that. CIC didnt helped much all they sent to me was the website of Canadian High comm in Dehli so i had to digg my self thats why i wanna confirm with you guys who ever sent the application to New Dehli office they will be in a better position to confirm this. how ever this is abit frustrating to find out about how can my wife and kid will send the original passport to Dehli and worse thing i dont know anyone in India just for the passport all this hassle, there should be a better way.

so how about the finger prints dont they ask for that before you send the application to them?

Karim

 

[yamayama]

Thanks Yama for your opinion appreciate that. CIC didnt helped much all they sent to me was the website of Canadian High comm in Dehli so i had to digg my self thats why i wanna confirm with you guys who ever sent the application to New Dehli office they will be in a better position to confirm this. how ever this is abit frustrating to find out about how can my wife and kid will send the original passport to Dehli and worse thing i dont know anyone in India just for the passport all this hassle, there should be a better way.

so how about the finger prints dont they ask for that before you send the application to them?

Karim

Salam aliakum
Karim bro, couple days ago I received and email for remeds and on the correspondence was this address but once again keep in mind that DHL/Feedex/UPS doesn't deliver to P.O Box and as far as I know my uncle's wife was landed 3 months ago and my sister-in-law landed last year there was nothing mentioned about finger prints. When it comes up to the passport request then somebody has to take the passports to India, I know it's a big headache, you can choose somebody from Afg to there and stay there as well for couple weeks or they can drop the passport and once when it's ready they can go pick it up cause you will have the tracking number and keep checking it whenever they are ready just send someone from Afg but again somebody who u can trust. Hope this helped. Good luck!!!

High Commission of Canada
Visa Section
P.O. Box 5209
New Delhi
110021, India

 

[positivity]

Did you send the copy of passport with the application package when you first applied? If not, that could be why they're asking for it now

yea I sent the copy of the passport when i first applied which was last year..now the passport they had on file expired so that's y they asked me to resend a copy with valid passport..so we did on friday..but i'm so confused as to why they asked for the copy and not the original..because from what i gather from everyone..immigration usually asks for the original..also the request came from CIC and not NDVO.

 

[positivity]

Seems like your sponsorship application package was not complete you missed to copy the pages for their passport but call your lawyer and ask why they the need copy of passport for also don't mention this to your lawyer if u have missed or anything and let us know what happened.

my lawyer sent everything on my behalf and as I previously mentioned the copy of the passport was sent when I initially filed the sponsorship last March..

 

[masoud100]

I have a question. The sponsor is in canada and wants to sponsor his wife. His wife is afghan nationality but was born and lived her whole life in pakistan. Does her application go to london or india?

 

[yamayama]

I have a question. The sponsor is in canada and wants to sponsor his wife. His wife is afghan nationality but was born and lived her whole life in pakistan. Does her application go to london or india?

Her application will go to London cause she is born in Pakistan and I assumed that she has a Pakistani National Identity Card, same like we have tazkera or in India even though you born in Afghanistan but they will give u a rashan card. Also she will have to take her Police Clearance Certificate from Pakistan as well, so definetly it's London Office and good luck.

 

[Karim11]

Salam aliakum
Karim bro, couple days ago I received and email for remeds and on the correspondence was this address but once again keep in mind that DHL/Feedex/UPS doesn't deliver to P.O Box and as far as I know my uncle's wife was landed 3 months ago and my sister-in-law landed last year there was nothing mentioned about finger prints. When it comes up to the passport request then somebody has to take the passports to India, I know it's a big headache, you can choose somebody from Afg to there and stay there as well for couple weeks or they can drop the passport and once when it's ready they can go pick it up cause you will have the tracking number and keep checking it whenever they are ready just send someone from Afg but again somebody who u can trust. Hope this helped. Good luck!!!

High Commission of Canada
Visa Section
P.O. Box 5209
New Delhi
110021, India

Thanks Yama Bro

Appreciate it your answer is helpful. i know the DHL etc dont send package to PO Box i checked on other forums almost the same concern about the po box thingy so they normally dont put the p o box but the address as i mentioned above with the Immigration section or visa section on the top it will be delivered to them. its good to hear that no finger print bcs it would have been another headache. as of now the CIC didnt ask me to send the passport copy and other stuff but only application for PR for i know it would delay the whole process cuz they ganna ask for it anyways thats why i will send everything at one package and see what they say.

CIC is getting better since 2014 in-terms of application and waiting period everything got doubled, so how long is the waiting process from the day u send application to them?

 

[yamayama]

Thanks Yama Bro

Appreciate it your answer is helpful. i know the DHL etc dont send package to PO Box i checked on other forums almost the same concern about the po box thingy so they normally dont put the p o box but the address as i mentioned above with the Immigration section or visa section on the top it will be delivered to them. its good to hear that no finger print bcs it would have been another headache. as of now the CIC didnt ask me to send the passport copy and other stuff but only application for PR for i know it would delay the whole process cuz they ganna ask for it anyways thats why i will send everything at one package and see what they say.

CIC is getting better since 2014 in-terms of application and waiting period everything got doubled, so how long is the waiting process from the day u send application to them?

Salam Aliakum brother Karim,

It was 29 months then 32 months now NDVO is 13 month and I have applied on September 2012 and then I visit my wife in 2013 but also I have never send any additional documents and my sister applied for her husband in November 2012 and she hasn't heard anything yet either.

 

[Hope_123]

So I received a re-medical today. actually it was 1:28am last night lol

thank god, for an update. inshallah khaire after this