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[canuck78]

You are right about off of that, but then, there are some who have become masters of playing the game.

I know one fellow, now in his 50s, who, for more than 30 years, has lived on a BC persons with disabilities pension. He's not supposed to leave BC for more than 30 days in a row. But, every year, for 6 months, he travels the world. When home, he grows and sells pot, paints houses, lots of jobs. Lives on his boat, or with a GF (women love him, for some reason). Not disabled at all, except to demonstrate that he does not do well with book learning. He laughs at us working fools.

Glad you feel like defrauding disability and the taxpayers is something to laugh at and not report as a crime.

 

[Kaibigan]

Glad you feel like defrauding disability and the taxpayers is something to laugh at and not report as a crime.

WTF makes you say that? When I learned about what this guy was doing, I told the whole story to the Ministry responsible. The first time, they did almost nothing. They called him with some questions. They asked for his passport. He stonewalled. They they not press and he never handed it over. He said "Good thing, because then I would have been in real trouble."

Two years later, I tried again. So far as I am aware, the Ministry did nothing that time.

Here, on this forum, there is no shortage of encouragement of immigration fraud. Within the last few days (I could not find the thread today), someone wrote of getting a deportation order about 5 years ago, which they ignored. They exhausted appeals, etc. Ignored more orders. Finally, they found someone here who would sponsor them as a common law spouse. So, the poster dumped her real spouse and found a marriage of convenience, which she considers will fix things. The reaction of members here? Get a good lawyer to help drag your b.s. application across the finish line. No one suggested that maybe she she should obey any of Canada's rulings.

That kind of "lawyer-up and fight Canada hammer and tong" is the usual attitude here. Most seem to think that the IRCC officers are buffoons who can and should be ignored.

As a taxpayer, I feel these things acutely. My marginal tax rate is in the high 40% range. Been many years since my income tax bill was under $100,000. Two or three years ago, it was over $500,000. My income will probably always be too high to collect OAS. You think that does not piss me off? So many spouses arrange their affairs so that they are able to collect OAS x 2. Each gets the full amount, while I get 0. They never enter "clawback" territory. That's because Canada rewards the indolent, not the diligent. We allow legions to call themselves "seasonal workers" and collect pogey year after year. No one but me sees that as fraud. They are never told to get a job (or 2 jobs together) that pay year round. Nope, just let the rest of us work hard to accommodate their laziness. Those are only 2 small examples.

I dare say that, over the years, I have reported more cheating than you have. The websites and government phone numbers that will allow cheating to be reported, all contain a message to the tune of "Do you really want to report?" That signals that even government itself considers those who report as scum and they maybe they should leave things well enough alone.

 

[rcincanada2019]

WTF makes you say that? When I learned about what this guy was doing, I told the whole story to the Ministry responsible. The first time, they did almost nothing. They called him with some questions. They asked for his passport. He stonewalled. They they not press and he never handed it over. He said "Good thing, because then I would have been in real trouble."

Two years later, I tried again. So far as I am aware, the Ministry did nothing that time.

Here, on this forum, there is no shortage of encouragement of immigration fraud. Within the last few days (I could not find the thread today), someone wrote of getting a deportation order about 5 years ago, which they ignored. They exhausted appeals, etc. Ignored more orders. Finally, they found someone here who would sponsor them as a common law spouse. So, the poster dumped her real spouse and found a marriage of convenience, which she considers will fix things. The reaction of members here? Get a good lawyer to help drag your b.s. application across the finish line. No one suggested that maybe she she should obey any of Canada's rulings.

That kind of "lawyer-up and fight Canada hammer and tong" is the usual attitude here. Most seem to think that the IRCC officers are buffoons who can and should be ignored.

As a taxpayer, I feel these things acutely. My marginal tax rate is in the high 40% range. Been many years since my income tax bill was under $100,000. Two or three years ago, it was over $500,000. My income will probably always be too high to collect OAS. You think that does not piss me off? So many spouses arrange their affairs so that they are able to collect OAS x 2. Each gets the full amount, while I get 0. They never enter "clawback" territory. That's because Canada rewards the indolent, not the diligent. We allow legions to call themselves "seasonal workers" and collect pogey year after year. No one but me sees that as fraud. They are never told to get a job (or 2 jobs together) that pay year round. Nope, just let the rest of us work hard to accommodate their laziness. Those are only 2 small examples.

I dare say that, over the years, I have reported more cheating than you have. The websites and government phone numbers that will allow cheating to be reported, all contain a message to the tune of "Do you really want to report?" That signals that even government itself considers those who report as scum and they maybe they should leave things well enough alone.

sadly, people, in their desire to be politically correct, refuses to acknowledged that the "emperor has no clothes"...

 

[Simba112]

WTF makes you say that? When I learned about what this guy was doing, I told the whole story to the Ministry responsible. The first time, they did almost nothing. They called him with some questions. They asked for his passport. He stonewalled. They they not press and he never handed it over. He said "Good thing, because then I would have been in real trouble."

Two years later, I tried again. So far as I am aware, the Ministry did nothing that time.

Here, on this forum, there is no shortage of encouragement of immigration fraud. Within the last few days (I could not find the thread today), someone wrote of getting a deportation order about 5 years ago, which they ignored. They exhausted appeals, etc. Ignored more orders. Finally, they found someone here who would sponsor them as a common law spouse. So, the poster dumped her real spouse and found a marriage of convenience, which she considers will fix things. The reaction of members here? Get a good lawyer to help drag your b.s. application across the finish line. No one suggested that maybe she she should obey any of Canada's rulings.

That kind of "lawyer-up and fight Canada hammer and tong" is the usual attitude here. Most seem to think that the IRCC officers are buffoons who can and should be ignored.

As a taxpayer, I feel these things acutely. My marginal tax rate is in the high 40% range. Been many years since my income tax bill was under $100,000. Two or three years ago, it was over $500,000. My income will probably always be too high to collect OAS. You think that does not piss me off? So many spouses arrange their affairs so that they are able to collect OAS x 2. Each gets the full amount, while I get 0. They never enter "clawback" territory. That's because Canada rewards the indolent, not the diligent. We allow legions to call themselves "seasonal workers" and collect pogey year after year. No one but me sees that as fraud. They are never told to get a job (or 2 jobs together) that pay year round. Nope, just let the rest of us work hard to accommodate their laziness. Those are only 2 small examples.

I dare say that, over the years, I have reported more cheating than you have. The websites and government phone numbers that will allow cheating to be reported, all contain a message to the tune of "Do you really want to report?" That signals that even government itself considers those who report as scum and they maybe they should leave things well enough alone.

Jeez, that was a long reply for one sentence comment...

 

[Kaibigan]

Jeez, that was a long reply for one sentence comment...

Jeez, you could try ignoring it. But, if I am to be called out as a fraud supporter, I'll say something in my defence, whether you happen to like it or not.

 

[Simba112]

Jeez, you could try ignoring it. But, if I am to be called out as a fraud supporter, I'll say something in my defence, whether you happen to like it or not.

I could but you snitched lots of them. Nice work

 

[canuck78]

WTF makes you say that? When I learned about what this guy was doing, I told the whole story to the Ministry responsible. The first time, they did almost nothing. They called him with some questions. They asked for his passport. He stonewalled. They they not press and he never handed it over. He said "Good thing, because then I would have been in real trouble."

Two years later, I tried again. So far as I am aware, the Ministry did nothing that time.

Here, on this forum, there is no shortage of encouragement of immigration fraud. Within the last few days (I could not find the thread today), someone wrote of getting a deportation order about 5 years ago, which they ignored. They exhausted appeals, etc. Ignored more orders. Finally, they found someone here who would sponsor them as a common law spouse. So, the poster dumped her real spouse and found a marriage of convenience, which she considers will fix things. The reaction of members here? Get a good lawyer to help drag your b.s. application across the finish line. No one suggested that maybe she she should obey any of Canada's rulings.

That kind of "lawyer-up and fight Canada hammer and tong" is the usual attitude here. Most seem to think that the IRCC officers are buffoons who can and should be ignored.

As a taxpayer, I feel these things acutely. My marginal tax rate is in the high 40% range. Been many years since my income tax bill was under $100,000. Two or three years ago, it was over $500,000. My income will probably always be too high to collect OAS. You think that does not piss me off? So many spouses arrange their affairs so that they are able to collect OAS x 2. Each gets the full amount, while I get 0. They never enter "clawback" territory. That's because Canada rewards the indolent, not the diligent. We allow legions to call themselves "seasonal workers" and collect pogey year after year. No one but me sees that as fraud. They are never told to get a job (or 2 jobs together) that pay year round. Nope, just let the rest of us work hard to accommodate their laziness. Those are only 2 small examples.

I dare say that, over the years, I have reported more cheating than you have. The websites and government phone numbers that will allow cheating to be reported, all contain a message to the tune of "Do you really want to report?" That signals that even government itself considers those who report as scum and they maybe they should leave things well enough alone.

Could have just mentioned that you reported the abuse in the first post versus describing in detail how someone you know is abusing the system.

 

[Kaibigan]

Must say I never expected a pick apart of my words. I feel I have nothing for which to apologize. But, I'll be much more reserved with any future posts here. Less posted, the better.

 

[canuck78]

Must say I never expected a pick apart of my words. I feel I have nothing for which to apologize. But, I'll be much more reserved with any future posts here. Less posted, the better.

I apologize but many people often describe (many would say brag) about how they or others are gaming the system on this forum. Most would not assume based on your post that it had been reported. I’m happy to see that others also report fraud. Sadly not common.