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Is understating hours worked on the paycheck after negotiating with the employer a common practice among intl students? As an example, the employer can state the number of hours as 20 instead of 40 on the paycheck and double the hourly rate, effectively working around the 20 hrs/wk limit.

What are the risks involved and how are such cases verified in the review process when applying for a PGWP?
 

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Is understating hours worked on the paycheck after negotiating with the employer a common practice among intl students? As an example, the employer can state the number of hours as 20 instead of 40 on the paycheck and double the hourly rate, effectively working around the 20 hrs/wk limit.

What are the risks involved and how are such cases verified in the review process when applying for a PGWP?
That’s fraud

You came to the wrong place if you’re asking on how to commit fraud
 

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Not committing fraud, I know it's illegal. Just curious how common this is and how such violations would be detected by the IRCC.
 

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Not committing fraud, I know it's illegal. Just curious how common this is and how such violations would be detected by the IRCC.
For minimum wage jobs, doubling the per hour wage is suspicious enough. For skilled professional work, the company would probably be better to apply for LMIA than to pay the employee a higher wage than the median for such position (assuming the company cannot find any citizen/PR to do the job).

IMHO, it's a no-brainer to detect if the salary is a fraud or not.
 
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Not committing fraud, I know it's illegal. Just curious how common this is and how such violations would be detected by the IRCC.
It would be obviously through CRA records.
 

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I am curious why a legitimate company would resort to such fraud for the sake of a part-time employee who is not even a permanent resident?
 

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I am curious why a legitimate company would resort to such fraud for the sake of a part-time employee who is not even a permanent resident?
Companies can hire such employees on a lower hourly rate (perhaps even lower than the minimum wage since they're able to state 2x the actual rate on the record).
 

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Companies can hire such employees on a lower hourly rate (perhaps even lower than the minimum wage since they're able to state 2x the actual rate on the record).
So that company is committing fraud twice: first, by paying the employee lower than the legislated minimum wage, and second by declaring only half of the actual working hours. That doesn't sound legit to me.
 

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So that company is committing fraud twice: first, by paying the employee lower than the legislated minimum wage, and second by declaring only half of the actual working hours. That doesn't sound legit to me.
Yep, you nailed it right! There are two bad actors here though - Employers and workers. A student worker doing this for less than legal hourly pay would eventually harm the market by denying the legal pay to someone else.
 
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Yep, you nailed it right! There are two bad actors here though - Employers and workers. A student worker doing this for less than legal hourly pay would eventually harm the market by denying the legal pay to someone else.
It doesn't make any sense, either, for somebody to accept below minimum wage and then work longer hours to compensate.
 

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Not committing fraud, I know it's illegal. Just curious how common this is and how such violations would be detected by the IRCC.
Bud

Here’s the definition of fraud

You can dress up a pig in a skirt & put lipstick on it , but it’s still a pig

Smarten up
It’s fraud


“fraud
/frôd/

noun
  1. wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
    "he was convicted of fraud “

 

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International students are no longer limited to 20 hrs/he until the end of the year so there shouldn’t be any issues when it comes to stating actual work hours and pay.