427 Ignorance is bliss,not really!!!

[prcareersuccess]

Wow,until I came across this forum I did not realise how ignorant I was.

I have a CRS score of 427 with my IELTS score being L 8.5, R 8, W 7, and S 8 with the overall 8. I am a 31 year divorced female with an IT experience of 5 years.

Most of them kept saying the IELTS score is good enough to help your profile to picked up for invitation. However, after reading some of the comments where people are still writing IELTS inspite of having scores similar to mine and CRS of 430s, I feel so foolish for being ignorant so far. I know I should be seeking immigration help but since many here are more experienced hoping you'll guide me as to how can I improve my CRS score and thus my chances for invitation.

Is going for PNP the only way?

Kindly let me know.

Thanks and regards!

 

[crescent_jam]

Wow,until I came across this forum I did not realise how ignorant I was.

I have a CRS score of 427 with my IELTS score being L 8.5, R 8, W 7, and S 8 with the overall 8. I am a 31 year divorced female with an IT experience of 5 years.

Most of them kept saying the IELTS score is good enough to help your profile to picked up for invitation. However, after reading some of the comments where people are still writing IELTS inspite of having scores similar to mine and CRS of 430s, I feel so foolish for being ignorant so far. I know I should be seeking immigration help but since many here are more experienced hoping you'll guide me as to how can I improve my CRS score and thus my chances for invitation.

Is going for PNP the only way?

Kindly let me know.

Thanks and regards!

Hi prcareesuccess,
Welcome aboard!

This forum is a wonderful resource and persons here are always willing to help if you ask. Make sure you read through as many threads on the forum though (especially the 'Stickies') or search for topics before posting a question and opening a new thread.

In the meantime, regarding improving your CRS Score, outside of pursuing a provincial nomination: a score 427 is not bad, but a few points more will certainly aid your campaign. The reason persons are still writing IELTS, is because improving your IELTS Scores is usually the easiest way to raise your CRS significantly, but based on your current scores, even if you re-take the test to obtain CLB Level 10 for your writing score, I believe it will only give you 3 more points (I should know; I was in the same position as you - CLB Level 10 for R, L, S, and CLB Level 9 for W - although losing those 3 points when I'm a native English speaking was still painful; stupid CELPIP - LOL).

However, if you tell us a bit about your profile, perhaps some of the persons on this forum can come up with other ways for you to increase your score. What's your current educational level? Is going to Canada to pursue additional educational credentials an option for you? Do you know French, or is learning French an option so you can get additional points by sitting TEF? Do you have connections in Canada (or are you already in Canada) so you could potentially try to arrange employment?

 

[prcareersuccess]

Hi prcareesuccess,
Welcome aboard!

This forum is a wonderful resource and persons here are always willing to help if you ask. Make sure you read through as many threads on the forum though (especially the 'Stickies') or search for topics before posting a question and opening a new thread.

In the meantime, regarding improving your CRS Score, outside of pursuing a provincial nomination: a score 427 is not bad, but a few points more will certainly aid your campaign. The reason persons are still writing IELTS, is because improving your IELTS Scores is usually the easiest way to raise your CRS significantly, but based on your current scores, even if you re-take the test to obtain CLB Level 10 for your writing score, I believe it will only give you 3 more points (I should know; I was in the same position as you - CLB Level 10 for R, L, S, and CLB Level 9 for W - although losing those 3 points when I'm a native English speaking was still painful; stupid CELPIP - LOL).

However, if you tell us a bit about your profile, perhaps some of the persons on this forum can come up with other ways for you to increase your score. What's your current educational level? Is going to Canada to pursue additional educational credentials an option for you? Do you know French, or is learning French an option so you can get additional points by sitting TEF? Do you have connections in Canada (or are you already in Canada) so you could potentially try to arrange employment?

Crescent_jam, thank you for the response. You know how psychology works when you need answers for your particular scenario and when there is too much of information,you just need some positivity,which was why I started a thread than perusing them which I'll definitely go through soon but time being the constraint, I don't want to lose up on opportunities in the meanwhile

I finished my Bachelor's degree in Information technology in 2008. I have a graduate certificate from University of Sydney. I have 5 years of experience as a software developer. I am not in Canada. Studying in Canada can be an option but financially might not be one. TEF, is it to French as IELTS is for English? If so then wouldn't it be a difficult task to master it?

Please let me know what more information about me would help. I am aware and am grateful that I can bank on the people on the forum for assistance.

Hoping to hear back.

Thanks and regards!

 

[DEEPCUR]

Honestly, there is no easy option for you to improve your scores as you are already having the maximum. TEF is not practical.. I am not saying, it is not possible, but it would take 1-2 years to get to the level of 6+ if you start from scratch. Master degree is a long shot too.. you will lost points for age + $$.

You could wait till first or second quarter of next year. The scores might drop to your cutoff level as they give more ITAs with fresh quota of the year.

Otherwise you could pursue PNP.. OINP is a a good option as Toronto has most jobs. Rest you can if you really don't have any other way. Atlantic provinces and SK don't have much white collar jobs, and it might be real struggle to establish yourself if you have necessity to stick to the PNP provided province.

 

[crescent_jam]

Crescent_jam, thank you for the response. You know how psychology works when you need answers for your particular scenario and when there is too much of information,you just need some positivity,which was why I started a thread than perusing them which I'll definitely go through soon but time being the constraint, I don't want to lose up on opportunities in the meanwhile

I finished my Bachelor's degree in Information technology in 2008. I have a graduate certificate from University of Sydney. I have 5 years of experience as a software developer. I am not in Canada. Studying in Canada can be an option but financially might not be one. TEF, is it to French as IELTS is for English? If so then wouldn't it be a difficult task to master it?

Please let me know what more information about me would help. I am aware and am grateful that I can bank on the people on the forum for assistance.

Hoping to hear back.

Thanks and regards!

I agree with DEEPCUR; because you've already almost maxed out your IELTS, it will be harder for you than others to increase your score, and the feasibility of learning French, from scratch, well enough to get decent enough scores on the TEF (the IELTS for French) is low.

You mentioned that studying in Canada might be difficult financially, but are you speaking from the perspective of pursuing a Master's? A common strategy in my country is for persons with a 'decent-but-not-quite-high-enough' score to go to Canada and pursue a 1-year post-secondary diploma course relevant to their field (which is cheaper than a Master's but still allows them to develop professionally), and then to claim the additional 15 points that are awarded for having a post-secondary qualification from Canada. If those 15 points still aren't enough; they then try to get the post-graduate work permit (PGWP) and secure suitable employment in Canada for a year, so they can then claim additional CRS points for having 1 year of Canadian work experience... keep in mind though that, unless you were able to get another work permit after the PGWP expires or some other permit/visa that keeps your status legal in Canada, you would need to leave Canada again at that point before applying for PR...

But the provincial nomination programmes are also a good option if you're a software developer. A lot of PNP programmes appear to favor IT professionals; you just need to look into some of them...

 

[clguy]

I agree with DEEPCUR; because you've already almost maxed out your IELTS, it will be harder for you than others to increase your score, and the feasibility of learning French, from scratch, well enough to get decent enough scores on the TEF (the IELTS for French) is low.

You mentioned that studying in Canada might be difficult financially, but are you speaking from the perspective of pursuing a Master's? A common strategy in my country is for persons with a 'decent-but-not-quite-high-enough' score to go to Canada and pursue a 1-year post-secondary diploma course relevant to their field (which is cheaper than a Master's but still allows them to develop professionally), and then to claim the additional 15 points that are awarded for having a post-secondary qualification from Canada. If those 15 points still aren't enough; they then try to get the post-graduate work permit (PGWP) and secure suitable employment in Canada for a year, so they can then claim additional CRS points for having 1 year of Canadian work experience... keep in mind though that, unless you were able to get another work permit after the PGWP expires or some other permit/visa that keeps your status legal in Canada, you would need to leave Canada again at that point before applying for PR...

But the provincial nomination programmes are also a good option if you're a software developer. A lot of PNP programmes appear to favor IT professionals; you just need to look into some of them...

Crescent_Jam, when you submitted your application to CIC did you send your transcripts in to them as well? Or did you only send your ECA? I am using a consultant and they are requiring transcripts. The transcript in question is the transcript from my bachelors degree which I did not get any points for as I have a masters degree. Any help given will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

 

[manboarpig]

The lowest invited score should decrease in the months leading up to May and June. FWIW, we can speculate that it's the longest stretch without university students graduating. After that, there's spring, summer and winter graduation, with applicants who have higher scores which keeps the draw minimum up. This year's low was ~415. This June applicants with siblings could claim points. More people with more points than last year.
A birthday may cause the crs profile score to go down by a point or two if it happens before a draw. Therefore it's worth checking out PNP options. Good luck.

 

[crescent_jam]

Crescent_Jam, when you submitted your application to CIC did you send your transcripts in to them as well? Or did you only send your ECA? I am using a consultant and they are requiring transcripts. The transcript in question is the transcript from my bachelors degree which I did not get any points for as I have a masters degree. Any help given will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Hey clguy,
I just responded to you by private message.

 

[hamgha]

I agree with DEEPCUR; because you've already almost maxed out your IELTS, it will be harder for you than others to increase your score, and the feasibility of learning French, from scratch, well enough to get decent enough scores on the TEF (the IELTS for French) is low.

You mentioned that studying in Canada might be difficult financially, but are you speaking from the perspective of pursuing a Master's? A common strategy in my country is for persons with a 'decent-but-not-quite-high-enough' score to go to Canada and pursue a 1-year post-secondary diploma course relevant to their field (which is cheaper than a Master's but still allows them to develop professionally), and then to claim the additional 15 points that are awarded for having a post-secondary qualification from Canada. If those 15 points still aren't enough; they then try to get the post-graduate work permit (PGWP) and secure suitable employment in Canada for a year, so they can then claim additional CRS points for having 1 year of Canadian work experience... keep in mind though that, unless you were able to get another work permit after the PGWP expires or some other permit/visa that keeps your status legal in Canada, you would need to leave Canada again at that point before applying for PR...

But the provincial nomination programmes are also a good option if you're a software developer. A lot of PNP programmes appear to favor IT professionals; you just need to look into some of them...

Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP doesn't have CLB 9 no? He needs at least a 7.5 on writing to get it.

Wow,until I came across this forum I did not realise how ignorant I was.

I have a CRS score of 427 with my IELTS score being L 8.5, R 8, W 7, and S 8 with the overall 8. I am a 31 year divorced female with an IT experience of 5 years.

Most of them kept saying the IELTS score is good enough to help your profile to picked up for invitation. However, after reading some of the comments where people are still writing IELTS inspite of having scores similar to mine and CRS of 430s, I feel so foolish for being ignorant so far. I know I should be seeking immigration help but since many here are more experienced hoping you'll guide me as to how can I improve my CRS score and thus my chances for invitation.

Is going for PNP the only way?

Kindly let me know.

Thanks and regards!

Do you have the transferability points maxed out?

for example this is what i have and why i hit the 470s

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education 50 Help - CRS - Skill Transferability - Education
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience 50

 

[crescent_jam]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP doesn't have CLB 9 no? He needs at least a 7.5 on writing to get it.



Do you have the transferability points maxed out?

for example this is what i have and why i hit the 470s

CRS - Skill Transferability - Education 50 Help - CRS - Skill Transferability - Education
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience 50

When I checked the conversion table, it says a 7 in IELTS writing is CLB 9... maybe I read it wrong though...

 

[hamgha]

When I checked the conversion table, it says a 7 in IELTS writing is CLB 9...

yeah just double checked. it's weird because i remember when i was filling the ee profile, for writing it had 7 then a field for 7.5-9 which i assumed to mean more points

 

[crescent_jam]

yeah just double checked. it's weird because i remember when i was filling the ee profile, for writing it had 7 then a field for 7.5-9 which i assumed to mean more points

Yeah I just realized there are more than one conversion table on IRCC's website and the second one I found is a little confusing. I've always used this one though... http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/language/charts.asp

 

[prcareersuccess]

Honestly, there is no easy option for you to improve your scores as you are already having the maximum. TEF is not practical.. I am not saying, it is not possible, but it would take 1-2 years to get to the level of 6+ if you start from scratch. Master degree is a long shot too.. you will lost points for age + $$.

You could wait till first or second quarter of next year. The scores might drop to your cutoff level as they give more ITAs with fresh quota of the year.

Otherwise you could pursue PNP.. OINP is a a good option as Toronto has most jobs. Rest you can if you really don't have any other way. Atlantic provinces and SK don't have much white collar jobs, and it might be real struggle to establish yourself if you have necessity to stick to the PNP provided province.

Thank you DEEPCUR for the inputs. Will reflect on these

 

[prcareersuccess]

I agree with DEEPCUR; because you've already almost maxed out your IELTS, it will be harder for you than others to increase your score, and the feasibility of learning French, from scratch, well enough to get decent enough scores on the TEF (the IELTS for French) is low.

You mentioned that studying in Canada might be difficult financially, but are you speaking from the perspective of pursuing a Master's? A common strategy in my country is for persons with a 'decent-but-not-quite-high-enough' score to go to Canada and pursue a 1-year post-secondary diploma course relevant to their field (which is cheaper than a Master's but still allows them to develop professionally), and then to claim the additional 15 points that are awarded for having a post-secondary qualification from Canada. If those 15 points still aren't enough; they then try to get the post-graduate work permit (PGWP) and secure suitable employment in Canada for a year, so they can then claim additional CRS points for having 1 year of Canadian work experience... keep in mind though that, unless you were able to get another work permit after the PGWP expires or some other permit/visa that keeps your status legal in Canada, you would need to leave Canada again at that point before applying for PR...

But the provincial nomination programmes are also a good option if you're a software developer. A lot of PNP programmes appear to favor IT professionals; you just need to look into some of them...

Thank you crescent_jam for the well thought out remarks. I will definitely look into these Happy migration to you!

 

[prcareersuccess]

The lowest invited score should decrease in the months leading up to May and June. FWIW, we can speculate that it's the longest stretch without university students graduating. After that, there's spring, summer and winter graduation, with applicants who have higher scores which keeps the draw minimum up. This year's low was ~415. This June applicants with siblings could claim points. More people with more points than last year.
A birthday may cause the crs profile score to go down by a point or two if it happens before a draw. Therefore it's worth checking out PNP options. Good luck.

Thank you maboarpig. PNP seems like the ONLY option as of now. However, I am so confused about how the PNP works. I am told that I need to apply in the short window that the PNP opens and the competition for that is too high and it is FCFS