A reason for refusal

[Hello121]

In my wife's refusal letter one of the reasons stated is...

'Principal Applicant is unable to demonstrate as of this date that sponsor has done anything to prepare for her arrival in Canada despite having been married for two years.'


Can anyone tell me what I (the sponsor) was supposed to do?

She gets here, moves in with me, goes to school and works part-time. What was I missing? Thanks.

 

[mikeymyke]

Did you explain to CIC what your plans are for when she comes here? What your job and salary is? What she plans to take for school or do for a job? Where you and her will be living?

For myself, I wrote a lengthy cover letter, describing why our relationship is genuine, why it wasn't done for gaining status, and in that letter, I also wrote what our plans are for Canada in detail, and also wrote what our plans are should the application fail (Plan B = live in Vietnam). Those plans included where we live, what our jobs will be, whether buy or rent a house, living with parents or not, etc etc.

 

[zardoz]

In my wife's refusal letter one of the reasons stated is...

'Principal Applicant is unable to demonstrate as of this date that sponsor has done anything to prepare for her arrival in Canada despite having been married for two years.'


Can anyone tell me what I (the sponsor) was supposed to do?

She gets here, moves in with me, goes to school and works part-time. What was I missing? Thanks.

In isolation, that reason is of limited help. You would have to publish the rest of the reasons.
My instinct is that the visa officer has suspected a "Marriage of Convenience".

 

[Gumper]

In my wife's refusal letter one of the reasons stated is...

'Principal Applicant is unable to demonstrate as of this date that sponsor has done anything to prepare for her arrival in Canada despite having been married for two years.' Can anyone tell me what I (the sponsor) was supposed to do? She gets here, moves in with me, goes to school and works part-time. What was I missing? Thanks.

Wow that does seem pretty harsh. Did they summon your wife for an interview, since it states that the applicant hasn't demonstrated proof of your intentions together? I was also fairly pithy about our plans, i.e. once approved my wife will join me, hopefully pursue a career similar to what she currently does, etc. She does have a degree & job experience, so hopefully that will help, but nothing can be known 100% until she hits the ground.

 

[Harju]

It seems to me there was a similar post a few months ago. Additional information on the plans to move to Canada was requested as the VO felt that, although the relationship was geniune, the spouse was not really interested in establishing a life in Canada but was getting PR for the convenience of travelling to Canada and as a safety net for the future. I think the applicant had a successful business or career and had not demonstrated any plans to change those and establish themselves in Canada.

I agree with Mikeymyke, they are looking for a plan and any demonstrable proof that the plan is being acted upon (contacting prospective employers, schools etc.). This could include emails between the spouses discussing the logistics of the move to Canada, leaving her old job, moving in, job searchs, what schools to go to etc.

 

[keesio]

I agree with Mikeymyke, they are looking for a plan and any demonstrable proof that the plan is being acted upon (contacting prospective employers, schools etc.). This could include emails between the spouses discussing the logistics of the move to Canada, leaving her old job, moving in, job searchs, what schools to go to etc.

My wife didn't provide anything of the sort. In her initial application she stated that she plans on getting licensed in Ontario to work in the health care industry as she did in New York. And that was pretty much it. No other plans or proof was offered. I didn't realize they expect to see tangible proof like that...

 

[SenoritaBella]

Are these plans required for sponsors who are living abroad and need to show intent to live in Canada?

 

[keesio]

Are these plans required for sponsors who are living abroad and need to show intent to live in Canada?

For sponsors abroad, yes they want to see some concrete plan of moving back to Canada and support oneself (and the applicant). But the OP is sponsoring outland.

 

[mikeymyke]

I just realized something, the OP had interview on October 2012, and then was refused a month later. I know that for sponsors living in Canada, they don't have to show tons of proof as to how to prepare for their spouse's arrival, but I think what happened was his wife had an interview, the officer asked his wife about what she plans to do when she goes to Canada, and maybe the wife gave a really vague response, or couldn't provide a good answer.

Also looking at the other posts, VO states they haven't demonstrated ongoing communication, and the OP indicates that "not preparing for wife's arrival" was just ONE of the reasons for refusal, I think maybe there's more to this case.

But I'm pretty happy the OP seems to take the refusal pretty well, even jokes about the whole thing, and has Plan B to live in Cambodia (which by the way, is one of the poorest nations in Asia) with his wife if the PR doesn't go through, thumbs up to him.

 

[truesmile]

My wife didn't provide anything of the sort. In her initial application she stated that she plans on getting licensed in Ontario to work in the health care industry as she did in New York. And that was pretty much it. No other plans or proof was offered. I didn't realize they expect to see tangible proof like that...

Granted . . . but I suspect an application from your VO as compared to one from Singapore unfortunately is a completely different experience. Notwithstanding the consensus there's more to this one than being alluded to.

 

[dozel]

In my wife's refusal letter one of the reasons stated is...

'Principal Applicant is unable to demonstrate as of this date that sponsor has done anything to prepare for her arrival in Canada despite having been married for two years.'


Can anyone tell me what I (the sponsor) was supposed to do?

She gets here, moves in with me, goes to school and works part-time. What was I missing? Thanks.

It's your wife's refusal or your sponsorship(the 1st stage) refusal? If it's your sponsorship refusal, you may need to demonstrate your financial status that is sufficient to support your wife for 3 years.

 

[ovasquez1]

Did you explain to CIC what your plans are for when she comes here? What your job and salary is? What she plans to take for school or do for a job? Where you and her will be living?

For myself, I wrote a lengthy cover letter, describing why our relationship is genuine, why it wasn't done for gaining status, and in that letter, I also wrote what our plans are for Canada in detail, and also wrote what our plans are should the application fail (Plan B = live in Vietnam). Those plans included where we live, what our jobs will be, whether buy or rent a house, living with parents or not, etc etc.

so is it recommended to mention our plans for Canada, and what are plan is if the application fails???? for instance in my case, my husband is Canadian and I am from the US, should we mention what are our plans (living, career, etc.) ? in what part of the application should we write about it?

 

[keesio]

so is it recommended to mention our plans for Canada, and what are plan is if the application fails???? for instance in my case, my husband is Canadian and I am from the US, should we mention what are our plans (living, career, etc.) ? in what part of the application should we write about it?

As truesmile alluded to, I'm sure certain visa offices get a bit more scrutiny than others. I didn't provide any such information. But overall it seems Canadian-US couples without any red flags get less scrutiny. So unless your application has some red flags, you can probably leave it alone

 

[ovasquez1]

As truesmile alluded to, I'm sure certain visa offices get a bit more scrutiny than others. I didn't provide any such information. But overall it seems Canadian-US couples without any red flags get less scrutiny. So unless your application has some red flags, you can probably leave it alone

Thanks for replying, we have one red flag ( I think...I have mention before) he hasn't met my family in person, only over the phone, facebook, ect. I will add it, for my own peace of mind I think. Thanks again.