2021-2022 Online Applicants

[eidref_eidref]

Oh thank you, again.

I hope I'm wrong but it's seems so. So far anyone who has contacted ircc has been referred to the 27 months processing time. I'll give it till the end of the month to see the reply to @wksj gcms that asks what's their plan for online applications this year. If no reply by then I'll ask https://www.cicnews.com/author/shelby?_gl=1*1n7o4iv*_ga*YW1wLVdnLVZLUDhpSmtqbkpUSHRIdURVNHNWQ1NfUERKT19WOFNkV3luVWpneVhsVHBienJvanBXX0VNaTFXdS1TYkc.#gs.8tfma4 to make a news story about it where they directly ask the minister of immigration and ircc to state on public records their reasons for asking us to apply online and then not attending to it at all.

Timeline-wise it is YMMV - no two people's timeline may move at the same/similar speeds. Language, Physical Presence, and Prohibitions will update simultaneously (in most cases) within many weeks from test completion. 1 month isn't too long; took my statuses about 3 months to update. Some applications will move faster, some slower than that. Not to worry, if something is amiss, IRCC will reach out. Else, no news is good news

Hello again,

I just had my Oath Taking earlier today. I will be transferring to a new place, Is there a request for the Citizenship Certificate to be delivered to my work address? Or request them to send this to my new address?

Thank you.

 

[ms-nobody]

Ghost update one!

 

[ms-nobody]

Ghost update one!

Background check completed!

 

[degm]

Ok so maybe I've whined too much on this forum and I'm being punished, but I haven't seen any updates on my application since AOR on Feb 11. Other people with a later AOR have already seen some updates or at least ghost updates. I wonder what makes some online applications move faster than others?

 

[trumprefugee]

Ok so maybe I've whined too much on this forum and I'm being punished, but I haven't seen any updates on my application since AOR on Feb 11. Other people with a later AOR have already seen some updates or at least ghost updates. I wonder what makes some online applications move faster than others?

I'm wondering this as well (both why some online applications move faster than others and if I'm being punished for whining too much on this forum!)

I know that background and name checks being stalled can be a big factor. I don't see any evidence of issues with my background checks in my GCMS notes and I was never asked to send fingerprints.

I'm thinking perhaps it has to do with how much travel we have done. I have read that IRCC can do investigations on our physical presence if they have any doubt and it might not even show up in GCMS notes. I made 3 trips to the US since coming to Canada. But I have seen others who didn't travel at all and/or had way more physical presence days and are even more delayed.

But something I haven't seen discussed but that I think might influence citizenship application processing speed is what class of PR we are.
I have heard that refugee PR applications tend to be processed more slowly as they are the most unfavorable class, with the most restrictions and least stable status - they can lose PR status if they travel back home or even use their home country passports to visit other countries!
PNPs seem to be 2nd from the bottom in terms of rights and status, in being confined to one province. I am PNP so thinking maybe that's one reason for the delays in my application.
Spousal sponsorship PRs probably can't divorce their spouses before citizenship without facing scrutiny and delays - not sure if there would be delays if they are still married to their sponsoring spouses.
FSW EE immigrants probably have the fewest restrictions (only can't move to Quebec and this prohibition is probably the least strongly enforced) and might be processed most quickly, assuming they stayed outside Quebec?
Would love to see more data to see how much truth there is to these suspicions of mine.

 

[degm]

I'm wondering this as well (both why some online applications move faster than others and if I'm being punished for whining too much on this forum!)

I know that background and name checks being stalled can be a big factor. I don't see any evidence of issues with my background checks in my GCMS notes and I was never asked to send fingerprints.

I'm thinking perhaps it has to do with how much travel we have done. I have read that IRCC can do investigations on our physical presence if they have any doubt and it might not even show up in GCMS notes. I made 3 trips to the US since coming to Canada. But I have seen others who didn't travel at all and/or had way more physical presence days and are even more delayed.

But something I haven't seen discussed but that I think might influence citizenship application processing speed is what class of PR we are.
I have heard that refugee PR applications tend to be processed more slowly as they are the most unfavorable class, with the most restrictions and least stable status - they can lose PR status if they travel back home or even use their home country passports to visit other countries!
PNPs seem to be 2nd from the bottom in terms of rights and status, in being confined to one province. I am PNP so thinking maybe that's one reason for the delays in my application.
Spousal sponsorship PRs probably can't divorce their spouses before citizenship without facing scrutiny and delays - not sure if there would be delays if they are still married to their sponsoring spouses.
FSW EE immigrants probably have the fewest restrictions (only can't move to Quebec and this prohibition is probably the least strongly enforced) and might be processed most quickly, assuming they stayed outside Quebec?
Would love to see more data to see how much truth there is to these suspicions of mine.

These are very interesting theories, however I doubt we'll ever have an answer due to data privacy/national security concerns. I can see myself checking a couple of boxes from the situations you just described, but I guess our only option is to exercise patience. Oh well...

 

[trumprefugee]

These are very interesting theories, however I doubt we'll ever have an answer due to data privacy/national security concerns. I can see myself checking a couple of boxes from the situations you just described, but I guess our only option is to exercise patience. Oh well...

I think we should add a column in our trackers here to indicate what class of PR each of us is. I think that would be the best way to get more info.

But yes, I don't think any of this kind of data will be coming from IRCC. After all, Canada needs immigrants, so they want to make it appealing for us to come as PRs and make us believe that we will get citizenship in 3 years (which is true for those with the desired profiles who applied for at the perfect time, i.e., the early 2022 paper citizenship applicants getting done in 4 months). Canada wants us to stay PRs as long as possible because they don't want refugees to travel home, they don't want PNP folks to move out of province, they don't want spouses to divorce, etc. But they don't want to publicize these negatives, or fewer people would immigrate, so they have to dangle the reward of citizenship as a marketing and recruiting tactic.

 

[Abdelilah]

Hi online applicants, my timeline :

Type: Online application
Location: Calgary
Physical Presence Days: 1200
Application: Single
Application submitted: June 1, 2022
Delivered: June 01, 2022
AOR: June 10, 2022
In progress : June 13, 2022

No update since then (while paper based applications are flying).

 

[ms-nobody]

Hi online applicants, my timeline :

Type: Online application
Location: Calgary
Physical Presence Days: 1200
Application: Single
Application submitted: June 1, 2022
Delivered: June 01, 2022
AOR: June 10, 2022
In progress : June 13, 2022

No update since then (while paper based applications are flying).

well is little too early for your timeline to be edgy, I am November applicant and just passed my background check, have some patience buddy

 

[Abdelilah]

well is little too early for your timeline to be edgy, I am November applicant and just passed my background check, have some patience buddy

I can guarantee you it's not the lack of patience, it's the lack of fairness that rages me, it's the lack of common sense from the IRCC side, I mean why on earth they implement this policy of fast processing paper based applications while letting the online ones dry out, I wouldn't mind if processing times were the same, if online applications were as slow as paper based I wouldn't mind at all, it would have been the same treatment for everyone.

If IRCC put a disclaimer stating that online applications will get the snail slow treatment I would have either picked the paper based or take the online path with a fully though decision, instead it's yet again a lottery with people's lives.

I mean who would have thought that the online paper based applications would turn into such a dead lock, again it's not edginess, it's anger for being yet again put in another random lottery.

 

[Abdelilah]

The only solution is to let CBC know. Once the journalists make a news report on the inconsistencies, IRCC will be forced to explain themselves.

Some applicants did and magically got their files processed within a couple of weeks.

 

[RickyT]

It's such a stupid process, they just need to STOP accepting and processing Paper applications and process Online only. Until that is done, it will always be a long backlog. There is NO REASON why I should have to wait 27 MONTHS while a paper applicant gets processed in a few months.

Paper applications are such a longer processing process for the agent working on them, it's so manual. Someone needs to manually check every single page which takes time....online is so much quicker and easier

 

[trumprefugee]

It's such a stupid process, they just need to STOP accepting and processing Paper applications and process Online only. Until that is done, it will always be a long backlog. There is NO REASON why I should have to wait 27 MONTHS while a paper applicant gets processed in a few months.

Paper applications are such a longer processing process for the agent working on them, it's so manual. Someone needs to manually check every single page which takes time....online is so much quicker and easier

They should just have longer timelines for paper applications and process them separately, like they do for PR applications. Online Express Entry has the 6 month timeline, while paper applications a year and a half or more.

 

[degm]

Hi y'all. Got an update today:

App sent: Dec 6th
AOR: Feb 11th
Test invite: August 23rd (window: September 23rd to October 13th)
Location: Montreal

Everything else is IP, including BGC so I guess I'm one of the cases were BCG comes after test invite.

 

[Amin7490]

is there anyone withdrawn their online application and submit new paper application ?