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am84pm

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Hi,

I would like to share some useful information regarding choosing your level of studies.

I am going to categorize these level from lower to higher.
  • Foundation
  • Diploma
  • Bachelor Degree/ (BBA Bachelor of Business Administration in also in this category)
  • PGDM(Postgraduate Diploma)
  • MSc/ Master Degree/ (MBA,Master of Business Administration is also in this category)
  • M.Phil (Master of Philosophy)
  • **Ph.D or D.Phil (Doctor of Philosophy)/ DBA(Doctor of Business Administration is also in this category)
  • **D.Eng (Doctor of Engineering)

** Ph.D and D.Eng are both in the same level but with a bit of differences. D.Eng has more courses base comparing to Ph.D.

Okay now as you can see I've listed all from lower to higher level. Indeed, the main purpose of posting this thread is to share how is that possible to choose a suitable course and level of study for yourself in one hand and in the other hand whether A respected VO would accept this course based on your previous studies or not!

Once again, this is only my personal finding and I would like ONLY to share with you guys. You may have use other available sources.

For instance, if you did your bachelor degree you may apply for Those level after bachelor degree such as (MSc, Master degree or M.Phil). IT IS NOT ADVISABLE to apply for diploma!

Another example which I've been facing a lot in this forum is specially for those students who has already passed their MSc or Master degree and they want to apply for PGDM (POST GRADUATE DIPLOMA). Friends, just for your information, when a student go for MSc or Master degree in the end of studies, if there is no thesis, they are going to get something like ranking in their level. I expand this a bit. If your Maximum possible mark in the end is over 100,(Each University/College has a different scoring and all not the same)!, in some Universities if you get 85 to 100 you are passed with distinction, if 70 to 84 passed with merit, if 55 to 69 you are just passed only, HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT, if you get below 55 you will get a certificate of PGDM(Post Graduate Diploma) and not anymore Master degree because of your very low performance.

Now why I give you this example is why when you have master degree already you apply again for PGDM which is 1 level lower than masters? It really brings down your chances of getting your Student Visa Permit if respected VO looks for something to reject your case! I know there are cases but common guys, think proper and put yourself in VO's shoes, why someone waste his/her money AGAIN and want to do something similar with lower level??

I really hope this thread helps and give you some lights and make your mind clear cut about this matter. I look forward hearing from you guys.
All the best
 

newbeGirl

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am84pm said:
Hi,

I would like to share some useful information regarding choosing your level of studies.

I am going to categorize these level from lower to higher.
  • Foundation
  • Diploma
  • Bachelor Degree/ (BBA Bachelor of Business Administration in also in this category)
  • PGDM(Postgraduate Diploma)
  • MSc/ Master Degree/ (MBA,Master of Business Administration is also in this category)
  • M.Phil (Master of Philosophy)
  • **Ph.D or D.Phil (Doctor of Philosophy)/ DBA(Doctor of Business Administration is also in this category)
  • **D.Eng (Doctor of Engineering)

** Ph.D and D.Eng are both in the same level but with a bit of differences. D.Eng has more courses base comparing to Ph.D.

Okay now as you can see I've listed all from lower to higher level. Indeed, the main purpose of posting this thread is to share how is that possible to choose a suitable course and level of study for yourself in one hand and in the other hand whether A respected VO would accept this course based on your previous studies or not!

Once again, this is only my personal finding and I would like ONLY to share with you guys. You may have use other available sources.

For instance, if you did your bachelor degree you may apply for Those level after bachelor degree such as (MSc, Master degree or M.Phil). IT IS NOT ADVISABLE to apply for diploma!

Another example which I've been facing a lot in this forum is specially for those students who has already passed their MSc or Master degree and they want to apply for PGDM (POST GRADUATE DIPLOMA). Friends, just for your information, when a student go for MSc or Master degree in the end of studies, if there is no thesis, they are going to get something like ranking in their level. I expand this a bit. If your Maximum possible mark in the end is over 100,(Each University/College has a different scoring and all not the same)!, in some Universities if you get 85 to 100 you are passed with distinction, if 70 to 84 passed with merit, if 55 to 69 you are just passed only, HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT, if you get below 55 you will get a certificate of PGDM(Post Graduate Diploma) and not anymore Master degree because of your very low performance.

Now why I give you this example is why when you have master degree already you apply again for PGDM which is 1 level lower than masters? It really brings down your chances of getting your Student Visa Permit if respected VO looks for something to reject your case! I know there are cases but common guys, think proper and put yourself in VO's shoes, why someone waste his/her money AGAIN and want to do something similar with lower level??

I really hope this thread helps and give you some lights and make your mind clear cut about this matter. I look forward hearing from you guys.
All the best
This really good for me. I finished my diploma last year.can i go for bachelor?
 

nevillek

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Apr 25, 2011
731
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Visa Office......
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Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
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Med's Done....
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Interview........
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VISA ISSUED...
05-07-2013
LANDED..........
23-08-2013
Two things I would like to point out:

1) What about Masters degree holders of a country who want to go for further studies in Canada? Is MPhil+ the only option for them? Or they can go for another Masters?

2) In some countries like India, a Bachelors degree (besides Engg. and some others) is only 15 years of formal education whereas one needs 16 years of formal education (or 4 yrs Bach degree) to study a Masters in Canada. For example, I have done my 3 yr B.Com. and then went on to do a 2 yr M.Com. because without that I would be ineligible to apply to many programs in Canada. Moreover, the M.Com. isn't even very valuable because it's just a distance education degree, but yes, it fulfils the "16 years requirement". Does that mean I cannot go for a Masters in Canada anymore?
 

enfield

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Hi,


am84pm said:
Hi,

I would like to share some useful information regarding choosing your level of studies.

I am going to categorize these level from lower to higher.
  • Foundation
  • Diploma
  • Bachelor Degree/ (BBA Bachelor of Business Administration in also in this category)
  • PGDM(Postgraduate Diploma)
  • MSc/ Master Degree/ (MBA,Master of Business Administration is also in this category)
  • M.Phil (Master of Philosophy)
  • **Ph.D or D.Phil (Doctor of Philosophy)/ DBA(Doctor of Business Administration is also in this category)
  • **D.Eng (Doctor of Engineering)

** Ph.D and D.Eng are both in the same level but with a bit of differences. D.Eng has more courses base comparing to Ph.D.

Okay now as you can see I've listed all from lower to higher level. Indeed, the main purpose of posting this thread is to share how is that possible to choose a suitable course and level of study for yourself in one hand and in the other hand whether A respected VO would accept this course based on your previous studies or not!

Once again, this is only my personal finding and I would like ONLY to share with you guys. You may have use other available sources.

For instance, if you did your bachelor degree you may apply for Those level after bachelor degree such as (MSc, Master degree or M.Phil). IT IS NOT ADVISABLE to apply for diploma!

Another example which I've been facing a lot in this forum is specially for those students who has already passed their MSc or Master degree and they want to apply for PGDM (POST GRADUATE DIPLOMA). Friends, just for your information, when a student go for MSc or Master degree in the end of studies, if there is no thesis, they are going to get something like ranking in their level. I expand this a bit. If your Maximum possible mark in the end is over 100,(Each University/College has a different scoring and all not the same)!, in some Universities if you get 85 to 100 you are passed with distinction, if 70 to 84 passed with merit, if 55 to 69 you are just passed only, HERE IS VERY IMPORTANT, if you get below 55 you will get a certificate of PGDM(Post Graduate Diploma) and not anymore Master degree because of your very low performance.

Now why I give you this example is why when you have master degree already you apply again for PGDM which is 1 level lower than masters? It really brings down your chances of getting your Student Visa Permit if respected VO looks for something to reject your case! I know there are cases but common guys, think proper and put yourself in VO's shoes, why someone waste his/her money AGAIN and want to do something similar with lower level??

I really hope this thread helps and give you some lights and make your mind clear cut about this matter. I look forward hearing from you guys.
All the best

1. It's a totally wrong/misleading post.


2. List of selected members who were Master's degree holder and approved for PG Diploma/Certificate courses in Canada;

a. Lovely_16 (member) /Previous Education: MCS from India (Master degree)/visa approved for PG Certificate in Games Development.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/with-the-blessings-of-waheguruji-got-my-visa-today-t91291.0.html;msg1174644#msg1174644

b. sandhujas /Previous Education: MBA from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (GBM/Humber)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/those-who-r-applying-for-humber-collegeglobal-business-management-jan-2012-t78913.0.html;msg1120847#msg1120847

c. Nish555 /Previous Education: MSc from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (GBM/Humber)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/got-study-and-opw-permit-yayyyyeeee-t127036.0.html;msg1927946#msg1927946
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t119374.0.html

d. harmandeep_86 /Previous Education: M.Tech from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t124969.0.html

e. ad singh /Previous Education: M.Com from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (TRU)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/what-is-your-opinion-on-my-visa-chances-t86957.0.html;msg1081378#msg1081378
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/whats-next-i-got-the-visa-t88360.0.html;msg1109570#msg1109570



May be it's a time for you to stop giving opinions without any fact/proof.
 

scylla

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Jun 8, 2010
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nevillek

Hero Member
Apr 25, 2011
731
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Visa Office......
New Delhi
Job Offer........
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App. Filed.......
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IELTS Request
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Med's Done....
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VISA ISSUED...
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Enfield, is there a possibility that the above 5 cases are just exceptions? Do you have a list of Masters holders who got REJECTED for PGDM courses as well?
 

kiranreddy3399

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15-04-2013
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LANDED..........
03-01-2014
enfield said:
Hi,



1. It's a totally wrong/misleading post.


2. List of selected members who were Master's degree holder and approved for PG Diploma/Certificate courses in Canada;

a. Lovely_16 (member) /Previous Education: MCS from India (Master degree)/visa approved for PG Certificate in Games Development.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/with-the-blessings-of-waheguruji-got-my-visa-today-t91291.0.html;msg1174644#msg1174644

b. sandhujas /Previous Education: MBA from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (GBM/Humber)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/those-who-r-applying-for-humber-collegeglobal-business-management-jan-2012-t78913.0.html;msg1120847#msg1120847

c. Nish555 /Previous Education: MSc from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (GBM/Humber)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/got-study-and-opw-permit-yayyyyeeee-t127036.0.html;msg1927946#msg1927946
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t119374.0.html

d. harmandeep_86 /Previous Education: M.Tech from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t124969.0.html

e. ad singh /Previous Education: M.Com from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (TRU)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/what-is-your-opinion-on-my-visa-chances-t86957.0.html;msg1081378#msg1081378
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/whats-next-i-got-the-visa-t88360.0.html;msg1109570#msg1109570



May be it's a time for you to stop giving opinions without any fact/proof.
Agreed... Stop giving wrong info dude... Wake up your ideaology and do some research before posting something like this..
 

kiranreddy3399

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03-06-2013
LANDED..........
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nevillek said:
Enfield, is there a possibility that the above 5 cases are just exceptions? Do you have a list of Masters holders who got REJECTED for PGDM courses as well?
Dude.. Its totally depends on VO.. Whether he wanna give a study permit or not..
 

nevillek

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Interview........
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VISA ISSUED...
05-07-2013
LANDED..........
23-08-2013
kiranreddy3399 said:
Dude.. Its totally depends on VO.. Whether he wanna give a study permit or not..
Exactly.. and VOs are not so intelligent in all this so a Masters grad applying for PGDM can look fishy to them.. it's a gamble in my opinion..
 

kiranreddy3399

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nevillek said:
Exactly.. and VOs are not so intelligent in all this so a Masters grad applying for PGDM can look fishy to them.. it's a gamble in my opinion..
There are pros and cons..depends on VO.. I even agree..
 

am84pm

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enfield said:
Hi,



1. It's a totally wrong/misleading post.


2. List of selected members who were Master's degree holder and approved for PG Diploma/Certificate courses in Canada;

a. Lovely_16 (member) /Previous Education: MCS from India (Master degree)/visa approved for PG Certificate in Games Development.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/with-the-blessings-of-waheguruji-got-my-visa-today-t91291.0.html;msg1174644#msg1174644

b. sandhujas /Previous Education: MBA from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (GBM/Humber)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/those-who-r-applying-for-humber-collegeglobal-business-management-jan-2012-t78913.0.html;msg1120847#msg1120847

c. Nish555 /Previous Education: MSc from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (GBM/Humber)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/got-study-and-opw-permit-yayyyyeeee-t127036.0.html;msg1927946#msg1927946
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t119374.0.html

d. harmandeep_86 /Previous Education: M.Tech from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma.
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t124969.0.html

e. ad singh /Previous Education: M.Com from India (Master Degree)/visa approved for PG Diploma (TRU)
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/what-is-your-opinion-on-my-visa-chances-t86957.0.html;msg1081378#msg1081378
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/whats-next-i-got-the-visa-t88360.0.html;msg1109570#msg1109570



May be it's a time for you to stop giving opinions without any fact/proof.
If you read the post carefully, it is stated that there are cases but... ! this means there are people who are able to get their visa. Thank you for your commend.
 

am84pm

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newbeGirl said:
This really good for me. I finished my diploma last year.can i go for bachelor?
Absolutely, you can apply for that.
 

am84pm

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kiranreddy3399 said:
Agreed... Stop giving wrong info dude... Wake up your ideaology and do some research before posting something like this..
I'm finishing my post doctorate studies in Robotics so I've done some research before posting :). Thanks for your comment.
 

am84pm

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nevillek said:
Enfield, is there a possibility that the above 5 cases are just exceptions? Do you have a list of Masters holders who got REJECTED for PGDM courses as well?
That is why I already mentioned in the post, there are cases that approved but.. . My point is don't always think positive. See people who got rejection and are looking for their rejection reason. Thanks for your comment.