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AEO (Arranged Employment Opinion)

felis

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Jul 29, 2007
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Hello!
I have some questions about the AEO!
We need to get this for our application for PR.

1. Is the AEO usually for people who already work/worked for an canadian company and now apply for PR or can it be used for the application for PR altought we haven't ever been employed in Canada? Or would you then suggest to go with a LMO?

2. 1. Is it common to submit more than one joboffer or would you suggest to send only the application from the employer which I prefer?

3.What should the employer send to the HRDSC beside the written joboffer and the application?

4. And has anyone experience how long will it take to get the AEO from HRDSC?

5. Are there any application fees? Can't find informations about that!

Thank you very much for your help!
 

Libra

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Jun 8, 2007
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felis said:
Hello!
I have some questions about the AEO!
We need to get this for our application for PR.

1. Is the AEO usually for people who already work/worked for an canadian company and now apply for PR or can it be used for the application for PR altought we haven't ever been employed in Canada? Or would you then suggest to go with a LMO?

The AEO (Arranged Employment Opinion) is for applicants in the Federal Skilled Worker Program (FSW); it is a requirement by CIC if an applicant receives a job offer. The filing of the AEO to HRDSC is NOT your responsibility; it is the employer's responsibility.

Even if an FSW applicant with a work permit, was already working for a Canadian employer, that applicant would still need the Employer to file an AEO for his /her application.

The LMO (Labor Market Opinion) is different - it is not for FSW applicants. The LMO is filed by an Employer on behalf of a potential foreign worker in order to receive a work permit. Therefore, the LMO is not what you need.

However, if the employer wishes you to start the job sooner, they can always file the LMO, which is separate, on your behalf in order to receive a work permit. Even if granted a work permit plus a Temporary Resident Visa (TRV) - the work permit goes hand-in-hand with a TRV - you should NOT withdraw your immigration application. However, the employer must be willing to file the AEO separately for your immigration application.

The Work Permit and TRV are two separate applications that must be submitted to CIC - TRV allows a foreign national to enter Canada, and Work Permit allows a foreign national to work in Canada.


2. 1. Is it common to submit more than one joboffer or would you suggest to send only the application from the employer which I prefer?

You cannot just send a job offer and /or your job application to CIC. The AEO supercedes the employer's job offer.

So, the Employer must first get a positive AEO from HRSDC on your behalf.
After completing this part of the process - receiving a positive AEO - then you can submit your AEO together with a notarized copy of the Employer's offer letter for permanent employment.

You can have more than one employer file an AEO on your behalf. However, you can only send one AEO from one employer to CIC.


3.What should the employer send to the HRSDC beside the written joboffer and the application?

This is homework for the Employer. Canadian employers should be equipped with resources on such matters. However, since the AEO would be on your behalf, it doesn't hurt if you can assist the employer with this assignment.

Please check out this link with all pertinent instructions on page 1: http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/forms/emp5275e.pdf

Among other things, the employer must prove to HRSDC that they have exercised all options in filling in the job position and could not find a qualified Canadian to do the job, which must fall under level A, B, O of the NOC. The above .pdf link has another sub-link that will provide you with information on this.

Also, please be aware that there are special considerations if you are planning to work in a regulated occupation; see the following link and make sure it doesn't affect your intended job:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/aehrdcassess.shtml#ro



4. And has anyone experience how long will it take to get the AEO from HRDSC?

I haven't and so, I wouldn't be able to give you a time frame. However, there are no guaranteed time frames as HRSDC stipulates on their website: "Submitting a complete application [this is for the employer] and providing information on these factors can result in faster decisions by HRSDC."

5. Are there any application fees? Can't find informations about that!

You couldn't because there are no fees involved with the AEO process; if there was, then it would be placaded for all to see on HRSDC's AEO web pages. As you already know, this part of the world would not withold such pertinent information from us.

Only the application fees to CIC for your FSW application are required.

Canadian Law does not require that you pay any employer to obtain an AEO on your behalf.

The AEO is free.

For all other information, check this link as well:
http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/workplaceskills/foreign_workers/poarremp.shtml Read the information following the hyperlink on that page that says: "HRSDC AEO assessment criteria" as well as the other links.


Thank you very much for your help!

You're welcome!
 

felis

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Jul 29, 2007
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Thank you very much for all this detailed informations!
So I know now that the AEO would be the correct application for us but I'am concerned about this part:
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Among other things, the employer must prove to HRSDC that they have exercised all options in filling in the job position and could not find a qualified Canadian to do the job......
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I tought this would only be necessary for the LMO? I think our employer could find a Canadian if he want to but due to he don't need to hire sombody immediately and he want to support our immigration he offerd the job position to me.
Do you think this might be a problem?
 

Libra

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Jun 8, 2007
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That quote pertains to the employer having to file an LMO in the scenario where they would like you to start working while waiting for your FSW.

But if that is not the case, then it doesn't apply to you, and therefore not a problem at all.

felis said:
Thank you very much for all this detailed informations!
So I know now that the AEO would be the correct application for us but I'am concerned about this part:
----------------------------------------
Among other things, the employer must prove to HRSDC that they have exercised all options in filling in the job position and could not find a qualified Canadian to do the job......
-----------------------------------------

I tought this would only be necessary for the LMO? I think our employer could find a Canadian if he want to but due to he don't need to hire sombody immediately and he want to support our immigration he offerd the job position to me.
Do you think this might be a problem?
 

felis

Newbie
Jul 29, 2007
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Hello! Now we have talked with our "maybe" employer and he is willing to go throught this AEO-Process but he asked for help with the paperwork! So we will be in Canada in September to assist him!

And the more I think about it the more I get nervous and unsure:

Is it very difficult to get the AEO - I mean if the company fulfils all the requirements to hire a foreign worker?

I had a closer look to the application form and wonder why they don't need any detailed informations about the foreign worker (school-education, work-experience, language skills etc....)

and can anyone help me with "insider informations" - are there things which we should avoid when filling out the joboffer and lay out the written joboffer?

As I found out there is nothing more to send to the HRDSC than:
The written joboffer
the Application
and the things to proof that the company had already employees during the last year and the company exist more than one year
anything else?

It's just that it sounds so easy but.......
........... and again ......... thank you for help!
 

Libra

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Jun 8, 2007
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felis said:
Hello! Now we have talked with our "maybe" employer and he is willing to go throught this AEO-Process but he asked for help with the paperwork! So we will be in Canada in September to assist him!

And the more I think about it the more I get nervous and unsure:

Is it very difficult to get the AEO - I mean if the company fulfils all the requirements to hire a foreign worker?

To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be able to pinpoint an answer on this. It all depends on your job type and job demand - moreso, it's entirely up to the employer, to guarantee a permanent job. And this does not seem to be an issue on your end.

I had a closer look to the application form and wonder why they don't need any detailed informations about the foreign worker (school-education, work-experience, language skills etc....)

Because this would already be on your resume /curriculum vitae that you sent to the employer as part of the employer's hiring process.

and can anyone help me with "insider informations" - are there things which we should avoid when filling out the joboffer and lay out the written joboffer?

No "insider information" from my end. Your potential employer that you are working with should do some networking with other employers who have done this in order to get an idea.

As I found out there is nothing more to send to the HRDSC than:
The written joboffer
the Application
and the things to proof that the company had already employees during the last year and the company exist more than one year
anything else?

If your employer is a member of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, then they can always double check with the Chamber of Commerce to see if they can get any "heads up" on this. Usually, an institution like the Chamber of Commerce will be willing to assist businesses with unique needs.

But like you said, its seems like that is all HRSDC needs as part of the AEO application.


It's just that it sounds so easy but.......

........ It wouldn't hurt if your employer networks with other employers for such things like "insider information" and everything else. Other employers could be small businesses; not necessarily a Fortune 500 company.

........... and again ......... thank you for help!

You're welcome - I know that it will all work out just fine.
 

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Hi

I have LMP + Work permit (3years expiring in 2015), I am planning to file my PR application this month, I am wondering if my LMO+Work pemrit will be considered as AEO for assessing points or I need to obtain AEO Approval separately from HRSDC from same employer to receive AEO points benefit.


Please Advise

Thanks