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fatani said:
Why are you jealous of the next in line people coming in Canada needs immigration that is even said by the immigration minister. Even the agencies said that in next 5 yrs the target should get increased to 450K. If you dont like this system or do you have any fears so leave canada.

And for your information UK closed immigration because they were getting over populated and show me the proof that "AUSTRALIA HAS CLOSED THE DOOR". Australia immigration is still open with same rules and anyone can easily apply for it.
I think you've misunderstood. I don't live in Canada at the moment. I used to and I am currently in the EE application process myself but I don't live there at this moment in time and haven't for several years now. As long as the current situation is indeed sustainable then there's no problem as far as I'm concerned.

With regards to Australia and New Zealand:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-19/new-zealand-tightens-immigration-rules-in-kiwi-first-crackdown/8453562

http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/punjabi/en/article/2017/04/19/want-migrate-australia-new-occupation-list-replaces-sol-skilled-occupation-list
 

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I'm afraid I have to disagree with that one.
What to you defines overpopulation? California in the US may be a bit heavily populated, but California alone has almost 40 million. Uk is about 65 total.
 

Bloodrose

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Mthornt said:
What to you defines overpopulation? California in the US may be a bit heavily populated, but California alone has almost 40 million. Uk is about 65 total.
And California is twice the size of the United Kingdom.

A lot of the UK's overpopulation problems are due to its own infrastructural mistakes. London should look something like Tokyo or Singapore by now, with huge apartment buildings and skyscrapers everywhere but it doesn't. Most of London's population live in old Victorian houses and hence a lot of land is wasted. To a lesser degree, the same applies to many of the UK's other urban centres e.g. Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh etc. Those are fixable problems for sure but they really need to be fixed before Britain's population further expands.
 

fatani

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Bloodrose said:
I think you've misunderstood. I don't live in Canada at the moment. I used to and I am currently in the EE application process myself but I don't live there at this moment in time and haven't for several years now. As long as the current situation is indeed sustainable then there's no problem as far as I'm concerned.

With regards to Australia and New Zealand:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-19/new-zealand-tightens-immigration-rules-in-kiwi-first-crackdown/8453562

http://www.sbs.com.au/yourlanguage/punjabi/en/article/2017/04/19/want-migrate-australia-new-occupation-list-replaces-sol-skilled-occupation-list
The news you have given about australia does not mention that aus has tighten their rules. This news is about subclass 457 and 435. There is nothing about subclass 189 and 190. Changing occupations list does not mean doors are closed.

Canada is also changing rules in support for french speakers international students etc. This does not mean closed doors. Tightening or changing of rules are norm.
 

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fatani said:
The news you have given about australia does not mention that aus has tighten their rules. This news is about subclass 457 and 435. There is nothing about subclass 189 and 190. Changing occupations list does not mean doors are closed.

Canada is also changing rules in support for french speakers international students etc. This does not mean closed doors. Tightening or changing of rules are norm.
Yes, even that idiot Trump is planning to bring a point based system like Canada and Australia. Australia is also focusing on bringing more skilled workers through subclass 189.

I don't think they are closing doors. They are just reviewing the old immigration system so as to bring more skilled talents in the country.
 

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Bloodrose said:
And California is twice the size of the United Kingdom.

A lot of the UK's overpopulation problems are due to its own infrastructural mistakes. London should look something like Tokyo or Singapore by now, with huge apartment buildings and skyscrapers everywhere but it doesn't. Most of London's population live in old Victorian houses and hence a lot of land is wasted. To a lesser degree, the same applies to many of the UK's other urban centres e.g. Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham, Edinburgh etc. Those are fixable problems for sure but they really need to be fixed before Britain's population further expands.
We'll have to agree to disagree. Looking at what I see happening politically in both the US and the UK, I'd need to see some actual data, and/or research that actually suggests that the amount of land space cannot support the amount of human beings living in the UK. Especially since there are more densely populated places around the world.

I may not have spent the amount of time you have in the UK, but I've been there many times and seen large amounts of open space outside of the urban centers. I can't tell about the infrastructure in terms of the healthcare system, etc... because I haven't done the research. Some people would say that NYC is overpopulated, but I would disagree with that as well. A country with such a small population, would need info to back that up, and not one off political commentators saying "we're overpopulated, shut the gates." I might take India or China at face value, when you have a 1 billion+ population
 

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Maverick28 said:
Yes, even that idiot Trump is planning to bring a point based system like Canada and Australia. Australia is also focusing on bringing more skilled workers through subclass 189.

I don't think they are closing doors. They are just reviewing the old immigration system so as to bring more skilled talents in the country.
I don't know what our new system may look like, but I can tell that out of the countries we've named, I feel like the US system is the most difficult to navigate, and the least transparent. I seriously doubt the US has anything like Canada does with a screen showing the status of your app, gcms notes, etc... I think it should be more transparent for people who want to come the US, but I don't have specifics, I've never tried immigrating here :p
 

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Mthornt said:
I don't know what our new system may look like, but I can tell that out of the countries we've named, I feel like the US system is the most difficult to navigate, and the least transparent. I seriously doubt the US has anything like Canada does with a screen showing the status of your app, gcms notes, etc... I think it should be more transparent for people who want to come the US, but I don't have specifics, I've never tried immigrating here :p
I tried it. I studied there for 2 years and worked for 2 years and then had to leave because of the stupid lottery system for H1B.
 

fatani

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Canada's population is not 3.5 million.
Sorry i meant 35 million.

Fact is that the population growth is just 1% and yearly immigration target contribute two-thirds of that 1%. Only 1-3rd population growth in canada. And I am not saying it canadian govt statstics agency STATSTICS CANADA is saying. Because of low birth rate of 1.6 child a family.

And it is said that in 2031 if this growth rate continues immigration will contribute to 80% of the population growth.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/02/08/canadas-fertility-rate-continues-to-put-pressure-on-immigration.html

Look at this news for reference^.

And last yr before the immigration target announcement "THE GOVT OF CANADA'S" advisory council on economic growth I repeat not me "THE GOVT OF CANADA'S advisory council on economic growth urged the immigration minister to increase the target of immigration gradually to 450K per year in next 5 yrs.

And even the immigration miniater at that time McCullum agreed that canada want more immigration and in future we can see higher number of immigration target if not 450K but still would be more than now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/31/canada-immigration-quota-2017

Look at this link^

McCullam stated " I do believe it is true that more immigrants for Canada would be a good policy for demographic reasons,” McCallum told reporters.

An economic advisory council to finance minister Bill Morneau recently recommended that Canada increase its annual immigration target to 450,000 over the next five years to attract top talent to Canadian companies.

“That number is a conceivable number for some date in the future, but certainly not for 2017,” said McCallum, who noted he agreed with the spirit of the recommendations.

Look at this McCullum clearly said that this number is conceivable in future and agreeing to it. So whom so ever is thinking that canada will cut its target or close the door is day dreaming.
 

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I've been seeing lately a few people on this forum complaining, saying that Canada is not that nice, it doesn't have that many jobs... people saying one should only try moving to Canada if one have nothing to lose and so on... I've been trying to understand that because it doesn't make sense to me.

I was able to see that in general, those people saying that, are the ones that maybe applied for immigration from their home country with high expectations on getting a job fast, as someone said here "have employers waiting for them at the airport". People are moving to a new country, where they have ZERO connections, and expect to find a job in a week (btw, that guy that got a job in a week had the skills, but c'mon... that was also luck! lol).

Anyways, the canadian job market is mostly networking: you need to know people in order to get a nice job.

I came from a developing country and I moved to Canada to study. Having a post-grad diploma in my home country is a huge deal for a person. But here in Canada, it's not. Everyone has one or more. People here in general study much much more than people in my home country - and I bet Brazil is not alone in this one.

That means if you want to have a nice job in Canada, you gotta study, perfect your English skills and your technical skills according to your field. And meet people - lots of people.
 

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cmoncanada said:
I've been seeing lately a few people on this forum complaining, saying that Canada is not that nice, it doesn't have that many jobs... people saying one should only try moving to Canada if one have nothing to lose and so on... I've been trying to understand that because it doesn't make sense to me.

I was able to see that in general, those people saying that, are the ones that maybe applied for immigration from their home country with high expectations on getting a job fast, as someone said here "have employers waiting for them at the airport". People are moving to a new country, where they have ZERO connections, and expect to find a job in a week (btw, that guy that got a job in a week had the skills, but c'mon... that was also luck! lol).

Anyways, the canadian job market is mostly networking: you need to know people in order to get a nice job.

I came from a developing country and I moved to Canada to study. Having a post-grad diploma in my home country is a huge deal for a person. But here in Canada, it's not. Everyone has one or more. People here in general study much much more than people in my home country - and I bet Brazil is not alone in this one.

That means if you want to have a nice job in Canada, you gotta study, perfect your English skills and your technical skills according to your field. And meet people - lots of people.
That's what I was trying to say, mate.

I said that SKILLS are required which are suitable for Canadian labour market. And, you just answered it pertinently. :) (Skills = English, education, work experience, communication, etc. Isn't it?! ;))
 

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jpv2212 said:
That's what I was trying to say, mate.

I said that SKILLS are required which are suitable for Canadian labour market. And, you just answered it pertinently. :) (Skills = English, education, work experience, communication, etc. Isn't it?! ;))
Totally.
 

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cmoncanada said:
:)

BTW, I'd like to know how much time did it take to update your BG check from 'Not Applicable' to 'In Progress'?
Mine says 'Not applicable' at present.
 

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jpv2212 said:
:)

BTW, I'd like to know how much time did it take to update your BG check from 'Not Applicable' to 'In Progress'?
Mine says 'Not applicable' at present.
I'm not able to tell you precisely... I'm doing my process with a lawyer and I asked for status this week and saw that the BG check was in progress. So not sure if changed right after the meds passed or later.