37th Draw// June 29, 2016 // 482 points // 773 Invites

[aircanada]

Let's wait for the mid-year report...that will paint a clearer picture of how many people are waiting per score band.
To say that 2,000 people are waiting in the 480 range kinda discourages everyone below that mark, and that's pretty much most of the forumers here.

For me, it's kinda nerve-wrecking to read every two weeks that the cut off is not coming down at all, but despite that, I'm still hopeful that it will come down - of the 12 remaining draws this year, there has to be one that goes to that level! hehe

Because if 480 is indeed the new 450 cut off; CIC might as well restrict the requirements of creating an EE profile. That way it weeds out all the scores below that and saves everyone's time from being worried or frustrated.

Sorry to hear that but whether you're discouraged by what we say has no impact on anything realistically. There's still nothing to do but wait - or just find a way to improve your scores. My reasoning is simple: 481 points is single people in their 20s, with masters, good English, no French, no Canadian experience, 3 years of foreign experience. All these are really straightforward qualifications to have and the fact that scores have gone no lower than 482 shows that there's a bottleneck at 481. It's been so long since the scores haven't gone down to 481 and below, by the time they decide to invite the 481ers (they have to invite everyone at that mark, one of the posters above missed that point), it will have to be a massive sized draw.
And I don't expect to see a massive sized draw because people just don't want to increase their workload by that much.

 

[karenv]

Sorry to hear that but whether you're discouraged by what we say has no impact on anything realistically. There's still nothing to do but wait - or just find a way to improve your scores. My reasoning is simple: 481 points is single people in their 20s, with masters, good English, no French, no Canadian experience, 3 years of foreign experience. All these are really straightforward qualifications to have and there's a reason why scores have gone no lower than 482 shows that there's a bottleneck at 482. It's been so long that by the time they decide to invite the 481ers (they have to invite everyone at that mark, one of the posters above missed that point), it will have to be a massive sized draw. And I don't expect to see a massive sized draw because people just don't want to increase their workload by that much.

Totally agree with you. The profile also can be for international student in Canada with a master degree, single in their 20s, perfect English, no French and 2 years of Canadian experience. They can get 484.

Or international student in Canada with bachelor and another certificate, single in their 20s, perfect English, no French and 3 years of Canadian experience. They can get 488

Or international student in Canada with a master degree, one year of experience in their own country, one year of experience in Canada, perfect English, no French. They can get over 500

I saw many students from India and China that have these profiles. They just need to work on their English and normally, it won't take them long (many be a year or so) to get perfect English score.

Many people with the above profiles are in Canada right now. When they finish two or three years work, they will apply for EE and hence, the CRS score will be above 480 in future.

 

[CBTSHARE]

so what if you are in Canada 10 years, completed a degree, working over 4years, age 34 and 10 years foreign work experience and have 475 points, you're screwed?

 

[dell2]

so what if you are in Canada 10 years, completed a degree, working over 4years, age 34 and 10 years foreign work experience and have 475 points, you're screwed?

Right on, Welcome to Canada Immigration

 

[Heathcliff77]

so what if you are in Canada 10 years, completed a degree, working over 4years, age 34 and 10 years foreign work experience and have 475 points, you're screwed?

That's just unfair

 

[karenv]

so what if you are in Canada 10 years, completed a degree, working over 4years, age 34 and 10 years foreign work experience and have 475 points, you're screwed?

I fully understood your frustration. I was lucky that I got PR before the change. When I applied EE on Jan 5, 2015, I got only 450+ since I am married and over 32 years old with 7.5 IELTS.

However, moving forward, more and more people figure out how to get higher score. I saw in other posts that some applicants did not declare their one year foreign work experience in their study permit applications but they did it now because it will give them more points up to 497. That's why the CRS was kept above 480 unless CIC increases the number of invitations.

 

[princesohal2003]

I don't get how some people are supporting the decision of keeping 480+points because it's fair. People are saying how it's achievable if you graduate from Canada and have 3 years of experience blah blah. Job market is tough these days and you only get 3 years of work permit to begin with. I used up first 8-10 months of my work permit building up experience and working contract job. It was extremely tough landing a permanent job for me but after all that hassle I've finally managed to work a year and a half at an noc b position and achieved 464 points. Now i have another headache of paying for lmia to compete with rich kids obtaining their points that cec requires. Ugghhh these draws are nothing but a frustration.

 

[CBTSHARE]

I fully understood your frustration. I was lucky that I got PR before the change. When I applied EE on Jan 5, 2015, I got only 450+ since I am married and over 32 years old with 7.5 IELTS.

However, moving forward, more and more people figure out how to get higher score. I saw in other posts that some applicants did not declare their one year foreign work experience in their study permit applications but they did it now because it will give them more points up to 497. That's why the CRS was kept above 480 unless CIC increases the number of invitations.

I did the IELTS and have 8.0, I got accepted previously this year, but my application was cancelled as incomplete because I did not have a police record from my home country(this was so stupid, they could have just asked me to get it) now I have to do a new application and the scores seem to be on an upward average trend.Does any work experience count or just experience working in one field similar to my NOC category, I am applying under CEC.

 

[kushagra452]

CRS 459....still waiting :-X

 

[JALT]

so what if you are in Canada 10 years, completed a degree, working over 4years, age 34 and 10 years foreign work experience and have 475 points, you're screwed?

Yeah I hear you - I'm English native tongue, no French, Masters degree, 7.5 years professional foreign work experience, close to the end of my Canadian PhD..... but I'm a dinosaur (apparently) at 40 yrs old - I have 415 points and dropping with every happy birthday! Seems Express Entry is not designed for me :-X

 

[karenv]

I did the IELTS and have 8.0, I got accepted previously this year, but my application was cancelled as incomplete because I did not have a police record from my home country(this was so stupid, they could have just asked me to get it) now I have to do a new application and the scores seem to be on an upward average trend.Does any work experience count or just experience working in one field similar to my NOC category, I am applying under CEC.

I think any work experience in O, A, B and you must have reference letter for it if you want to have points.

 

[siriusnick]

I think any work experience in O, A, B and you must have reference letter for it if you want to have points.

You don't need any documents to get the point and enter the pool, just what you are claiming.

 

[LokiJr01]

Yeah I hear you - I'm English native tongue, no French, Masters degree, 7.5 years professional foreign work experience, close to the end of my Canadian PhD..... but I'm a dinosaur (apparently) at 40 yrs old - I have 415 points and dropping with every happy birthday! Seems Express Entry is not designed for me :-X

I'm sorry to hear that You seem to be very skilled and would be a great contribution to their economy. It sucks that the points system factors in age

 

[kateg]

I'm sorry to hear that You seem to be very skilled and would be a great contribution to their economy. It sucks that the points system factors in age

It's a very good thing that it does. Younger people have more children, and also work more years before retirement.

Someone close to retirement will pay little in taxes, but use lots of healthcare. Someone young will use much less healthcare, and over a lifetime pay much more in taxes.

 

[faithandhope]

Everyone here is speculating without any official reasons to support their claim. I would advise others (below480) to be positive. Wait for the CIC report.